storm1977 0 #1 November 13, 2003 New Gallop poll is out Does the Media have a LIBERAL bias? 45% yes it has a liberal bias 36% it is right in the middle 15% unsure So, I will quote our good friend Kallend. Kallend is a proffesor, and I thought an itelligent guy until he made this statement a couple days ago. QuoteThe "left wing bias" is a myth believed by idiots. So, kallend I guess 45% of us are idiots, or ... let me guess GALLOP Polls are not accurate. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #2 November 13, 2003 More likely the former, although I disagree with Kallend's assertion that there is no liberal bias in the media. ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,110 #3 November 13, 2003 >So, kallend I guess 45% of us are idiots . . . By definition, over 45% of us have IQ's under 100. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BikerBabe 0 #4 November 13, 2003 Have you ever seen the tonight show segment called "Jaywalking"? Those are the people these surveys ask. I rest my case.Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #5 November 13, 2003 >Those are the people these surveys ask. Careful.. using big words like "Liberal" or "Right" might confuse some of those people. For every person with above 100 IQ there should be some one under 100... Scary thought huh? Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #6 November 13, 2003 Really, I thought the average IQ was 110-115 ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #7 November 13, 2003 individualy, yes, the iq is higher en Masse the IQ is likely in the teens.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #8 November 13, 2003 QuoteReally, I thought the average IQ was 110-115 Ignorance is curable, but not by watching Fox.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #9 November 13, 2003 Quote Kallend is a proffesor, and I thought an itelligent guy . I am not a "proffesor", neither am I "itelligent". I can, however, spell. Didn't 45% of Americans polled believe that extraterrestrials are living among us?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base698 20 #10 November 13, 2003 As I've said before and I'll say again... The only bias in the media is that which makes it money... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,110 #11 November 13, 2003 >Really, I thought the average IQ was 110-115 IQ is a relative measure of intelligence, defined such that the average intelligence level for a given age group is 100. From Psychology Online: What does IQ mean? An IQ tells you what your score is an a particular intelligence test, compared to your age-group. The test has a mean score of 100 points and a standard deviation of 15 points. What does this standard deviation mean? It means that 68 percent of that population score an IQ within the interval 85-115. And that 95 percent of the population scores within the interval 70-130. (We won't show the calculations for the interval-values to avoid difficult calculations.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #12 November 13, 2003 This poll is skewed; it doesn't have an option of "No." I'd be willing to bet a jump ticket that if you asked the same questions with 'conservative' in place of 'liberal' it would come out much the same. edited to add: what was the demographic of this poll?Keith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #13 November 13, 2003 QuoteDidn't 45% of Americans polled believe that extraterrestrials are living among us? I thought it was 35%. That, by the way, is significantly more than the 19% of people 30 and under who believe that Social Security will take care of them in retirement. See, only 19% of us are idiots. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #14 November 14, 2003 QuoteQuoteDidn't 45% of Americans polled believe that extraterrestrials are living among us? I thought it was 35%. That, by the way, is significantly more than the 19% of people 30 and under who believe that Social Security will take care of them in retirement. See, only 19% of us are idiots. Ha - Social Security is predicted to stay solvent for some years after I retire, but I'm not betting on it either.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #15 November 14, 2003 QuoteDidn't 45% of Americans polled believe that extraterrestrials are living among us? 45% of us ARE extraterrestrials. But please don't tell anyone. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #16 November 14, 2003 QuoteQuoteDidn't 45% of Americans polled believe that extraterrestrials are living among us? 45% of us ARE extraterrestrials. But please don't tell anyone. Are you a time traveler too? It is often argued that if time travel were possible, time travelers would be here among us.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,584 #17 November 14, 2003 QuoteAre you a time traveler too? I am. I travel forward, one minute at a time. 8:54 8:55 8:56... Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masher 1 #18 November 14, 2003 QuoteNew Gallop poll is out Does the Media have a LIBERAL bias? 45% yes it has a liberal bias 36% it is right in the middle 15% unsure and, may I ask, how big was their sample? 