Jimbo 0 #1 November 26, 2003 http://www.themeatrix.com/ Interesting propaganda. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kai2k1 0 #2 November 26, 2003 ummm yeahhh There's no truer sense of flying than sky diving," Scott Cowan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jib 0 #3 November 26, 2003 [Homer] Ummmm, steak, ummmm [/Homer] -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #4 November 26, 2003 Quote http://www.themeatrix.com/ Interesting propaganda. - Jim Sounds to me like e vegetarian put this together. I love meat. Nice bloody, juicy red meat!!!!!!7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #5 November 26, 2003 QuoteI love meat. Nice bloody, juicy red meat!!!!!! Amen to that! - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FliegendeWolf 0 #6 November 26, 2003 Regardless of one's paticular opinion on factory farming, I think it was a very clever short.A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #7 November 26, 2003 >Sounds to me like e vegetarian put this together. I love meat. Nice > bloody, juicy red meat!!!!!! As they were advocating buying meat from family farms I sorta doubt it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #8 November 26, 2003 It wasn't anti-meat at all. I t was anti "Factory Farm" I'm down with that. West Germany used to have some of the best pork in the world. Why....because it was grown on small family farms. The size was heavily regulated by the government. When the wall came down the factory farms from East Germany took over and it hasn't been the same since. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #9 November 26, 2003 >Sounds to me like e vegetarian put this together. I seriously doubt it. It is more small family farm type of advertising. Coming from a community that had a factory chicken farm move in, lets just say I don't look at food the same after seeing how they ran the operation.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #10 November 26, 2003 Quote>Sounds to me like e vegetarian put this together. I love meat. Nice > bloody, juicy red meat!!!!!! As they were advocating buying meat from family farms I sorta doubt it. You are right....I just had to pick on the vegetarians (not cause I have anything against them, but becasue they are yet another group of people I can pick on )7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeremyneas 0 #11 November 26, 2003 I'm a meatatarian, I don't believe in the senseless slaughter of innocent plants. To make the effort, and go to those particular stores and pay inflated prices for meat that supports small farms which would probably make you sick for a short while due to the missing 'drugs and such', doesn't seem in my best interest. What these propaganda...people don't want you to consider is....shhhhh...come closer...closer...closer... closer... closer... THE POPULATION IS RISING So what your saying is... More people...need more food. Farmers just barely getting by, need to save money. We found a solution...and their answer is to produce less food with smaller farms. I'm totally baffled by it. Someone enlighten me!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #12 November 26, 2003 >To make the effort, and go to those particular stores and pay > inflated prices for meat that supports small farms which would > probably make you sick for a short while due to the missing 'drugs > and such', doesn't seem in my best interest. Actually, the "drugs and such" in your food will sicken you, not make you better. Bovine hormones have sort of unpredictable results on humans, and getting constant low doses of antibiotics makes the bacteria in your body immune to antibiotics. Would suck to get pneumonia, only to find out that antibiotics don't work on you any more, eh? >We found a solution...and their answer is to produce less food with smaller farms. You can produce more food with factory farms, but you also then have to deal with antibiotics in your food (which has a _lot_ of problems) a higher incidence of food-borne disease, and higher rates of sickness and mortality from fecal matter in your water. So unless you're into fecal matter in your water, there's something to be said for smaller farms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #13 November 26, 2003 Propaganda, yes, but also not untrue, many places throughout the world factory farm. Very good SWF thoughYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #14 November 26, 2003 Hey thanks for the clip, it reminded me I need to buy so hot dogs, bacon and steaks. __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quack 0 #15 November 26, 2003 Antibiotic use is regulated in food animals. If residues are found that exceed the Maximum Residual Levels (MRL) then those animals do not enter the food chain. I'm not personally an advocate of antibiotic use in animals, for the reasons of antimicrobial resistance. But given that it is a practice of producers of food animals at least there are procedures in place to deal with it. But you have to understand, mental illness is like cholesterol. There is the good kind and the bad. Without the good kind- less flavor to life. - Serge A. Storms Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #16 November 26, 2003 >If residues are found that exceed the Maximum Residual Levels >(MRL) then those animals do not enter the food chain. Right, but even legal amounts increase antibiotic resistance in humans. For example, the use of the antibiotic avoparcin in food animals has been linked to the appearance of vancomycin-resistant enterococci in human intestines. This is particularly troubling because vanc is the "last ditch" antibiotic doctors use when no other antibiotic will work. Getting sick with a vanc-resistant strain of something can be deadly (literally.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quack 0 #17 November 26, 2003 Yes, and that is why avoparcin is not used in most countries (except Australia, and that may change soon). VRE is certainly a major concern, but let's not forget the contributions of the general public who demand antibiotics for what is usually a viral infection. And the irresponsible physicians who prescribe them. A lot of research is being done on antimicrobial resistance (AMR) in food animals for this reason. Unfortunately it takes more time sort it out than it took for us to create AMR problems in the first place. But you have to understand, mental illness is like cholesterol. There is the good kind and the bad. Without the good kind- less flavor to life. - Serge A. Storms Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyDave 0 #18 November 26, 2003 QuoteI'm a meatatarian, I don't believe in the senseless slaughter of innocent plants. Quote hehe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing