vonSanta 0 #1 December 1, 2003 Yes, a hypothetical question for you all. Let's say there's this dude in Denmark who needs a product from the US. The US is outside the EU, which means he'd have to pay the price of the product plus 25% sales tax. Hypotethically, of course. 25% yes; the virtues of living in a welfare state. Now, he'd only have to do so if the Tax Man knew the package was a product purchased in the US. Usually there's a label on the outside of the package, or the delivery company deals with it directly and you then pay them. But if this is not the case, The Tax Man is quite smart and will actually open packages he's suspicious about and try to find a receipt - and then tax your arse 25%. This has happened before to one dude in Denmark. Maybe. Now in this strictly hypotethical situation , I was wondering if you could find some flaws with the following suggestion for beating the Tax Man and saving 25% of the cost. 1) Order the stuff, have it sent to someone trustworthy in the US 2) Trustworthy person opens package, removes receipt, puts product into new non descript package and sends it to hypotethical Danish dude for, say, 10% of the products value (gotta give Yankees an incentive since they're Capitalistic Imperialistic PigDogs and all that). 3) Trustworthy PigDog sends receipt separately in a normal letter. 4) Profit and laugh evilly. If this would work, a hypotethical Danish dude wouldn't have to freeze his hypotethical arse off due to not being able to afford a pair of hypotethical Cargopants from Tonysuits. The only problem I see so far is the "trustworthy PigDog". Are there any more potential problems I am missing in this most "oh just for the sake of the conversation, let's assume" type of discussion? . Oh and I in no way condone trying to evade paying taxes to the whiny stuck up bloodsucking leeches who think they know better than me how I should spend my money no good communist Tax People buggers. I'm merely entertaining a thought here Santa Von GrossenArsch I only come in one flavour ohwaitthatcanbemisunderst Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vocii 0 #2 December 1, 2003 Thanks for hanging up on me. Typical lack of consideration. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #3 December 1, 2003 Some people have found that it costs $700 US for a round trip ticket to the US. Buy a new rig, stay for 8 weeks, jump it, take it home. Some say it saves money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonSanta 0 #4 December 1, 2003 Yeah, that's what some would do if they ordered a new rig. but this hypotethical dude is just buying a pair of FF pants, so the cost of going to the US would be proibitive. Santa Von GrossenArsch I only come in one flavour ohwaitthatcanbemisunderst Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Girlfalldown 0 #5 December 1, 2003 There's a double ship charge you have to think about. First shipping to someone in the US then shipping it to someone in Denmark. Might not be worth it. -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vocii 0 #6 December 1, 2003 Thanks for being a gentleman, as always. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #7 December 1, 2003 QuoteThanks for being a gentleman, as always. Me thinks there's another stalker loose on the forums. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n2skdvn 0 #8 December 1, 2003 QuoteMe thinks there's another stalker loose on the forums. Ya thinkif my calculations are correct SLINKY + ESCULATOR = EVERLASTING FUN my site Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonSanta 0 #9 December 1, 2003 QuoteThere's a double ship charge you have to think about. First shipping to someone in the US then shipping it to someone in Denmark. Might not be worth it. Yeah, but the first shipment is included in the price of the product. Cargopants with the options the hypotethical individual wants are $160 or so. 25% of that is $40. It should be possible to find someone that'll ship it for less, no? Santa Von GrossenArsch I only come in one flavour ohwaitthatcanbemisunderst Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Girlfalldown 0 #10 December 1, 2003 yes you can have it shipped for less then $40 but it seems like a lot of trouble to save what...like $20? I wouldn't waste my time. -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonSanta 0 #11 December 1, 2003 Well, If I could trick the Tax Man... Being a libertarian in Socialist Heaven is such a hard thing, you know. I feel I must resort to guerilla tactics that "threaten the common good of the subje...err, 'citizens'", so I might be (hypotethically speaking still) be forced due to ideological reasons to take the necessary action and thwart the spreading of Communism throughout the world. Hm you're right though. All the trouble for might not be worth it. “The best laid schemes o’ mice an’ men / Gang aft a-gley.”