livendive 8 #1 October 10, 2003 Nuke the state department! http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/10/09/robertson.state/index.html Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #2 October 10, 2003 Did you even read this article? Note that the article doesn't mention Mr. Mowbray's arguments at all - only Mr. Robertson's allusion to a nuclear device thrown into Foggy Bottom. One wonders how this can be called news when no background on Mr. Mowbray's argument is considered relevant. If the State department spokesman had responded to some of the arguments in Mowbray's book, he might have been impressive. I seriously doubt that he did so - but we'd never know from this lovely unbiased and objective[sic] CNN article, would we? Contrast this with their coverage of, let's say, the NEA, NAACP, or AFL-CIO and any statements of any of those groups and you'll see why many of us love FOX so much.Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #3 October 10, 2003 Neato. I don't even need to read the article. Thank golly those family values folks don't actually have nukes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdD 1 #4 October 10, 2003 Man, whenever I come home I always watch the 700 club, that show is friggin entertaining. I really like the ones where people call in and pray for the supreme court.Life is ez On the dz Every jumper's dream 3 rigs and an airstream Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #5 October 10, 2003 QuoteDid you even read this article? Note that the article doesn't mention Mr. Mowbray's arguments at all - only Mr. Robertson's allusion to a nuclear device thrown into Foggy Bottom. One wonders how this can be called news when no background on Mr. Mowbray's argument is considered relevant. If the State department spokesman had responded to some of the arguments in Mowbray's book, he might have been impressive. I seriously doubt that he did so - but we'd never know from this lovely unbiased and objective[sic] CNN article, would we? Contrast this with their coverage of, let's say, the NEA, NAACP, or AFL-CIO and any statements of any of those groups and you'll see why many of us love FOX so much. Which particular statement in the article are you claiming is untrue? Should be easy to verify.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #6 October 10, 2003 I never said the article was untrue. I inferred it wasn't newsworthy and devoid of intellectual material. The article is representative something I'd expect to see in a gossip column. Now if the article had addressed Mowbray's arguments and State's response to them, it would have been newsworthy. 'Christian Coalition uses Hyperbole to Describe Book's Theme' would have been a good title for the article given its content. The writers had specific intent with this article, and that was to embarass Pat Robertson and the Christian Coalition AND to possibly detract from the points Mowbray makes in his book.Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #7 October 10, 2003 QuoteI never said the article was untrue. I inferred it wasn't newsworthy and devoid of intellectual material. The article is representative something I'd expect to see in a gossip column. Like this? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,99413,00.html Are you saying Mr. Powell's folks are devoid of intelligence since they're the ones who thought it was newsworthy enough to have their spokesman comment on it to the media? QuoteNow if the article had addressed Mowbray's arguments and State's response to them, it would have been newsworthy. Yeah, cuz Fox news covered the problems Britney Spears poses to teenage girls? Quote'Christian Coalition uses Hyperbole to Describe Book's Theme' would have been a good title for the article given its content. The writers had specific intent with this article, and that was to embarass Pat Robertson and the Christian Coalition AND to possibly detract from the points Mowbray makes in his book. You are assuming it was hyperbole. 'Pat Robertson's "Nuke" Idea Draws Protest' seems more factually based and doesn't require the reporters make any assumptions as to Pat's intent. The actual words of the article describe state department reactions to the comments, thus making the title appropriate. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #8 October 10, 2003 Quick! Invade Christianity and disarm them! D'oh! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #9 October 10, 2003 The thoughts of your post are so unorganized I can't really respond to them in a contiguous manner. A few remarks, in no particular order: - If you choose to believe that Pat Robertson was actually suggesting detonation of a nuclear device inside of a building full of people here in the US - regardless of the folks inside the building - and meant it in a non-hyperbolic sense, believe that if you like. Just don't expect me to take you seriously. - Mr. Powell's spokesmen did respond to Pat Robertson's comments. Well they should have. I should be very disappointed in them if they didn't. Now if the CNN story had addressed any DoS response to Mr. Mowbray's book, I should have found it most interesting. - Mrs. Ehrlich's husband is a Republican. How about those Fox folks making a fool of her? Such left wing bias over there at Fox. The political stature of her husband makes this newsworthy - just like Mrs. Jeb Bush's failure to pay import duties a couple of years back. - Those of us who are familiar with Mr. Robertson and Mr. Mowbray find it fairly amazing a story focusing on this interview could be written in ANY real news setting without addressing a SINGLE POINT Mr. Mowbray makes in his book. Instead of addressing any of them, CNN chose to use a ludicrous use of hyperbole and make a story out of that. Yes yes, I know, you don't believe it was hyperbole, but that's your opinion and you are more than welcome to it. If you're not on drugs and actually believe that, God help you because I sure as hell can't. I think Ronnie is a clinical psychiatrist out in AZ now - PM him. I stand by my assertion as to CNN's intent with this article. Your description of the Fox article as one addressing the problems Britney Spears poses to young girls is completely incorrect on all counts. Reality is nice. Come back to it.Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #10 October 11, 2003 i'm sure that pat robertson got a fair shake on the fair and "we only report the facts, maam" cnn network. that's like having the egyptians report on how the jews were feeling in captivity."Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #11 October 11, 2003 Quote Like this? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,99413,00.html One difference. This story you linked is a AP feed. Not a Fox News publication.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
