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Godwin's Law as applied to Talkback

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>If this law is to hold, shouldn't this thread have ended with Billvon's first post?

Now you're getting it!



Ahh but alas, there seems to be an obsessive nature to this thread, thus perpetuating it. So, while I get it, and you get it, everyone sorta get's it.:S
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

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One of my fav logical fallacies is when people use a small item to infer something larger.

Usually, if you are say... at the Ford dealership and see 500 Fords and 2 Chevys, you can give a reasonable estimate that your next car will be a Ford.

However, if you are in an accident with a white car, not all white cars are out to get you. There are other factors involved.

To use the example, Hitler wore brown pants, so all people with brown pants are evil. Hitler was also a Capricorn and a vegetarian. Of course, the vegetarians are a suspicious lot and bear watching. ;)

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OK, so that is Goodwin's Law.

Do you know what Cole's Law is?











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People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

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To use the example, Hitler wore brown pants, so all people with brown pants are evil. Hitler was also a Capricorn and a vegetarian. Of course, the vegetarians are a suspicious lot and bear watching.



True, but the obverse is valid. By citing the example of Hitler, one can argue that vegetarianism and temperance does not necessarily make one a moral person, which is what I think people generally do with this case.
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True, but the obverse is valid. By citing the example of Hitler, one can argue that vegetarianism and temperance does not necessarily make one a moral person, which is what I think people generally do with this case.



I think it is interesting when someone is trying to make a point and another person comes up with the one exception. One exception does not make a rule invalid.

I drive my car and go through green lights. Every so often, someone runs a red light and whacks another car. I still go on the green lights.

Life is run on the high percentages. A good generalization is when it occurs about 95% of the time. A good losing argument is characterized by the nit-picky response.

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>Every so often, someone runs a red light and whacks another car. I
>still go on the green lights.

That's fine - but it's also perfectly valid to say that waiting for the green light does not guarantee that you won't get whacked by another car. I agree, it's all in the percentages, as long as you're not talking guarantees or absolutes (i.e. "all vegetarians are moral.")

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I think it's time to introduce people on Talkback to Paul's Law. At its most basic level, it means that if you bring up BOOBIES and/or BEER in an attempt to make your point, you have automatically won the argument, and the thread gets hyjacked. It's a very long standing Internet tradition - which, on the time scale of the Internet, means it's around for over a decade. Which Al Gore invented. It used to apply solely to DZ's groups but it's just as valid here.

From the official Paul's Law FAQ:

"When someboy on DZ.com brings up BEER and BOOBIES the thread is just getting interesting."
Paul's Law: /prov./ [Wherever] "As a DZ's discussion grows
longer, the probability of a comparison involving BOOBIES and BEER
approaches one." There is a tradition in many groups that, once
this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned it should go to the pub
Paul's Law thus practically guarantees the existence of no bound on
thread length in those groups of BOOBIES and BEER.
- The Beeker File


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I feel your pain. Unless you are feeling pain in a National Socialist kind of way.

I suspect you are only feeling Commercial Airline Pilot kind of pain, though, and that is directly related to skydiving.

So, yeah. I feel your pain.
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It is 100% certain that you/we will die one day. Next question please



Not really. It will be a 100% certainty once we have all died. However, so far so good. ;) My plan to live forever has been successful to this point. :D



It would also depend on your acceptance of the biological definition of "life".
If you have a differeing definition you may indeed "LIVE FOREVER"
You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky)
My Life ROCKS!
How's yours doing?

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At its most basic level, it means that if you bring up Nazis or Hitler in an attempt to make your point, you have automatically lost the argument, and the thread ends. It's a very long standing Internet tradition



You mean someone actually wins or loses arguments on the Internet??? I was not aware of this! I thought all arguments just went on in mind-numbing rhetoric until the thread finally got locked!!??? :S:P Or unless, of course, someone quickly hijacked the thread by mentioning BOOBIES... :D (or is this only on dropzone.com??? ;-)

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