Can you legal types verify this?

[jumper03 0]

Or is it a hoax? If it's not, then I want to buy that judge a case of whatever he drinks....

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Thought you might appreciate this.

Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe and
tried to light it? Did you know his trial is over? Did you know he was
sentenced? Did you see/hear any of the judge's comments on TV/Radio? - - -
Didn't think so. Liberal media at work again. Everyone should hear what
the judge had to say.

Ruling by Judge William Young U.S. District Court

Prior to sentencing, the Judge asked the defendant if he had anything to
say. His response: After admitting his guilt to the court for the record,
Reid also admitted his "allegiance to Osama bin Laden, to Islam, and to
the religion of Allah," defiantly stated "I think I ought not apologize
for my actions," and told the court "I am at war with your country."

Judge Young then delivered the statement quoted below, a stinging
condemnation of Reid in particular and terrorists in general.

January 30, 2003 United States vs. Reid. Judge Young:

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Mr. Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the sentence the Court imposes upon
you. On counts 1, 5 and 6 the Court sentences you to life in prison in the
custody of the United States Attorney General. On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7,
the Court sentences you to 20 years in prison on each count, the sentence
on each count to run consecutive with the other. That's 80 years. On count
8 the Court sentences you to the mandatory 30 years consecutive to the 80
years just imposed. The Court imposes upon you each of the eight counts a
fine of $250,000 for the aggregate fine of $2 million. The Court accepts
the government's recommendation with respect to restitution and orders
restitution in the amount of $298.17 to Andre Bousquet and $5,784 to
American Airlines. The Court imposes upon you the $800 special assessment.
The Court imposes upon you five years supervised release simply
because the law requires it. But the life sentences are real life sentences
so I need go no further.

This is the sentence that is provided for by our statutes. It is a fair and
just sentence. It is a righteous sentence. Let me explain this to you. We
are not afraid of you or any of your terrorist co-conspirators, Mr. Reid.
We are Americans. We have been through the fire before. There is all too
much war talk here. And I say that to everyone with the utmost respect.

Here in this court, we deal with individuals as individuals, and care for
individuals as individuals. As human beings, we reach out for justice. You
are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist. You are not a soldier in
any war. You are a terrorist. To give you that reference, to call you a
soldier, gives you far too much stature. Whether it is the officers of
government who do it or your attorney who does it, or that happens to be
your view, you are a terrorist. And we do not negotiate with terrorists. We
do not treat with terrorists. We do not sign documents with terrorists. We
hunt them down one by one and bring them to justice. So war talk is way out
of line in this court.

You are a big fellow. But you are not that big. You're no warrior. I know
warriors. You are a terrorist. A species of cr iminal guilty of multiple
attempted murders. In a very real sense, State Trooper Santiago had it
right when you first were taken off that plane and into custody and you
wondered where the press and where the TV crews were, and he said you're no
big deal. You're no big deal. What your counsel, what your able counsel and
what the equally able United States attorneys have grappled with and what I
have as honestly as I know how tried to grapple with, is why you did
something so horrific. What was it that led you here to this courtroom
today? I have listened respectfully to what you have to say. And I ask you
to search your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable hate led
you to do what you are guilty and admit you are guilty of doing. And
I have an answer for you. It may not satisfy you. But as I search this
entire record, it comes as close to understanding as I know.

It seems to me you hate the one thing that is most precious. You hate our
freedom. Our individual freedom. Our individual freedom to live as we
choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not believe as we
individually choose. Here, in this society, the very winds carry freedom.
They carry it everywhere from sea to shining sea. It is because we prize
individual freedom so much that you are here in this beautiful courtroom.
So that everyone can see, truly see that justice is administered fairly,
individually, and discretely. It is for freedom's sake that your lawyers
are striving so vigorously on your behalf and have filed appeals, will go
on in their representation of you before other judges. We are about it.
Because we all know that the way we treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of
our own liberties. Make no mistake though. It is yet true that we will bear
any burden, pay any price, to preserve our freedoms. Look around this
courtro! om. Mark it well. The world is not going to long remember what you
or I say here. Day after tomorrow it will be forgotten. But this, however,
will long endure. Here in this courtroom and courtrooms all across America,
the American people will gather to see that justice, individual justice,
justice, not war, individual justice is in fact being done.

