Deuce 1 #1 November 19, 2003 And so we are, maggots, so BTFU. http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/146189|top|11-18-2003::16:44|reuters.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #2 November 19, 2003 QuoteAnd so we are, maggots, so BTFU. http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/146189|top|11-18-2003::16:44|reuters.html Your link says: "Bush Arrives in Britain Amid Anti-War Anger ". Ok, but what does that have to do with 62% of anything? Have you been at the tequila?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
testpilot 0 #3 November 19, 2003 It may be 62% of American or Brits. There is no way 62% of the rest of the world thinks America is doing any good using force to over through governments on the other side of the world. There is only one evil nation that has repeatedly used weapons of mass destruction. Dave D830 http://www.skydiving.co.za Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samhussey 0 #4 November 19, 2003 In a recent poll over here, it saidn that just over 60% think Bush is a threat to world security, and about 40%(ish) think he's stupid. I'm sure they've got nothing against the rest of you though! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #5 November 19, 2003 QuoteQuoteAnd so we are, maggots, so BTFU. http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/146189|top|11-18-2003::16:44|reuters.html Your link says: "Bush Arrives in Britain Amid Anti-War Anger ". Ok, but what does that have to do with 62% of anything? Have you been at the tequila? Red wine. It's in the body of the article. Yeah it is Britain. I think a lot of the "anger" is trumped up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #6 November 19, 2003 QuoteQuoteQuoteAnd so we are, maggots, so BTFU. http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/146189|top|11-18-2003::16:44|reuters.html Your link says: "Bush Arrives in Britain Amid Anti-War Anger ". Ok, but what does that have to do with 62% of anything? Have you been at the tequila? Red wine. It's in the body of the article. Yeah it is Britain. I think a lot of the "anger" is trumped up. Well, 62% of the Brits I know are living in the USA already.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #7 November 19, 2003 Don't forget the Aussies, Kiwis, and Canucks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #8 November 19, 2003 AMEN... you cant use that artickle to shit.. it would be like asking muslims if they think USA were bad.. now guess the answer... go ask a wider population than just the allied in the backyard Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #9 November 19, 2003 Evil nation that has repeatedly used weapons of mass destruction? Sure, the US used atomic bombs twice within a couple of days of each other. Some 58 years ago. Why not go back 90 years to WWI, when countries all over Europe were gasing other troops in battle? Perhaps you are the type who believes that America should be grateful to Britain that it held on so long in World War II, and that the evil Americans should have entered the war back in 1939, while Britain was still busy with "appeasement." Of course, the Germans did not attack American soil, so it was probably evil for America to take its quarrels with Japan over to Europe. We had no business fighting with Italy and Germany, right? They didn't do anything to us except kill a few thousand merchant marines bringing food, water, fuel, ammunition, raw materials, etc. to England for ther assistance. Is your position that America was evil for entering WWII in the European theater? Is it your position that America was also evil for waiting too long to enter WWII? Heck, maybe it is your position that America started it with that poor dupe Japan. Of course, I could be wrong. Listen, I am not condoning the war Iraq. I don't believe it was the best decision to enter that conflict. But I wouldn't say America is "Evil" for going in. If that were the case, you can also point the finger at Jolly Ol' Blighty. Are you willing to do that and say that Britain is an evil country? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #10 November 19, 2003 Quote...There is no way 62% of the rest of the world thinks America is doing any good using force to over through governments on the other side of the world. There is only one evil nation that has repeatedly used weapons of mass destruction. Crap testpilot, my usual comeback is "don't like it, get the *&%$ out."...but you're already out...I'd have to actually think to slam on this one...nope, I can't do it. I am too sick to use the ole' noodle. Egg me on next week after the drugs run their course. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harksaw 0 #11 November 19, 2003 This is a pointless survey. If only things were so easy to divide between "good" and "evil". Is it so hard to believe that an entity could be doing a combination of good and evil?__________________________________________________ I started skydiving for the money and the chicks. Oh, wait. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #12 November 19, 2003 I am very, very good. And when I'm evil, I'm even better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Designer 0 #13 November 19, 2003 At the exact point when the Commander and Chief lied to the general public about why he was invading Irag I began to get pissed.Now, 87 Billion to fix our F***k-Up makes me want to invade the white house and kick the living shit out of the bastard.So,you tell me what good is going to come out of this(this year),next year,5 years form now and 10 years from now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #14 November 19, 2003 Quoteto fix our F***k-Up Thank you. Last time I called the Irak invasion a fuck up, lots of people got real offended by that. Nice to see another American with a critical eye (not that I am an american, but you're not alone).Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #15 November 19, 2003 Read your WWII history a bit dude. Focus on Bataan and Nanking for starters, then read a bit about the island hopping in the Pacific in WWII. Tarawa might be a good place to start your search in that arena. After educating yourself a bit, speak with a Bataan survivor or two at your local VFW or American Legion then rethink your opinions once again. Your evil nation comment is both ludicrous and unfounded.Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taz 0 #16 November 19, 2003 The polls don't mean anything, because people who could really tell you what America is up to in the rest of the world aren't listed in the telephone book for pollsters to call. Having recently returned from the Kenya-Somali border, I will say that the US has a growing military presence in Africa. They deny it in official statements, but I have seen the new military base in northeastern Kenya and it's not just a "refueling station." US taxpayer money is funding the training and arming of local militias in East Africa to supposedly combat Al Qaeda cells in Somalia; but since the US has little clue about Somali clan structures and the true ties of various militia leaders, it's leading only to further ethnic conflict in the region. Arming warlords is never the answer, yet the US is doing it not just in Afghanistan but in Africa as well. People on the ground are starving and being brutalized by repressive power brokers, the illegal gun trade is thriving, and the media is somewhere else. It's impossible to make a judgment on whether America is "good" or "evil" without a broader perspective on what it is doing. And considering how few people know about the details "on the ground", I would guess that kind of perspective isn't coming any time soon. I'm not a journalist, but if I was I'd also bet that no major newspaper would want to carry my stories, even with photo evidence. By the way, my observations have been confirmed by an independent UN team of investigators, but the report may not be released publicly. It's never just about Iraq, or about being patriotic. I'm as American as they come but I have the experience to know the truth is never in the media or coming out of George Bush's mouth. -TIt's the Year of the Dragon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #17 November 19, 2003 Quote Of course, the Germans did not attack American soil, so it was probably evil for America to take its quarrels with Japan over to Europe. We had no business fighting with Italy and Germany, right? Ahem... Germany declared war on the United States on December 8, 1941 in a speech given by Hitler to the Reichstag. The US did not declare war on Germany and Italy.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #18 November 19, 2003 Ahem... It was December 11, 1941 that Hitler made his Reichstag speech declaring war, and not December 8. He only did that after Japan attacked, thinking he'd climb aboard. And yes, the Germans were actively sinking US Merchant ships in Operation Paukenschlag. Interestingly enough, the American public really wasn't much into buying the war on Germany, either. FDR had been building up the Atlantic fleet because he wanted war with America. Then heit up more because of the merchant ship bloodbath. So Frank Capra made the "Why We Fight" films as propoganda to convince Americans that Germany needed to be defeated. So, to that extent you are correct that Germany declared war on us (three days after you said - still that is but a trifle to your main point, which is valid). And you are also correct that the US did not declare war on Germany and Italy. The parallels to this situation are close. I rarely hear anyone stating that WWII was not justified. p.s. I was always against this Iraq stuff... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #19 November 19, 2003 Yup, and UBL declared war on the USA. Too bad the President at the time didn't take it too seriously. What kills me how soooo many people will just dismiss a poll they don't like. But when there is one they do like they are all over it like flies on shit. This happens on both sides, but I am sorry to say I see it happen much more on the left. They make a statement pull some poll with a link out of their ass and move on. Someone shows a poll which supports the US and all of a sudden you hear. "It is skewed, it can't be right... No way" I am leaving these stupid forums .... Like sniveling little kids around here. Chris - ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #20 November 20, 2003 QuoteAhem... So, to that extent you are correct that Germany declared war on us (three days after you said - still that is but a trifle to your main point, which is valid). ... Did you account for the time difference? There was no transAtlantic air travel in 1941, time had to go by ship.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #21 November 20, 2003 Well, kallend, I happen to know that if anyone cold pull a fast one on the space time continuum (I learned that term from Back to the Future - one of the bes documentaries ever made) I'm sure you could do it. But, I still don't know if it is possible to pass a message three days before it was made. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #22 November 20, 2003 QuoteWell, kallend, I happen to know that if anyone cold pull a fast one on the space time continuum (I learned that term from Back to the Future - one of the bes documentaries ever made) I'm sure you could do it. Quite true. I'm much younger now than I was before my divorce.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