1-2000? How many people in the US? 300,000,000. mmmmm How representative is that? Paraphrasing Kallend here "I'd fail you for that."-- Arching is overrated - Marlies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #19 November 14, 2003 QuoteAre you a time traveler too? HA! I never do get over how you earthlings buy into into this "time" thing . . . . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #20 November 14, 2003 QuoteSo, kallend I guess 45% of us are idiots, or ... let me guess GALLOP Polls are not accurate. Just because people believe something, doesn't make it true. At one point in time a majority of the people on the planet thought it was flat -- didn't make it true.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #21 November 14, 2003 QuoteAt one point in time a majority of the people on the planet thought it was flat -- didn't make it true. Yeah, but I heard they were all liberals. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #22 November 14, 2003 Dude.. it is the CONSERVATIVES who do not readily accept change... think about this... New fangled idea that world is round.... CHURCH KNOWS its FLAT.. hmmm persecution happened... Think Galileo Returning to the history of religion, it alone is fraught with the slaughter of perhaps millions of people over the centuries. Rome looks back on a horrifying catalogue of murder, lies and corruption. Where does one start? The blatant lies? The Crusades? The Inquisition? The hundreds of destroyed and all based upon a different belief. The fear that must have spread through Europe at the power of Rome in it's treatment of Gallileo, and King Henry 4th of Germany. Was that right? It was thought so at the time. The reaction of Catholicism to the Protestant Reformation and then the persecution that followed. Of course the Protestants weren't much better. Elizabeth and Mary, both queens of England, one Protestant the other Catholic, both had their revenge on the enemy. So where is the Ultra Right with a president who truely believes in divine intervention taking the world? http://www.beliefnet.com/story/121/story_12112.html It's hard to believe that's the same George W. Bush. Since taking office -- and especially in the last couple weeks -- Bush's personal faith has turned highly public, arguably more so than any modern President. What's important is not that Bush is talking about God more, but that he's talking about him differently. We are witnessing a shift in Bush's theology--from talking mostly about a Wesleyan theology of "personal transformation" to describing a Calvinist "divine plan" laid out by a sovereign God for the country and himself. This shift has the potential to affect Bush's approach to terrorism, Iraq and his presidency. Maybe our forefathers really did want a separation of church and state... history taught them that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #23 November 14, 2003 Well, I see how it works now.... So when someone posted a poll taken on what Channels for news they watched, and then if they thought SH was connected to 9/11. That poll was OK. But when a poll which you don't agree with is taken, it must be bogus.... I get it. Chris ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #24 November 14, 2003 http://www.gallup.com/subscription/?m=f&c_id=13968 OK so I was wrong... 14% say it is to Conservative vs. 45% say it was too liberal. So, Majority rules. But Kallend will tell you you are an idiot if you believe it. But hey, Kallend is in the 14% bracket. I guess he isn't the one in the know. However, these liberal crazies I am sure will come up with some logic as to why this poll is wrong and why the media is actually right leaning... So, let it begin ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #25 November 14, 2003 From a gallup poll in 2000. (Link To a web site below): Some Conclusions: 68% of republicans felt there was a media bias. 28% of republicans felt there was no bias. 40% Democrats felt there was a bias 49% democrats...No bias. "Democrats were much less likely to perceive Bias" Why??? (IMO) If the media is bias toward the left, and your views happen to be slightly left, it makes it difficult for you to realize there is a bias. Mainly because you and the media tend to agree more in ideology. "The researchers used telephone interviews with a randomly selected national sample of 1,012 adults, 18 years and older, conducted December 2-4, 2000. Gallup said that for results based on this sample, one could say with 95 percent confidence that the maximum error attributable to sampling and other random effects was plus or minus 4 percentage points. Gallup asked in 2000: "Which comes closer to your opinion: that the news media generally favor one political party over the other, or that the news media generally favor neither political party?" http://www.tvrundown.com/polbroka.htm ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites