An attack that could rival or exceed 9/11

[juanesky 0]

I understand and feel the same. Not every muslim is a muslim.

There are many that have actual flaws, ie: substance abusers, say Mr. Limbaugh, but even he is entitled to have his opinions respected.

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

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ROTFLMAO.. maybe you should get a sign and stand on the street corner like the rest of the doomsayers have been doing for the last 2000 years..

My God what a nasty turn!

Would you say that Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and Robert Mueller should stand on the street corner too? Please! one reference to personal beleif and you jump on it like that? The point of the post is... another attack is likely to occur and the professionals on the matter (not the ranting lunatics) predict that it's unpreventable.

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Or perhaps you should remove your blinders and check your 'biblical history'
so you'll understand the writers you refer to thought they were living in 'end times' too when they wrote their lovely fictional accounts..and they’ve been dust for 2000 years now too, while the world progresses on..

Or perhaps its just that as you get older you start the think/wish the world will end when your life does? but guess what? it wont. it will go on and on as it has for the last several billion years or so no matter what your continually edited, ignorant, short-sighted, culturally biased, dogma might profess to the contrary....

wishes people could see GOD does not share the prejudices and preconceptions of MAN so blatantly obvious in what the 'rightous' tout as 'his word'


Happy holidays! (whichever holiday you enjoy, not simply the one the christians have preempted in an attempt to gain credibility by usurping the mythos of others)

Wow... that's it... just wow.

btw, the Bible is full of prophecies... much "Biblical History" occurs after having been writen.

My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

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Would you say that Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and Robert Mueller should stand on the street corner too?

If they started using biblical prophecies to prove it, yeah. It's not like any of THEM claim that god told them to invade Iraq.

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Would you say that Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and Robert Mueller should stand on the street corner too?

If they started using biblical prophecies to prove it, yeah. It's not like any of THEM claim that god told them to invade Iraq.

Which biblical propehcies did chuteless use?
Also, "prove it", did he?... with a this ghost prophecy?

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....but for many biblical reasons I do not think the nuclear attack will take place until 2005 or 2006. However, I am absolutely sure it WILL take place.

Proof: n 1: any factual evidence that helps to establish the truth of
something

Opinion: n 1: a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof

This falls under "opinion" and was stated as such.

It irks me so much how people jump on the little things in a post get nasty and off topic... chuteless provided three quotes from profesionals on the matter stating that another attack is likely to come... he threw in his personal beleifs (and indicated that they were based on religion) and now the post is garbage? He's a religious fanatic that should be rantin' and raving on a street corner? He should be compared to "THEM" who claim that god told them to invade Iraq?

That's just plain mean-spirited... why don't you make fun of his clothes... or his jump numbers or something?

Nick

My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

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I agree with all three of them, but for many biblical reasons I do not think the nuclear attack will take place until 2005 or 2006.

Hey Chuteless, what's the biblical connection to 2005/06? I'm curious about why you think this.

Yeah pray-tell. I too am interested.

My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

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Let me take a stab at this, As it stands right now OBL perpetuated the 9/11 attack and got away with it.

You want this guy for no other reason than to send the message you can't pull this shit and walk.period!

Mean while back at the ranch, jackoff George is running around Iraq looking for his ass with both hands and a flashlight.

In April of this year, the terrorist who hijacked the Achille Lauro was captured in Bagdad. In 1985, he shot and killed a man in a wheelchair. The man was with his wife of 36 years. He was being "difficult". This terrorist also planned speedboat attacks on the beaches in Tel Aviv in the 90s. His capture prevented future attacks.

The SuperGun that Iraq was building was a WMD. Do a search for it and the designer Gerald Bull. It's design was clearly to be used to lift a small object into low-orbit (80km). The destruction of this gun prevented future terrorist attacks and destabilization of the region.

OK I.m going to BTFU on my meanwhile back at the ranch comment, that was unnecessary, sorry my bad.

I would agree that there is a lot of good work going on in Iraq and yes it can only help bring stability to the region.

OTOH if anyone can get their hands on a WMD and put in place it's going to be OBL, who to date has a proven track record and the means to pull it off.

The guy that cuts loose the first WMD on us will have virgins coming out his ass so there will be no shortage of volunteers.

blue skies

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OK I.m going to BTFU on my meanwhile back at the ranch comment, that was unnecessary, sorry my bad.

Classy - Wouldn't it be wierd if we could eliminate personal attacks on the forum - And not just for posters, but for anybody (I'll even try to do it myself where Hillary is involved. And that's tough for me.) It's really hard for people to say they disagree with a public figure without calling names, but it sure makes it easier to listen to their reasoning.....

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

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If any terrorist even TRIES to delay my arrival at the Eloy boogie, god help them, cuz I'm gonna kick their ASS.

Wrong Way
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The wiser wolf prevails.

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OK I.m going to BTFU on my meanwhile back at the ranch comment, that was unnecessary, sorry my bad.

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OTOH if anyone can get their hands on a WMD and put in place it's going to be OBL, who to date has a proven track record and the means to pull it off.

To do that, you need:
1-cash
2-a place to buy it.
3-people to take it somewhere.
4-transport

He has cash, some of the old USSR states for a place. Lots of volunteers.

A WMD doesn't have to get close.

The US navy tested an aerosol delivery system off the back of a boat on the Calif coast years ago. Made a couple of dozen people sick.

A nuke in a boat in a harbor would do the same.

Actually getting something in the country. Hey, I live in Florida. 300 miles of coastline and a smugglers wet dream for the past 400 years.

We need to catch that rascal quick.

[chuteless 1]

Glad to know there is interest out there in skydiverland.

For what you may think of it, My father began a very dedicated and comprehensive study of God's WORD about the time I was born (71 yrs ago). When he died in 1961, I got his papers and relevant data, and took up where he left off.

I know its hard to impress something on people who do not wish to believe it, but it is the most in depth study I have ever seen, and proves beyond the slightest doubt that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and exactly who the Bible says he is.

To go into a 70+ year study on DZ.com and sum it up like a smap of the fingers would be impossible, and I ask that you understand that fact.

However, the prophecies of those who God gave spiritual understanding to, have come true for them all, except for tjhose relating to the end of days, such as found in Jeremiah, Daniel and of course, the Book of Revelation which describes much of what is yet to come.

The war In Iraq and Afghanistan has been foretold more than 2000 years ago, and it s coming true just like the Bible says it would.

George W. Bush will be the last President the United States of America will ever have, and that too, is foretold in the Bible,very definitely!!!!

I wont go into what will happen to the USA, because when people dont wish to believe something, they will flat out refuse to..

I'm not trying to rattle anyone's chain here, but I DO know the Bible,m and what it says. Its not MY personal interpretation, but a clear detailed account of whats coming, and it was written BY GOD, through men who were moved by the Holy Spirit of God.

If you cannot understand that, then all the explanations I could give for the next 1000 years ( if the world had that long) will never satisfy.

I would dearly love to sit down wih any of you, and explain as much as I could in a couple of hours, but I'll not likely ever get that chance.

Many of you w9ish to use this topic as some sort of joke, and thats your perogative, but I assure you, there will be severe changes in this world and how it is going to destruction in the next while.

Islamic terrorists will not stop their hatred of America and Israel, until they have rendered both impotent.

The Bible tells about the USA, Russia, China, England, North Korea and many countries that did not exist when the Bible was written. Its all there for those who wish to study it, and I and my father have done so for a very long time. Our findings are not a joke, but a very serious study of God's design for this world that He created, and which man is on the verge of destroying.


I hope all no believers have a great CHRISTmas. Just remember, every time you wish someone a Merry CHRISTmas, or give a gift at CHRISTmas, or celeebrate in any way, you ARE acknowledging the birth of God's Son, and that He is born to rule this world. Thanks for that.

Best wishes to everyone, and may God take your heart to Himself.

Bill Cole

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proves beyond the slightest doubt that Jesus Christ is the Son of God

That cannot be proven. You can't use the supposed word of god to prove existence of same. If you start with faulty data, your results are skewed. Or did he use the original greek versions of the bible which no longer exist?

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George W. Bush will be the last President the United States of America will ever have, and that too, is foretold in the Bible,very definitely!!!!

What chapter and verse is that?

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I wont go into what will happen to the USA, because when people dont wish to believe something, they will flat out refuse to..

Or maybe they refuse to believe in unfounded delusions.

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I hope all no believers have a great CHRISTmas. Just remember, every time you wish someone a Merry CHRISTmas, or give a gift at CHRISTmas, or celeebrate in any way, you ARE acknowledging the birth of God's Son, and that He is born to rule this world.

No, I'm being polite and following a tradition that was actually started by Pagans.

I don't usually put down other people's beliefs, except when they try to tell me that their beliefs rule me. That's what radical muslims, and radical christians do.

[billvon 3,096]

>Just remember, every time you wish someone a Merry CHRISTmas,
> or give a gift at CHRISTmas, or celeebrate in any way, you ARE
> acknowledging the birth of God's Son, and that He is born to rule
> this world.

No more so than someone who celebrates Halloween acknowledges the strength of pagan undead spirits. The original Halloween was a Celtic ritual to defend one's home and farm from the undead.

[goose491 0]

Have we met?

Ever jump at Joes? ... Burnaby?

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To go into a 70+ year study on DZ.com and sum it up like a smap of the fingers would be impossible, and I ask that you understand that fact.

PM me then... email me then... I've got nothing but time.

My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

[Zenister 0]

made your sign yet??

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George W. Bush will be the last President the United States of America will ever have, and that too, is foretold in the Bible,very definitely!!!!