The very President of the United States through his officers will have to
come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which specific matters can be
judged, and juries of citizens will gather to sit and judge that evidence
democratically, to mold and shape and refine our sense of justice. See that
flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of the United States of America. That flag
will fly there long after this is all forgotten. That flag stands for
freedom. You know it always will.

Custody, Mr. Officer. Stand him down.
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So, how much of this Judge's comments did we hear on our TV sets? We need
more judges like Judge Young, but that's another subject. Pass this
around. Everyone should and needs to hear what this fine judge had to say.
Powerful words that strike home . .

Scars remind us that the past is real

[Gawain 0]

Snopes says it's real:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/reid.asp

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[Flygator 0]

Thanks!!! For posting what the wimpy liberal media wouldn't spread to the public! I will be copying this and emailing it to all my friends and if the don't like it...tough...they're not my friends or yours...they are the enemy...

The secret to life is not arriving at the grave in a well preserved body but sliding in sideways completely worn out yelling "holy crap" what a ride!!!

[tinfoil 0]

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I will be copying this and emailing it to all my friends and if the don't like it...tough...they're not my friends or yours...they are the enemy...

Wait, are you saying that just beause someone doesn't agree with you, they become an enemy?

“- - Sumo is the greatest of sports. It has power, grace, speed and cluture. And most importantly, two fat bastards smacking the shit out of each other. ”

[aero04 0]

Wow, strong words. But true words, IMHO. Whether this speech turns out to be true or not, I think it is a powerful speech that hits the nail on the head.

[Flygator 0]

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Wait, are you saying that just beause someone doesn't agree with you, they become an enemy?

No, that's not what I'm saying. You have to choose sides in this situation. There is no in between or compromise when it comes to terrorism. That would be impossible! Your either, not both. Your for terrorism or against it. I am against it and those for it are my enemies because they intend to harm me or my family and I take that very personal!

[tinfoil 0]

Alright, fare enough.
But terrorism has a broad definition, and is very relative. While one group may consider an action terrorism, another might say it is justified.

“- - Sumo is the greatest of sports. It has power, grace, speed and cluture. And most importantly, two fat bastards smacking the shit out of each other. ”

[billvon 3,119]

>You have to choose sides in this situation.

OK, let's go with that angle. You either support the constitution 100%, including the parts about legal representation, right to jury trial etc or you're anti-american. So do you support the constitution 100%? Or are you anti-american?

[kallend 2,150]

I heard it the day it happened, on NPR.

It wasn't a secret. Just because someone missed the news doesn't mean there's a media conspiracy.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[kallend 2,150]

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Thanks!!! For posting what the wimpy liberal media wouldn't spread to the public! I will be copying this and emailing it to all my friends and if the don't like it...tough...they're not my friends or yours...they are the enemy...

RUBBISH - it was well reported the day it happened.

Who owns the "liberal media"? Bunch of rich folks and large corporations, that's who.

The "liberal media" are an invention of the right.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[billvon 3,119]

>For posting what the wimpy liberal media wouldn't spread to the public!

I saw it on CNN a day or so after it happened. (their web site.) I don't know what wimpy liberal media _you_ get your news from; you might want to switch to CNN or NPR, those bastions of conservativism.

[lawrocket 3]

In fact...

clicky

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Flygator 0]

Very good question...BUT...I'd still have to support the Constitution just like I supported my Country when I was a Soldier...

The secret to life is not arriving at the grave in a well preserved body but sliding in sideways completely worn out yelling "holy crap" what a ride!!!