lazyfrog 0 #1 October 22, 2003 just a little question, after liberating a middle east country from its dictator, when do you expect the poor guys which are down there in the sun to go home. IMO the country is even worse now, and NEVER will an occidental armed force bring peace there. Moreover US soldiers are NOT peace soldiers, they can FIGHT evil pretty well, but are in no manner bringers of peace. The BIG MOUSTACHE guy dissapeard, might be dead... But BIG BEARD guys are going to (or might) take his place and install an extreme islam power there... And that will be the beginning of big problems.---------- Fumer tue, péter pue ------------- ourson #10, Mosquito Uno, CBT 579 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tinfoil 0 #2 October 22, 2003 Some will return to the US shortly as a few international troops replace them I think. Has any country committed troops since the UN resolution? And I can't see Bush increasing the commitment anytime soon, would be fresh in voters minds, might decrease the number of troops though, just before elections. But I think US troops will be in Iraq and Afghanistan for MANY years. “- - Sumo is the greatest of sports. It has power, grace, speed and cluture. And most importantly, two fat bastards smacking the shit out of each other. ” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteH 0 #3 October 22, 2003 Quotethey can FIGHT evil pretty well, Then there was Gargamel, the evil wizard. He was bad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jib 0 #4 October 22, 2003 You can't just take out a leader and leave. When there is no governmental infrastructure left, you are inviting big bearded people, criminal enterprise and a return of a dictator/war lord. So, I don't understand what you're trying to say? If you're trying to say that France, Germany, et al, should be getting contracts to rebuild Iraq, that won't keep the bearded ones away. -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #5 October 22, 2003 Well... hate to be picky, but you never did take the leader out... just like you missed Usama... And the pre-emptive strike was not justified - as there are no WMD's. He's saying the US did a good job of invading, but are soldiers, not policemen. They are fucking up the job of policing. They are trained to kill, not keep peace, and no matter what they do, they piss off the locals and expose themselves in the process. So what's the plan? Under the Geneva convention - they are tasked as an occupying force to rebuild the infrastructure they have destroyed. Once they've done that - they should leave - but at a death a day - it's going to take a long time. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazyfrog 0 #6 October 22, 2003 Tonto got the meaning... and as there's always more attacks against US soldiers, suicides of US soldiers, false declarations of government and army, when is the US people going to react ?? I fully understand that nobody wants to leave a country after it looks like sh.t. Specially when there's loads of petrol. BUT... the human cost is now quite high... and unfortunately increasing every day---------- Fumer tue, péter pue ------------- ourson #10, Mosquito Uno, CBT 579 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tinfoil 0 #7 October 22, 2003 Looks like Donald Rumsfeld think's it will be a while. Rumsfeld Ponders War Progress in Memo - Report "It is pretty clear the coalition can win in Afghanistan and Iraq in one way or another, but it will be a long, hard task." “- - Sumo is the greatest of sports. It has power, grace, speed and cluture. And most importantly, two fat bastards smacking the shit out of each other. ” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #8 October 22, 2003 >when do you expect the poor guys which are down there in the sun to >go home. Five years? Ten? A long time, that's for sure. We've been in Afghanistan two years now, and things are getting worse there. It will take many times the number of troops we have there just to stop the fighting in the provinces, where the Taliban still make forays. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #9 October 22, 2003 When will the coalition forces withdraw? We seem to live in the age if instancy. instant coffee, instant heat, instant food, and now instant withdrawal after victory in instant war. Cast you mind back to 1945 and the defeat of Germany & Japan. In each of those cases it was about 3 years before there ceased to be an "army of occupation" and it was replaced with an army in occupation. This isn't hollywood. There won't be a solution that fits into 100 minutes. Expect 3+ years for the withdrawal. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflygoddess 0 #10 October 22, 2003 Well my exhubby will not be back from Bagdad until March 15th. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaoskitty 0 #11 October 22, 2003 What does not make sense to me is that the majority of units still in Iraq are reserve units. Most of the active duty guys/gals have gone home. I know that they all have a job to do, regardless. Just seems backwards. I have a couple of friends over there and they are bored to death. One of them wrote this article and took the photo: http://www.metropulse.com/dir_zine/dir_2003/1337/t_cover4.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