OK how about you put your money where your mouth is then??

if you really believe that, then how about you agree to sell everything you own (and everything you've otherwise willed to your descendants oh wait..do you even have a will? why? doesnt that indicate a lack of faith about your expressed belief?) and donate the proceeds to the dropzone of your choice, when we elect a president after Bush (in 2004 or 2008 depending) and another after that??

after all its only material items and you and your children wont be needing them after the world ends now will you? [I](its amazing how everyone who proselytizes this exact view on TV asks for money to sell their tapes and books..what good will money do you as the world ends?? I guess God still needs a Porsche and has asked you to drive it??)[/I]

so as soon as you amend your will to that effect i'll believe you actually have the strength of your convictions, (after all win or lose we will have another president besides Bush after 2008, and perhaps even 2004, so we wont have to wait to long to see who’s right here) but somehow i doubt you will, you'll find some lame excuse, just as every other prophet who cries the sky is falling has, when the appointed date passes with nary a whimper.

most every individual i've encountered with 'such strong religious convictions' backs down when push really comes to shove, so put up or shut up.

I have to wonder if you were counting on 2000 before that date passed too ???

so do you believe what you say or are you merely posturing on the web??

BTW i'd love to see your 'proof', it would be fun to pick it apart, given the obvious holes in the source material it wouldnt be very difficult at all..but of course as your belief clouds your reason you would continue to argue the sky isnt blue, no matter how much real, verifiable evidence was offered you..

ps.. the book of Daniel isnt prophesy at all, its 'news stories' about the warring nations in the time it was written, all the creatures and actions symbolically refer to specific leaders and historical nations actions, all verifiable and backed by outside archeological sources, but I suppose you missed that in your biblical 'studies' when you already have the answers before you even look for the questions...sad really, you dont even know the history of your own religion and the region in which it was founded…

and actually I'm still celebrating Yule, the birth of your hypothetical savior is meaningless to me.. but i have to ask, do you have a tree in your home for this holiday season?? if so thanks your celebrating my holiday as much as i am yours, in fact most everyone is following traditions far older than those of your christ

Happy Holidays!

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Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

[kiltboy 0]

I'll disagree with the need to buy a WMD.

The Tokyo Sarin attack and the recent Anthrax scares have demonstrated that you don't need to buy the stuff, you can make it. The methods were on the web prior to 9/11 and the details could be worked out. Quantities of radiological waste could probably be obtained from the balkans or by scraping up all the depleted uranium in the sand. THe psychological effect of a small device in the US would be huge and greater than the physical effects.

David

[goose491 0]

Lighten up man

My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

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Fuck that. The Bible pusher/thumper opened his mouth, Let him back up his word, IF he can, I bet he won't/can't.

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[PhillyKev 0]

Nice job, Zen. Now you're just going to push him to go get his own nuke to make sure the "prophecy" comes true.

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I'll disagree with the need to buy a WMD.

The Tokyo Sarin attack and the recent Anthrax scares have demonstrated that you don't need to buy the stuff, you can make it.

True. The grounding of cropdusters was to prevent widescale Anthrax spreading. The hard part there is that it would have to powdered finely. That takes special machinery. However, just to put a limited scare out there would require little.

One of the Tom Clancey books talked about aerosol bio agents. The idea wasn't as much to damage people as to put fear in people. If they were afraid to mingle/do business/shop, then the economy would suffer. That is the target.

"Business is war." Damage the economy and you effectively destroy a country without firing a shot. Remember what 9/11 did to the airline industry? Loss of $300 million a day.

[chuteless 1]

greets: Your post shows how little you know about the Bible. Daniel is a book of prophesy, and NOT the warring nations of the time. His visions in Chapter 7-8-9-11, are total prophesy, and at the end of Chapter * ( I believe its 8) he says that no one understood his visions and he himself didnt even understand them, so he kept them in his heart. He had found them very disturbing because he couldnt explain them.

If they had been nothing but news reports, everybody would have known their meanings and understood them. Its you that doesnt understanmd


I do not have a Christmas tree in my home.

You are right...Bush wilkl be re-elected, and without spiritual understanding, you will just have to wait and see ( your words).

If I was to tell you what would take place before the end of Bush's second term, you couldnt handle it, because the truthis sometimes hard to accept.

actually, I am the most unmaterialistic person you will ever meet.


Hang in there,

and have a Merry CHRISTmas....

Bill Cole

[chuteless 1]

The Lord will back it up...after all He is in charge, and the prophesies are in His WORD

As fo "lighten up", Christ is the light of my life....to bad you are still in the dark.

Bill Cole

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I think I'm going to go rent "One Flew Over the Cookoo's Nest" this evening.

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I think I'm going to go rent "One Flew Over the Cookoo's Nest" this evening.

I think some of you should do a little research and find out who Bill Cole is.

I may not agree with his religious beliefs, but his skydiving career demands much repect. Much more than the way you guys are treating him!!!!!!!!!!!

Just type Bill Cole and skydive into google and do some reading.

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I may not agree with his religious beliefs, but his skydiving career demands much repect. Much more than the way you guys are treating him!!!!!!!!!!!

Well....I have never met Bill. Obviously he has been around a few years with a D41 license number. That's nice but we aren't really discussing Skydiving here. Are we? So his experience in that field has what to do with this conversation?

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Well....I have never met Bill. Obviously he has been around a few years with a D41 license number. That's nice but we aren't really discussing Skydiving here. Are we? So his experience in that field has what to do with this conversation?

If you guys just do a little reading, you'll find this guy has bigger balls than most of us will ever have. He deserves to be treated with some respect, even if you don't agree with his views.