"I Admired Hitler" - Schwarzenegger

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journalistic ethics

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the depth of his depravity sickens me.
-- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt

[bendywendy 0]

Without agreeing with someone or something you can still admire the fact that they pulled something off and I think as usual, the comments were probably taken out of context.

If you study history at first some of the things Hitler did were pretty good - that's how he started to suck in a nation. Then he warped it all and became a blood sucking evil tyrant bent on genocide and trying to take over the world. It was horrible but how the hell did he manage to do it? We need someone with his leadership skills who is bent on good instead of evil - don't anyone dare take that out of context and try to imply that I mean we need a Hitler!

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In case you run for office on a republican ticket, the story would read...

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If you study history at first some of the things Hitler did were pretty good...We need someone with his leadership skills...


[Blah Blah Blah]


[last line of news story]
don't anyone dare take that out of context and try to imply that I mean we need a Hitler!

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the depth of his depravity sickens me.
-- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt

[skydyvr 0]

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Exactly! The left wing liberal media never printed anything negative about Clinton, Carter, any of the Kennedys . . . Heck, the only place you saw anything at all about the Lewinsky scandal and Whitewater was on the Rush Limbaugh show.

Sure, the LWLM did occasionally mention Lewinsky, but only in pointing out how silly it was to persecute and impeach over a silly little sex scandal.

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[bendywendy 0]

thanks - I knew someone would do that to me. Good thing I'm never going to do anything in politics - they would have such a field day digging up dirt on me - it would be very entertaining, though.

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Sorry, I couldn't resist. It's really unfortunate that people want to make something of nothing. It's the reason I and many others have no desire to run for office. Oddly enough, I'm not sure how well JFK, Roosevelt (appearance), etc would fair in light of the today's media attention (assuming they didn't turn the other cheek).

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the depth of his depravity sickens me.
-- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt

[mnischalke 0]

Sorry you're so bent over this. Guess you don't know much about European history during Hitler's rule.

Here's the thing: Could Germans and Germans alone have conquered the incredible portion of Europe, North Africa and to Asia's doorstep, which they held comfortably prior to the US entry into WWII? Simply: NO Fact: The Waffen SS was predominantly comprised of NON-GERMANS at war's end. READ: Of 550-600,000 members of the Waffen SS, the majority were not German (or at least of pure German bloodlines, living in Germany at the start of the war). There were two divisions of French SS. There were also Russian, Dutch, Italian, Hungarian, Belgian, Norwegian, Bosnian Muslim, Ukranian, Indians, Danish and even a small British Division, called the British Free Corps, which was little more than propaganda value. Realize the fact that a huge portion of Europe was Fascist and those people were drawn to Nazism like bees to honey. There were even lots of Americans who just dug the shit out of Nazism. Hell, Joe Kennedy, Sr. (funny, I just changed a few parameters of your google search for him) was a Nazi and an anti-Semite, although now they just call him a Nazi sympathizer.

I got a photo in a book which shows streets of Austria lined with Austrians as young as five welcoming the German troops with hand salutes and waiving the bent cross.

Was Hitler a genius? Maybe. I personally think that Heinrich Himmler was the real genius, as he was able to recruit sooooo many non-Germans in a near total rout of Europe. Well, until we got involved. Hmmm. Not many folks minded when we stuck our nose in that one...

mike

Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills.

[Kramer 0]

Sorta sad that this guy will be the next Governor of Cali.

-Kramer

The FAKE KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!

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Who give a shit?

......hey I heard George washington use to abuse his female slaves.....and look what he did for the USA.......Good thing CNN wasnt around then... hemay never had gottento cross the Delaware!!

jason

Freedom of speech includes volume

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Sorta sad that this guy will be the next Governor of Cali.

Who would you support? Davis is a total failure. He's a freakin vending machine for the highest bidders. These bidders have caused the insurance problems, skyrocketing costs for workmans comp, and now licensing for illegal immigrants.

Bustamante wants to raise taxes again..on the heels of a 300% VLF increase.

McClintock is too inflexible at this time to work with the legislature.

Schwarzeneggar is no dummy and I think its funny how a lot of people are underestimating him. He's been in touch with the political environment since he started dating Maria Shriver, he does outstanding support programs for the special olympics and children's physical health.

...oh...you're in Indiana... Nevermind...

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[billvon 3,111]

>Sure, the LWLM did occasionally mention Lewinsky, but only in pointing
> out how silly it was to persecute and impeach over a silly little sex scandal.

From the CNN search engine:

Lewinsky: Relationship with Clinton was mutual (03.01.2002)
Independent counsel wants to meet with Monica Lewinsky (12.04.2000)
Independent Counsel contacting potential witnesses in final phase of Lewinsky investigation (12.01.2000)
Grand jury probing Clinton-Lewinsky scandal, sources reveal (08.17.2000)
Former Starr spokesman faces trial for leaks during Lewinsky investigation (07.06.2000)
Linda Tripp wiretapping trial moves forward, but judge limits Monica Lewinsky testimony (05.06.2000)
White House given disk containing Lewinsky emails that were thought missing (03.29.2000)
Clinton regretful for misleading Americans over Lewinsky scandal (01.26.2000)
Lewinsky testifies in Tripp wiretap hearing (12.16.1999)
Lewinsky to testify in Tripp wiretap case (12.15.1999)
McDougal lawyers want Monica Lewinsky to testify at trial (03.06.1999)
Poll Public remains unsympathetic to Lewinsky (03.05.1999)

Try again my right wing friend!

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Let me experiment on something, what was your search parameter?

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[billvon 3,111]

>He's been in touch with the political environment since he started dating
> Maria Shriver . . .

Wait a minute. He's a good choice because his significant other is really savvy? Hmm. If that works, you'll have to let me do the surgery on you if you ever need orthopedic work . .

> he does outstanding support programs for the special olympics and children's physical health.

Yep, he said that. "I'm very much for families, I'm very much for children and children's issues, and all that stuff." Can't argue with that.

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Wait a minute. He's a good choice because his significant other is really savvy? Hmm. If that works, you'll have to let me do the surgery on you if you ever need orthopedic work

Now bill, don't be silly. Nobody is going to ask you to operate on them until AFTER you and Amy get fully and legally hitched. Everybody knows that only a state approved hetrosexual marriage can transfer knowledge from one person to another.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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>He's been in touch with the political environment since he started dating
> Maria Shriver . . .

Wait a minute. He's a good choice because his significant other is really savvy? Hmm. If that works, you'll have to let me do the surgery on you if you ever need orthopedic work . .

Oh jeez don't take it to that extreme, "soft" skills such as politics can be learned quite effectively in a variety of environments, weather sitting at the dinner table with Kennedy's or being an activist for Prop 49. The presence of that resource, in a political race is impossible to ignore (especially with a Tier 1 journalist for a spouse). Politics typically fails in a technocratic environment (Carter's administration is one example) and the executive leadership must provide the framework, to achieving an identified goal. "Hard" skills such as performing surgery require a structured learning environment.

> he does outstanding support programs for the special olympics and children's physical health.

Yep, he said that. "I'm very much for families, I'm very much for children and children's issues, and all that stuff." Can't argue with that.

[Zlew 0]

I Love Cali...I really do...but there are some major Left wing nutts out there....and you know what, I think this whole thing is going to be funny. Let the far left run your state into the ground.....and I think the state will get whatever it diserves, be it an actor, or another liberal....or someone who will fix things.

But the idea that the state that is so left wing finally got fed up with how badly the Liberals fucked up their world that there is a real chance that a Republican actor who is known around the world for "I'll be back" , " you boots, your jacket, and your motercycle.... Give them to me now!" just absolutly cracks me up.
good luck to all of u!
Z

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And on the flip side . . . just to show a bit of actual "fair and balanced" reporting . . . I bring you THIS news clip from the same ABC News organization that brought you the first one. (And I'll admit it's originally from The Christian Science Monitor, but hey, ABC should get credit for also running it -- right?)

