Democrats lose Kentucky, Mississippi governorships

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(CNN) -- The Democratic Party's electoral woes in the South continued Tuesday, as Republicans captured Kentucky's governorship for the first time in more than three decades and Mississippi Gov. Ronnie Musgrove became the fifth Democratic incumbent to fall in the past year.

Republican Haley Barbour, a Washington lobbyist and former chairman of the Republican National Committee, won the Mississippi governorship in a tight race with Musgrove.

"We Republicans have a wonderful team and we believe in team work," Barbour said in his victory speech. "Being part of that team will help Mississippi for the next four years."

With 84 percent of the precincts reporting, Barbour secured 53 percent, compared to 45 percent for Musgrove, according to The Associated Press, who reported Barbour's victory early Wednesday.

Musgrove is the fifth sitting Democratic governor ousted in the past year, and the fourth in the South.

In last fall's mid-term elections, Democratic governors fell in Georgia, South Carolina and Alabama; in October, California Gov. Gray Davis was recalled and replaced by Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger.

In Tuesday's off-year election in Kentucky, GOP U.S. Rep. Ernie Fletcher defeated Democratic state Attorney General Ben Chandler to take the helm of the Bluegrass State. The seat was open because the incumbent Democrat, Gov. Paul Patton, mired in a messy adultery scandal, was forced from office by term limits.

With 100 percent of the precincts reporting, Fletcher won 55 percent, compared to 45 percent for Chandler, according to vote totals from The Associated Press.

"I never dreamed we would win by the margin we won by. That's something else," said Fletcher. "It's a new era in Kentucky."

While Kentucky has trended Republican in federal races -- President Bush carried 57 percent of the state's vote in 2000 -- the top state office had been solidly in Democratic hands. The last Republican elected governor was Louie B. Nunn, who served from 1967-1971.

During the campaign, Fletcher, 50, a doctor first elected to Congress in 1998, had tied Chandler to the unpopular Patton and the state's Democratic political establishment, vowing to clean up "the mess in Frankfort."

Chandler, 43, the grandson of legendary Kentucky politico A.B. "Happy" Chandler, tried to distance himself from Patton, who admitted to having an affair with a nursing home operator who now accuses the governor of turning state regulators loose on her business when she ended their relationship.

Patton denied the charge, but Democrats feared the fallout from the scandal would hurt them in the governor's race.


Republican gubernatorial candidate Ernie Fletcher, right, and lieutenant governor hopeful Steve Pence celebrate their wins in Kentucky.
Conceding defeat, Chandler, quoting his grandfather, told supporters, "When you dig a dry hole, don't stand there and fill it with tears. Move your digger."

Chandler focused his campaign on the state's economy, which he said had been hurt by Bush administration policies that Fletcher supported in Congress. But Fletcher, banking on the president's popularity in Kentucky, did not shy away from their connection, bringing Bush to the state for rallies last weekend.

With Musgrove's loss, only four of the 13 states in the South, once a Democratic bastion, will have Democratic governors. However, Democrats could gain a fifth seat next week in Louisiana, where Democratic Lt. Gov. Kathleen Blanco is locked in a tight runoff race with Republican Bobby Jindal to replace term-limited GOP Gov. Mike Foster.

Musgrove, 47, ran as a conservative, calling attention to his opposition to abortion and gun control while shying away from the Democratic label in his advertising. The governor attacked Barbour for being a Washington lobbyist who worked for tobacco and pharmaceutical companies, and he touted his own efforts to improve education and bring jobs to the state.

But Barbour, 56, focused his campaign on what he called a lack of leadership in Mississippi, one of the nation's poorest states, blaming the incumbent for the state's economic woes. Barbour also brought Bush to the state, which the president carried with 58 percent of the vote in 2000.

[Kennedy 0]

Yippee!!

Now if only my home state (and a few dozen others)would wise up...

God save the Republic. You're the only one who can.

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[ihateskydivers 0]

We're going to have to get a 'Republican Skydivers' club formed.

[Kennedy 0]

Who said Republican? I don't really like the party much more than the Dems. Just certain candidates stand out as acceptable. As does the occasional Dem.

Basically, you can find my stance on most any issue in my sig and in a poem someone posted here a while back:
You can choose from phantom fears
And kindness that can kill
I will choose a path that's clear
I will choose free will.


This post is not PC, and neither am I. Have issues? You are hereby invited to take notice of the small bit of mistletoe hanging from the rear of my kilt.

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[ihateskydivers 0]

Shit, sorry, I got nutz and thought someone knew something about politics.

[Kennedy 0]

So knowing something about politics requires someone to agree with your point of view?


(holds out treat tempting trolls to feed...)

