themitchyone 0 #1 December 13, 2003 A guy at my work was telling me that he heard of a tandem jumper who became detached from the tandem-master and fell to her death (not necessarily a recent event). Seems creepy and disturbing. I've done searches here at DZ.com and on the Internet and haven't found anything like this. Does anyone know anything about an incident like this or if it is an urban myth? p.s. Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but I didn't think that the Incidents forum was necessarily appropriate."If the Bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasn't, it's that girls should stick to girl's sports such as hot oil wrestling and foxy boxing." - Homer Simpson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kai2k1 0 #2 December 13, 2003 I think its an urban legend. Ive never heard of it. There's no truer sense of flying than sky diving," Scott Cowan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinghonu 0 #3 December 13, 2003 That BETTER be an urban legend - have never heard of anything like that before either. "Excuse me while I kiss the sky..." - Jimi Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #4 December 13, 2003 Well that would suck, but I've never heard of such a thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #5 December 13, 2003 Look at: http://www.relativeworkshop.com/tandem/taninfo_fatalities.html Plus there have been tandem deaths on other manufactors gear thats not on the list. Side spins = black death Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #6 December 13, 2003 What are side spins? -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usedtajump 1 #7 December 13, 2003 QuoteWhat are side spins? A spin that develops, primarily on tandem jumps, when a pair gets into a side to earth position prior to drouge release and the spin that is generated gets so intense, so quick that it is almost unrecoverable. Real sobering occurance, check out the Strong Tandem Certification video (at least the one from 1996), you'd think you were looking at a helicopter rotor they're spinning so fast..... all the way to the ground. NASTY, NASTY.The older I get the less I care who I piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base283 0 #8 December 13, 2003 Quote check out the Strong Tandem Certification video (at least the one from 1996), you'd think you were looking at a helicopter rotor they're spinning so fast..... all the way to the ground. NASTY, NASTY. My memory of that video is of Bill Morrisey and passenger doing I think 19 revolutions before deploying the drogue and stabilizing. "All the way to the ground" was not on the video that Bill showed me. Albeit it was before `96, did they gruess it (video) up or what? did anyone else see this? take care space Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #9 December 13, 2003 They show a side spin on the video now that happened in Europe that was a fatility. The TM and passenger just dissappear from sight and it fades to black but they talk about how it was fatal. They also show the one with Bill and how to get into them and out of them. Bill's was not a sidespin for a long time and the drouge could have been tossed we decided in my class, but its understandable waiting that extra second to be sure you are 100% stable. Solo sidespins are a lot of fun to play with, thoughts of tandem sidespins leave me in cold sweats at night. Tandems are not just another skydive... ever!Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #10 December 13, 2003 QuoteQuoteWhat are side spins? A spin that develops, primarily on tandem jumps, when a pair gets into a side to earth position prior to drouge release and the spin that is generated gets so intense, so quick that it is almost unrecoverable. Real sobering occurance, check out the Strong Tandem Certification video (at least the one from 1996), you'd think you were looking at a helicopter rotor they're spinning so fast..... all the way to the ground. NASTY, NASTY. Do you have a link to this video you're talking about? Or is there even one? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FunBobby 0 #11 December 13, 2003 I seem to remember reading in Parachutist last year that there were instances where students, after opening, began to slip out of their harnesses - quick thinking and quick reactions on the part of the jumpmasters saved the students. I seem to remember the the manufacturer of the harness issuing a advisory bulletin... Sound familiar, anyone? FunBobby Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #12 December 13, 2003 >Do you have a link to this video you're talking about? Or is there even one? No link and one will never be published. The only way to see the video is to sit down with a Tandem Examiner and watch the video.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #13 December 13, 2003 Quote>Do you have a link to this video you're talking about? Or is there even one? No link and one will never be published. The only way to see the video is to sit down with a Tandem Examiner and watch the video. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a copy of Strong Enterprises' Tandem Side Spin video and you are welcome to borrow it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #14 December 13, 2003 Never heard of it. I did my first tandem jump in 1984 and became a tandem instructor in 1986. There have been a few cases of T/Is forgetting to attach shoulder hooks (hip hooks still worked fine) and there have been a couple cases of tandem students ALMOST slipping out of harnesses .... but no-one has ever LOST a tandem student. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murps2000 86 #15 December 13, 2003 QuoteNo link and one will never be published. The only way to see the video is to sit down with a Tandem Examiner and watch the video. Let's hope that never gets out. You can be sure it would be on RealTV before the end of the day. I don't even think anyone but a prospective tandem candidate needs to see it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #16 December 13, 2003 > I seem to remember reading in Parachutist last year that there were >instances where students, after opening, began to slip out of their >harnesses . . . Happened to me once. A very small and flexible asian woman jumped with us. Even with the harness set on small, the legstraps started riding down to her knees, and the cheststrap started riding up and got to her throat. Me and the other JM saw it and grabbed the MLW's and the legstraps and forced them together, keeping her completely in the harness. I was reserve side, and after she pulled I rotated her upright and hung on for as long as I could. Her canopy ride was uneventful, although she could barely see over the chest strap. I'm not sure if she would have fallen out or not. I didn't want to find out. Afterwards we bought a tiny Telesis with a Tri-190 for small students. That worked out pretty well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
