kevin922 0 #1 October 31, 2003 Put it in talk back because the population i'm looking for probably doesn't frequent wingsuits :) Just curious how much of the population still hasn't been exposed to wingsuits... If you haven't ever seen one in person, and you don't have 'em at your dz - be so kind and tell us where you jump... Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflygoddess 0 #2 October 31, 2003 I am doing a rodeo jump this weekend, as long as there is a load where we can both sneak away from working...he is a TM and I work manifest... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brains 2 #3 October 31, 2003 I have seen one before, but there aren't any at our dz. Skydive San Marcos, but you already knew that. Never look down on someone, unless they are going down on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #4 October 31, 2003 None at my DZ, but I'm hopefully buying one next weekend. C'mon, unemployment! It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #5 October 31, 2003 QuoteNone at my DZ, but I'm hopefully buying one next weekend. C'mon, unemployment! Buying new or used? If new, your dz won't have one for another 8 weeks :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #6 October 31, 2003 I've seen a few in Deland. She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kansasskydiver 0 #7 October 31, 2003 i've seen one before but we don't have any at our dz. a dear friend of ours and club president at the time was killed flying a wingsuit 2 years ago. So it's kinda like an unwritten rule that we don't allow wingsuits at the dz due to the tragic accident<--- See look, pink dolphins DO exist! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #8 October 31, 2003 None at my DZ, and since Erk doesnt want to push his crack on me anymore, I guess I'll have to wait....Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #9 October 31, 2003 QuoteQuoteNone at my DZ, but I'm hopefully buying one next weekend. C'mon, unemployment! Buying new or used? If new, your dz won't have one for another 8 weeks :) Used. Cheap. Original. As soon as someone on here gets back to me on if it's still for sale or not! Not saying who, or where, or how much. Let's just say it's a really good deal, and I'm not risking having it bought before I can get there..... It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #10 October 31, 2003 Quotei've seen one before but we don't have any at our dz. a dear friend of ours and club president at the time was killed flying a wingsuit 2 years ago. So it's kinda like an unwritten rule that we don't allow wingsuits at the dz due to the tragic accident As horrific as that may be (i don't know the details on the accident) you guys really look down on wingsuit flight at your dz because of the accident? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #11 October 31, 2003 No disrespect to Geoff, but people get killed skydiving without wingsuits too.Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #12 October 31, 2003 Its still for sale, and its waiting on you. I've got a surprize for you too on it.... As for the fatility there is a lot more going on then just a wingsuit jump. Unstable deployments will kill you with or with out a wingsuit. Date Location Category Age # Jumps AAD?/RSL? 6/15/2001 Wichita, KS MAL 21 >300 Yes/No Description: This jumper's exited a Cessna 182 from 11,000 feet, making his 5th or 6th jump with a Birdman suit. Witnesses on the ground observed deployment at an estimated 4,000 feet AGL. The main parachute started to spin immediately after deployment and continued until impact. The Coroner stated that the injuries sustained upon impact caused immediate death. Two USPA S&TA's, in cooperation with the Sedgwick County Sheriff and Coroners office conducted the investigation at the scene. The investigation showed that the right suspension lines were routed under his right arm and wrapped tightly around his right leg. The slider was wrapped around his right foot.. The canopy, a Cobalt 150, was fully deployed but with this "horseshoe" malfunction the canopy started an unrecoverable spin. The cutaway handle was inaccessible because of the way the suspension lines pressed the birdman wing against his body, totally covering the cutaway handle. It is the consensus of the two S&TA's investigating this incident that even if he could have cut away, the suspension lines were so severely wrapped around the arms, legs, and foot that it would not have made a difference in clearing the malfunction. The reserve was not deployed, but the reserved handle was dislodged, most likely as a result of impact. The rate of decent was not sufficient to cause the CYPRES to fire. The S&TA's concur in their opinion that this incident was probably the result of deploying in an unstable body position. We have no way of knowing for sure if the Birdman suit was the only contributing factor, but since this jumper had no history of problems prior to this incident, his limited experience with the Birdman suit was most likely a factor in creating an unstable body position at deployment, resulting in a horseshoe malfunction. Unfortunately, because of the nature of this particular situation, he was left with little or no options to correct the situation. Lessons: Deployment with birdman suits is a little tricky; this incident demonstrates exactly badly things can go. If you choose to jump any suit or device which significantly changes your deployment method, you are taking an additional risk.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #13 October 31, 2003 QuoteIts still for sale, and its waiting on you. I've got a surprize for you too on it.... Ooh! Ooh! Send a PM! Tell me! Tell me! (I should know about the unemployment in the next hour.) It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #14 October 31, 2003 No wingsuits at West Tennessee Skydiving. Bring it! ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kansasskydiver 0 #15 October 31, 2003 no i'm not saying that we look down on wingsuits, personally i think they are cool and would love to fly one, but because of the event we kinda won't jump one out of respect for geoff's mom. i have nothing againsts them, please don't think that about myself or my dz, we just don't see them at our dz because of what happen<--- See look, pink dolphins DO exist! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ypelchat 0 #16 October 31, 2003 QuotePut it in talk back because the population i'm looking for probably doesn't frequent wingsuits :) Just curious how much of the population still hasn't been exposed to wingsuits... If you haven't ever seen one in person, and you don't have 'em at your dz - be so kind and tell us where you jump... Kevin We have about 25 of them at my DZ right now. I'm not sure, but I think we have one of the largest flock , if not the largest flock in north america. We have wingsuit jumpers jumping in just about every load at my DZ. We also have 2 BMI. Yves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shunkka 0 #17 October 31, 2003 in my country noone fly a WS noone have one and if i know well noone really saw one sad but true ------------------------- "jump, have fun, pull" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #18 October 31, 2003 I've been toying with the idea of making a Birdman jump. I'll have to borrow someone's Spectre or a 9 cell square though. I won't do one on my Stiletto. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,110 #19 October 31, 2003 >I won't do one on my Stiletto. Smart man! How tall are you? I've got a spare one here . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefallfreak 0 #20 October 31, 2003 QuoteNone at my DZ, but I'm hopefully buying one next weekend. C'mon, unemployment! Uhh, this one is a bit "homemade" but you can borrow it, lol... TripleF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #21 October 31, 2003 I've got a spare one here and he's only liek 3 hours away Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #22 November 1, 2003 QuoteHow tall are you? Mmmm...5'9" or 10". About 185lbs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeemax 0 #23 November 1, 2003 I've seen one at my local DZ (headcorn UK) I really cant wait until i have the experience and understanding to jump one. They look so amazing at only 41 jumps though, its a bit of a way yet Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #24 November 1, 2003 Hell we even have a few up here at Snohomish and Kapowsin in Washington. I plan on adding me to that list as well sometime this winter after a few other toys get paid off.... so many toys... so little time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McDuck 0 #25 November 1, 2003 They don't seem to be a REGULAR occurrence at our DZ, but I did get to see one while a BM instructor was teaching a student how to fly it. I felt like I was five years old all over again. It was fascinating to me to watch the training and see the suit up close. I know, I'm a dork. Kevin - Sonic Beef #5 - OrFun #28 "I never take myself too seriously, 'cuz everybody know fat birds don't fly." - FLC Online communities: proof that people never mature much past high school. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