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[TheAnvil 0]

I think it's interesting to note that Mr. Musgrove is a really conservative democrat. He's a supporter of Judge Charles Pickering for elevation to the appellate bench and earned the ire of the NAACP for allowing MS citizens to vote on the confederate flag issue with regards to the state flag. He was not a bad democrat, as far as dem's go.

As a native Kentuckian, I can tell you that ANY Chandler losing a hotly contested state-wide race is amazing. Mr. Chandler's father is a legend in KY. Few people - even young'uns() wouldn't recognize the name Happy Chandler. Most older Kentuckians would be hard pressed NOT to name two or three great things the man did for the state. Happy Chandler was a great man held in high esteem by 99.9% of the state's populace. Add to this the fact that KY hasn't had a Republican governor since before I was born, and you get a feel for the momentousness of this election for KY. Especially the state Republican party.

As Zell Miller pointed out recently, any of the major heavies the left could have sent to MS would have doomed Musgrove to failure. They have all crucified Judge Pickering, who is WILDLY popular in the state. They have positions contrare to Mr. Musgrove on the confederate flag issue and a myriad of different things.

Just a few remarks on the election. I don't think that any democratic candidate could have taken either state in '04 for the presidency regardless of their outcome.

Beers to all,

Vinny the Anvil (Jeanne, you make call me JACKASS if you like)

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

[Muenkel 0]

Does anyone see a trend here? 2000, 2002 and now this? Maybe Republicans are not as stupid as the lefties and the media would like us to think.

Alot is said about GWB being inept. Has anyone checked out the numbskulls the Dems have out there running for the Executive Office?

Someone offer Terry McAuliffe an aspirin...I think he needs one right now.

Chris

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Does anyone see a trend here? 2000, 2002 and now this? Maybe Republicans are not as stupid as the lefties and the media would like us to think.

some just don't get it.

a) no one wants to pay more taves
b) GW pulled us out of the slump left by slick willy
c) less Gov't is better
d) we are in Iraq for a reason and have a plan
e) the dems have nothing new to offer

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some just don't get it.

a) no one wants to pay more taves
b) GW pulled us out of the slump left by slick willy
c) less Gov't is better
d) we are in Iraq for a reason and have a plan
e) the dems have nothing new to offer

a) sure you want a free ride... and still get all the services you demand.
b) yeah we are REALLY pulling out of a slump.. from a positive in the black.. to the largest bleeding deficit EVER.
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
This is less government.. DUDE I want some of what yall are smokin down there.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/02/03/bush.budget/

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A11221-2003Jun18¬Found=true

Notice how its been kept off most peoples radars.


Its even worse than good ole Ronnies Trickeled down on ecomics.

c) less government.. BWAHAHAHA;; with the Patriot Act???BWAHAHAHAHA
d) Would someone clue George in to what it is.. so he will let the rest of us know???? Oh wait we are stopping the proliferation of WMD... Next stop N Korea... where they actually have some I hear...Oh thats right fighting terror. Maybe the guys in Afghanistan... and other places... but now we have given the terrorists LOTS of new recruits and plenty of targets in Iraq... because of Iraq..

e) There is nothing new to offer.. its just rehashing old shit.. just like right now.. Millions of people trickled on by voo doo doo economics. But what the hell it works really good for the rich..

By the way I will guarantee you that I pay a LOT more taxes than most people do. I can use the tax breaks.


What are YOU going to do when your company... owned by one of them Patriotic Republican dudes....all patriotic and right wing.. sends your jobs to India or Mexico.... or Taiwan.. because of the bottom line... all together now.. sing along...Three cheers for the Red White and Blue....oops now that isnt so patriotic is it.

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b) GW pulled us out of the slump left by slick willy
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d) we are in Iraq for a reason and have a plan

I either want some of the stuff you are smoking or you must stop watching Fox News 24 hours a day...

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What are YOU going to do when your company... owned by one of them Patriotic Republican dudes....all patriotic and right wing.. sends your jobs to India or Mexico.... or Taiwan.. because of the bottom line... all together now.. sing along...Three cheers for the Red White and Blue....oops now that isnt so patriotic is it.

[ScubaSteve 0]

Required reading for the voo-doo econ people. It works folks.

http://www.wanniski.com/showarticle.asp?articleid=2803

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) sure you want a free ride... and still get all the services you demand.

free ride hardly, I don't want shit like NPR and gov't programs that are pissing away our money. Our airport just receive a federal grant to fence in the airport. They spent $85,000 on 2 gates. When I found out i called the airport manager and he said "it was free" I pointed out that it was OUR_TAX_MONEY!

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b) yeah we are REALLY pulling out of a slump.. from a positive in the black.. to the largest bleeding deficit EVER.

and as the economy improves the deficit will disappear.

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c) less government. with the Patriot Act???

I guess in your feminazi rage you forgot we were attacked on 9/11

as she rages on

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Would someone clue George in to what it is.. so he will let the rest of us know????

He has a very good handle on what's going on. It's the 9 want-a-be's that are clueless. I guess with out slick willy they are powerless

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voo doo doo economics

as you called it helped create the largest period of growth in the US. Maybe one of us can sit you down and explain that using words you can understand.

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By the way I will guarantee you that I pay a LOT more taxes than most people do. I can use the tax breaks.

and it's good for the economy. Nothing is stoping you from turning in your tax cut money back in to the gov't.

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What are YOU going to do when your company... owned by one of them Patriotic Republican dudes....all patriotic and right wing.. sends your jobs to India or Mexico.... or Taiwan.. because of the bottom line

I have a skill set that can't be exported. I also have a couple side things going that I do ok. I'm thinking about opening a 3rd. If you want to make it in the good old USA all you have to do is work at it.

I agree

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Three cheers for the Red White and Blue

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I guess in your feminazi rage you forgot we were attacked on 9/11

Kewl using Rush Lamedoperisms terminology... the Butt stain that never served his country because he had an ingrown ass hair....SWEEEET...

Yes we were attacked... by 19 Saudi's... our good friends the Saudies.. so obvioously we need internal monitoring of Americans to fight an external threat from muslim fundamentalists...great targeting.. just like the TSA searching little old ladies at the airport.

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and as the economy improves the deficit will disappear.

Right.. be sure to explain that to your grankids when they are paying for The Bush Wars.

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as you called it helped create the largest period of growth in the US. Maybe one of us can sit you down and explain that using words you can understand.

Uh.. Guess again... remember why Bill Clinton got elected over Bush 1... does the term..... "It's the economy, stupid" ring any bells.. Bush 1 lost because the voo doo doo didnt work. But it seems there were plenty of job creations AND a bustling economy AFTER Clinton came into office...I guess the blow jobs kept him focused on the economy.

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He has a very good handle on what's going on.

yup he knows he F@#ed up... got off track on the war on terror... OBL is sitting in some 3rd world stinkhole biding his time.. and training ALL of the new recruits that are flocking to him. George took the best damn military in the world.. a superb attack force and made them nice static targets.. yup George has a good handle on it...but he can't quite tell us all what it is because every time he opens his mouth he steps on his tongue.
I have to admit.. at least he hasnt screwed up his new line yet...Stay the Course... that is just about his level of attention span when speaking.

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Right.. be sure to explain that to your grankids when they are paying for The Bush Wars.

[kallend 2,154]

Isn't losing Mississippi a bit like losing toothache?

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[TheAnvil 0]

I sense a distinct lack of knowledge concerning deficits here on both the left and the right. Not just this thread, but dz.com as a whole. Perhaps I am incorrect, but the context of several posts in the political realms leads me to this conclusion.

If anyone hasn't done so, I highly suggest they review the Bureau of Public Debt's website http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/ a bit. You'll be surprised at what you find regarding the debts makeup, the increase of the debt in our 'surplus' years, etc. It's a larger problem than many realize.

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Kewl using Rush Lamedoperisms terminology...

I'm only calling it as I see it. I'm sure others would agree.

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It's the economy, stupid"

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Right.. be sure to explain that to your grankids when they are paying for The Bush Wars.

note to feminazi: did you see the job growth figures over 125,000 new jobs. The economy is on the rebound and the knuckelhead nine still don' t have a plan other than tax the hell out of everyone.

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I guess the blow jobs kept him focused on the economy.

no it just helped him NOT to think of hillary.

rest of your rant

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bla bla bla

You have been watching way to much CNN. If you would take the time to talk to some troops that have been over there as I have, and got past your (how can I put this without the greenies getting me), your far left wing thinking, you would know that while things are not smooth in all areas things get better everyday. I just heard in south Iraq some of the Brits are no longer in battle gear.

When GW gets re-elected I bet it really going to piss you off, isn't it?

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I agree. Good call.

[TheAnvil 0]

My dearest bodypilot90,

I think you nailed it.

But don't you know that democrats aren't REQUIRED to have a plan other than tax the hell out of everyone? Well....everyone who achieves. All they do is attack attack attack attack attack, race-bait, play on the jealosy of small minded people with their class warfare garbage, and whine. It's not about having a plan to them - it's about getting into office to promote their left-wing social agenda!

I will say this - Kerry gave some inkling of a plan in one of the debates. It was totally stupid and bereft of any semblance of logic, but a plan he did hint at.

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

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Isn't losing Mississippi a bit like losing toothache?

Maybe so, but the pain may end up in their ass.

never pull low......unless you are

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note to feminazi: did you see the job growth figures over 125,000 new jobs. The economy is on the rebound and the knuckelhead nine still don' t have a plan other than tax the hell out of everyone.

Note to doper idolizer: and the new 125'000 jobs???
Certainly not in the manufacturing sector... could it be seasonal harvest jobs just past????? Could it be seasonal retail jobs for holidays???? It sure as hell is not manufacturing jobs... or high tech. Ask ANY of the myriad people on DZ. com if they got some of those jobs.... I bet not too many of them are willing to go after that rewarding career position in the fast food industry..but I hear they are hiring for minimum wage.

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You have been watching way to much CNN. If you would take the time to talk to some troops that have been over there as I have, and got past your (how can I put this without the greenies getting me), your far left wing thinking, you would know that while things are not smooth in all areas things get better everyday. I just heard in south Iraq some of the Brits are no longer in battle gear

Yup I am a far lefty... NOT... but I am to the left .. of your Dr Goerblesesque position on the Ultra Right Hand. But in the lexicon of the Ashcrofties like you .... anyone who does not fall in goose step with him is a lefty.

By the way.. your following your doper leader and his use of the term feminazi... is all too typical of how so many of you over there in the Left Hand really feel about women.. especially ANY woman who has the audacity to talk back to all knowing men like you. .. Go back to your 1950's wet dream fantasy world.

And as far as the election?? Unless something major occurs... he will win. And he can continue to drag the country towards an evangelical apocalypse.

George cant loose.. the Supreme Court was bought and paid for.. long ago.
http://www.surrealist.org/betrayalofthespirit/bush.html

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Note to doper idolizer: and the new 125'000 jobs???
Certainly not in the manufacturing sector... could it be seasonal harvest jobs just past????? Could it be seasonal retail jobs for holidays???? It sure as hell is not manufacturing jobs... or high tech. Ask ANY of the myriad people on DZ. com if they got some of those jobs.... I bet not too many of them are willing to go after that rewarding career position in the fast food industry..but I hear they are hiring for minimum wage.

You have any facts to back up your claims?

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Yup I am a far lefty... NOT... but I am to the left .. of your Dr Goerblesesque position on the Ultra Right Hand. But in the lexicon of the Ashcrofties like you .... anyone who does not fall in goose step with him is a lefty.

Oh, now we are getting somewhere. You're calling him a Nazi?? Nice, real nice.

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By the way.. your following your doper leader and his use of the term feminazi... is all too typical of how so many of you over there in the Left Hand really feel about women.. especially ANY woman who has the audacity to talk back to all knowing men like you.

Bawdry and obnoxious would be a better description.

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And as far as the election?? Unless something major occurs... he will win. And he can continue to drag the country towards an evangelical apocalypse.

George cant loose.. the Supreme Court was bought and paid for.. long ago.

So lets see if I got you here.

If Bush was "Selected" and NOT "Elected" that means this term doesn't count and he gets to run for 2 more terms as President???

BTW it's spelled "lose" not "loose". I knew you would want that pointed out since you are so quick to criticize others spelling.

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You have any facts to back up your claims?

http://msnbc.com/news/990515.asp?0cv=CB10

Job growth last month was strongest in service sector industries like health and education, while the battered manufacturing sector shed jobs for a 39th straight month.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/990546.asp

Bush brought no new proposals to a state that has lost a fifth of its manufacturing jobs in the last three years but said his administration’s tax cuts and free-trade policies will ensure better days ahead.

TEXTILE EXECUTIVES IRATE
His visit, however, was met by irate textile executives who see his policies in an entirely different light. Many blame the Bush administration for not acting to control a flood of job-endangering cheap imports.
Earlier, the president attempted to speak to those worries before about 550 enthusiastic GOP supporters helping the president raise money for his re-election.





“I understand that trade is a two-way street,” Bush said, “that if we have trade with other neighbors, with other countries, we expect there to be fair trade coming the other way.”

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Oh, now we are getting somewhere. You're calling him a Nazi?? Nice, real nice.

I am referring to fascist PROPOGANDA as popularized by a true master of it. And its spot on for the latest "figures" .

Moderates in this country no longer have a voice. I voted for Ronald Reagan. But this lunacy is out of control in this country... and anyone who tries to speak up for anything but the PARTY LINE.... is continually discounted as a leftist. Please actually READ something more than Fox News.. and quit practicing rectal anal insertion.

If you're still naive and wondering what dangerous doomsday cult could take over the U.S. government, read up on it. When Time Shall Be No More: Prophecy Belief in Modern American Culture by Paul Boyer. The author describes the development and continuing influence of end times prophecy dominant in American Christianity. While the Catholics, Anglicans, Quakers, and other Christian sects have worked for peace, Bush and millions of Americans who follow the fundamentalist right-winged end times wing-nut cult, have pressed for war.

So what do you think will be the death toll in the Bush Wars will be eventually.