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/World/arnold030928_csm.html

This is about as Pro-Schwarzenegger as it comes on the topics discussed so far in this thread.

I could show some more inflammatory stuff I found (trust me, it's a hell of a lot worse than anything you've read here so far and it's -way- biased and not backed up at all -- Ok HERE it is for the morbidly curious), but I think this is about it for me tonight. I mean, there's no freekin' way I'd go THAT far.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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......hey I heard George washington use to abuse his female slaves.....

You favor slave-abuse? Can I misquote you on that at a later date?

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>He's been in touch with the political environment since he started dating
> Maria Shriver . . .

Wait a minute. He's a good choice because his significant other is really savvy? Hmm. If that works, you'll have to let me do the surgery on you if you ever need orthopedic work . .

There is a large difference between politics and surgery. Personally, I can't do surgery, but I could call my brother-in-law the city councilman. Politics is obviously easier to do. I would say that having a Kennedy relative for a wife would be an incredible help in running for office.

[bodypilot90 0]

Please don't pass on racist crap like this.

nuff said

[miked10270 0]

Getting back on track with Schwarzenegger (?) admiring hitler...

one of my uncles (a full blown card carrying communist complete with the "Morning Star" subscription and able to get his nephew a 3 week trip to the DDR (east Germany) in the 1970's) told me the tale of him actually attending one of the Nazi rallies where Hitler spoke. I can't remember if it was one of the Neurenburg rallies on somewhere else.

Now my uncle Tom obviously totally disagreed with Hitler, the man, his policies, his beliefs.

Yet he said that Hitler giving a speech was mesmerising, amazing and brilliant. simply by speaking he could bend people to his will controlling their emotions. Even my uncle Tom (who was like an athiest in a church at the rally found) himself chanting along with the crowd.

He said Hitler was a genius at this.

He said he really admired Hitler for his gift yet hated Hitler for how he used it.

In effect my committed communist relative said exactly what Schwartzenegger said... But he sure as hell wasn't a Nazi sympathiser.

Mike.

Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.

Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.

[feuergnom 29]

just one word: bollocks. complete & utter bullshit

and if YOu personally judge a person for what his ancestors did, u ae damn near fascism yourself.
but americans were always quite good in breaking everything down to a blck&white point of view. this just pisses me off once more

The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle

dudeist skydiver # 666

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I could show some more inflammatory stuff I found (trust me, it's a hell of a lot worse than anything you've read here so far and it's -way- biased and not backed up at all -- Ok HERE it is for the morbidly curious), but I think this is about it for me tonight. I mean, there's no freekin' way I'd go THAT far.

Noop...because that article is full of crap...
It mentions Ahnulds father taking part in 'Kirstalnacht' and him being in one of the worst sectiones of the nazi troops, while in fact he was just a simple village police-officer, in service of the nazi's.

What many people seem to forget was that back then, a lot of people didn't have a choice...it was join or die....

I'm not trying to say his daddy was a nice guy (he always called arnold a sissy and a loser, and never liked his son or the other way around...that's why ahnuld took to wieghtlifting in the first place)

But damn...I realy can't believe a lot of people's dumbwitted belief in newsarticles...

Just look at the facts and form your own opinion instead of just eating the judgment the media is feeding you....

JC
FlyLikeBrick
I'm an Athlete?

[miked10270 0]

One small question...

Will you be voting for Arnie or for his father?

Remember how things were in Germany & Austria at the time of hitlers power. Membership of the NSDAP was in effect a neccessity for a career. You could liken it to membership of the CPSU in communist Russia. If you wanted a decent job & a career then you gotta be a member.

Just a thought.

Mike.

Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable.

Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode.

[feuergnom 29]

sometimes i'm not sure if you are a troll or not. IMO – in this case you are

(even if you are a greenie)

The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle

dudeist skydiver # 666