. Oh well. Santa Von GrossenArsch I only come in one flavour ohwaitthatcanbemisunderst Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wlie 0 #12 December 1, 2003 Let me tell you how it will be There's one for you, nin'teen for me Cause I'm the tax man Yea I'm the tax man Should five percent appear too small Be thankful I don't take it all Cause I'm the tax man Yea I'm the tax man If you drive a car-car I'll tax the street If you try to sit-sit I'll tax your seat If you get too cold I'll tax the heat If you take a walk I'll tax your feet Tax man Well I'm the tax man Yea I'm the tax man Don't ask me what I want it for If you don't want to pay some more Cause I'm the tax man Yea I'm the tax man Now my advice for those who die (tax man) Declare the pennies on your eyes (tax man) Cause I'm the tax man Yea I'm the tax man And you're working for no one but me (Tax man) My other ride is the relative wind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #13 December 1, 2003 hypothetical you could just buy it as you would normaly,then pay the 25%tax,plu s5 more(read the paperes proberly young man,then when this guy recive the pack he pays his tax,but hypothetical desides its a pair of ugly pants he wants,so he ships them back,plus get his tax back,now they might look at the pack as it goes in,but never as it goes out,therefore,that guy should just hypothetical claim that he returned the ff pants(which unfortanuly were another pair of old unuseless pants) and show the resipt. on it.. The compagny would think the guy were crazy(wich he is)through away the ugly pair of "ff pants" he returned... do you hypothetical get it? Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #14 December 1, 2003 loard of hypothetical DK pals travels to US all the time,why dont you hypothetical ask them to bring them home?that would cost you a beer or so Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frodo 0 #15 December 1, 2003 QuoteHm you're right though. All the trouble for might not be worth it. “The best laid schemes o’ mice an’ men / Gang aft a-gley.”. Oh well.It IS worth it even if you don't save a single penny on the whole op... Just to have the satisfaction of beating the Man, if only in a small battle By the way, assuming that the hypothetical man sticks to the plan: can anyone think of a way to sort of skip the middle man? Say, ship to some dummy location, and then provide the shipping agency with the correct address. Sumn like that. I dunno, haven't given it any serious thought yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frodo 0 #16 December 1, 2003 Quoteloard of hypothetical DK pals travels to US all the time,why dont you hypothetical ask them to bring them home?that would cost you a beer or soA hypothetical beer or real? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #17 December 1, 2003 QuoteA hypothetical beer or real? hypothetical beer for hypothetical deals,real beers for real deals But as he is from up north,i will guess it will cost him a case of beer Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonSanta 0 #18 December 2, 2003 Bah, us northerners are the REAL Danes. Those from Sjaelland/Fyn are reserve-Swedes and the southerners are really Germans in disguise. And you all talk funny. I'll try to forget this if the hypothetical dude brings me my FF pants, however. Know anyone that's going Faber? The hypothetical Danish dude would have to go to Zephyrhills to pick up the hypothetical pants. Unless they can be delivered elsewhere somehow. He'd get a hypotethical case of beer for the trouble And yeah, that tax song is so bloody right Santa Von GrossenArsch I only come in one flavour ohwaitthatcanbemisunderst Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
souleh 0 #19 December 2, 2003 Well, in this british persons dreams (this isn't real, right?), he has a few friends in the US. Those friends order stuff for him and send them as presents. No US export tax, no UK import tax. Just the price + the postage. This british guy then sends American friend a bit of cash / few pints and the postage, and all is well. Next time you're dreaming.. try it? 'buttplugs? where?' - geno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #20 December 2, 2003 i might know one but cant say his name.. but try ask the same Q on a big DK forum,and im sure you´ll get responce Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #21 December 2, 2003 QuoteIt IS worth it even if you don't save a single penny on the whole op... Just to have the satisfaction of beating the Man, if only in a small battle Intaxication: Euphoria at getting a tax refund, which lasts until you realize it was your money to start with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #22 December 2, 2003 Your friend could always just ask TonySuits to send it as a repair or alteration. As in, hypothetically: The pants already belonged to him; He sent them to Tonysuits to let them out or something. And now they are sending them back. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
