NovaTTT 2 #1 May 3, 2011 I'm trying to track down the owner of an orphaned rig and it seems to me there ought to be a simple way to search using the seal symbol, which is often (but not always) the only legible writing riggers put on a PDC. Flippin' riggers - we're worse than doctors. I am certain there isn't such a search available, but if anyone knows of such, please post the addy. On the other hand, does anyone know "PII", who riggged at Gardiner, NY (The Ranch) as of 06 March 1998? Name appears to be Van something. FAA site requires a full last name and Landings doesn't have a listing for this rigger. Any help is appreciated! Cheers."Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaTTT 2 #2 May 3, 2011 A quiet storm of inquiries has been productive. It's a hell of a lot of work to go through just to identify a rigger. Perhaps the PIA will consider approaching the FAA to include seal symbols as a search field. I hope you're reading this, Terry! "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #3 May 3, 2011 Quote It's a hell of a lot of work to go through just to identify a rigger. It's a LOT of work to track us down, because maybe we don't want to be tracked down? "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #4 May 3, 2011 I can't remember Van's last name, but if you give the Ranch a call they might be able to help.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaTTT 2 #5 May 3, 2011 @ Ski: A look at the "Shit Left In Reserves" thread lends credence to your idea. @ Diablo: Got it from Sonic last night - thanks for the tip nonetheless. I'm hoping Van regularly checks his facebook messages. Maybe I can sort this out before the weekend. ETA: Hey Terry Urban! I still hope you're reading this!! "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #6 May 3, 2011 An enterprising person could build a workable system. The FAA Airmen database (without seal symbols) is available for free. A list of seal symbols in electronic form should be just an FOIA request away. Merging the two should be straight forward, although I'm sure the government would find a way to make things difficult. Or you could just call the local FSDO or DPRE and ask if they can help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaTTT 2 #7 May 3, 2011 The FAA database lists the seal symbols of riggers. Curiously, it's found under the LIMITS heading. I don't think adding the search field would be more than a government programmer (or contracted programmer) could manage in a good day or two's worth of work. But then again, at times the government seems to thrive on finding new and unusual ways to make things difficult. I'm not going to hold my breath. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mchamp 1 #8 May 3, 2011 Quote @ Ski: A look at the "Shit Left In Reserves" thread lends credence to your idea. What exactly was that thread titled? I'm so curious now! completely forgot anyone?For info regarding lift ticket prices all around the world check out http://www.jumpticketprices.com/dropzones.asp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaTTT 2 #9 May 3, 2011 This is not the only thread on this, but it's the one I was thinking of when I typed that: Shit Left In Reserves"Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #10 May 3, 2011 I've asked for this before from the FAA. What I was told before I was a DPRE was that it wasn't available even to field inspectors. I'll ask again now that I have more of a relationship with them and see what the answer is. Seal symbols are on the airman certification look up but you can't search seal symbol.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #11 May 3, 2011 The raw data that the FAA makes available does not include seal symbol or any limits information, for some reason. I went ahead and made the FOIA request. I put a pretty low spending cap on the request, so I'm not sure if I'll get anything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #12 May 3, 2011 Quote I don't think adding the search field would be more than a government programmer (or contracted programmer) could manage in a good day or two's worth of work. Realistically, it should only take someone familiar with the database about 10-20 mins. Hell, if I had access to their online database backend, I could probably have a search utility done in a couple hours."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaTTT 2 #13 May 3, 2011 Quote Hell, if I had access to their online database backend, I could probably have a search utility done in a couple hours. Ta-daaa! And there it is, folks! The difference between Government Ethic and Reality! (uh-oh . . . SC might just be in this thread's near future!) Talk to Terry, Ski. Maybe with a little persuasion the FAA will let you work on it! "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baign32 0 #14 May 3, 2011 I thought this thread was to discuss what a GREAT job the Seals did taking that towel head Bin Laden. Oh well GO SEALs anyway! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #15 May 4, 2011 QuoteThe difference between Government Ethic and Reality! I am working on a GOVT contract ya know... just because I work here, doesn't mean they'll let me bring things like 'common sense' with me!"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #16 May 24, 2011 QuoteI've asked for this before from the FAA. What I was told before I was a DPRE was that it wasn't available even to field inspectors. I'll ask again now that I have more of a relationship with them and see what the answer is. Seal symbols are on the airman certification look up but you can't search seal symbol. Got the attached file from the FAA. A couple of things: - It appears to be somewhat incomplete. I was able to locate one person who appears in the FAA's online database but not in this file. - The file originally included addresses, which I removed because I am uncomfortable releasing that information wholesale. If you need an address, you can use the name to look it up in the online database. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tsalnukt 1 #17 May 24, 2011 It could be a dude named Patrick Van Hoy. He was around there around that time. MAybe this helps??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaTTT 2 #18 May 24, 2011 Great work! Thanks, Indyz."Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaTTT 2 #19 May 24, 2011 Thanks. ID'd the rigger a while back. I appreciate your input!"Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #20 May 24, 2011 Quote - It appears to be somewhat incomplete. I was able to locate one person who appears in the FAA's It's not very out of date, its got my seal that was issued at the end of Dec '10."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #21 May 24, 2011 I made my request on the 3rd of this month and received the file on the 6th, so I'm assuming it is reasonably up-to-date. The person I can't find had his ticket issued in the 60s and hasn't been active for a decade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #22 May 24, 2011 QuoteI made my request on the 3rd of this month and received the file on the 6th, so I'm assuming it is reasonably up-to-date. The person I can't find had his ticket issued in the 60s and hasn't been active for a decade. I'm curious who's seal symbol is "delta india echo" and if he/she would be willing to trade. Also would be willing to consider 911"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimjumper 25 #23 May 24, 2011 I have SWT and when I was active, called my rigging service "Too Sweet Rigging"! Stopped rigging when the work wasn't worth the pay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #24 May 24, 2011 QuoteQuote - It appears to be somewhat incomplete. I was able to locate one person who appears in the FAA's It's not very out of date, its got my seal that was issued at the end of Dec '10.mine is there (VVI) but for example VVJ (a famous dz.commer) is missingscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocPop 1 #25 May 25, 2011 It's funny that they issued the seal symbol "MAL" !"The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
