Container Resize

[drewcarp 0]

I am looking at a Vector 3 built for someone 5'8-5'10 190lb. I am 6'1 180. I have read several places that a rig can be resized by a master rigger. What would be the difference between getting it resized and ordering fully custom rig? Is there any downside to having a resize done vs built custom? Is it just as strong after the resize? Easy to mess up? Does it affect resale value?

Thanks in advance,


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[billvon 3,119]

Depends on the work involved. If it's just lengthening the laterals or extending the legstraps, a master rigger might be a cheaper way to go. If it's more extensive than that (i.e. replacement of the harness) then sending it back to the manufacturer is a much better idea. They are the experts, and it won't cost you as much as a new rig.

[davelepka 4]

Depending on several factors, a harness resize will give you essentially the same harness you would get if you ordered the rig brand new.

The cost will vary depending on the type of harness, and the amount of work you would need done. Figure $500/$600 for an all new harness, less if only adjustments are needed. The value of the rig would most likely increase a bit, because of the new harness.

As far as who to do the work, the factory is generally the best option for this type of work. They have all the correct materials, threads, and machines in place, and the people doing the work build and re-size harnesses, all day, every day. Sometimes it's cheaper than using a local rigger because it will generally take a local guy longer in terms of ordering material, setting up machines, and just needing to work slower because they don't usually build harnesses every day. You do have to account for shipping if you use the manufacturer, but an empty harness/container only weighs 10 or 12 pounds, so the shipping isn't a fortune.

Get the serial number of the rig you're looking at, and get measured for a V3 as per the instructions on the order form. Have an experienced rigger or gear dealer measure you, so you know the numbers are right. Contact UPT with that info, and they can determine the scope the work and give you an estimate.

[freakflyer9999 1]

Several years ago I purchased an old student Vector for $100 and had the entire harness (fully adjustable student harness) replaced as well as some other work done on the container. The total was between $500 and $600 including return shipping. There wasn't any shipping to get it there because I happened to be in Orlando on vacation so I dropped the rig off in person.

IIRC UPT has pricing on their website, but a quick call to them will get an answer as well.

[base283 0]

Please state if you want the container resized or the harness and the peeps here could help you more.
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[DrewEckhardt 0]

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I am looking at a Vector 3 built for someone 5'8-5'10 190lb. I am 6'1 180.

You need to consider inseam length too.

A good rule of thumb for main lift web length is to take your height, subtract your inseam measurement, and subtract 20".

I'm 5'10" with a 30.5" inseam. 70-30.5-20=19.5. I think my custom rigs measure out at 19.5" and 20".

Some one 6'1 with a 33-34" inseam would take the same size.

Get your measurements taken as specified on UPT's order form, call UPT with the serial number, and ask them how things match up.

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I have read several places that a rig can be resized by a master rigger. What would be the difference between getting it resized and ordering fully custom rig? Is there any downside to having a resize done vs built custom? Is it just as strong after the resize? Easy to mess up? Does it affect resale value?

The custom rig will come in your choice of colors with whatever options you want.

[riggerrob 643]

Also consider that the factory will probably use all new webbing, versus a local master rigger who will try to re-use as much of the old harness as possible.
When the factory has all the patterns and materials, it is often quicker to hand the job to production.
Also consider that factories tend to under-charge for their time, because they believe that generous customer service improves the chances of further sales, also they would rather see the work done properly - at cost - than sloppily by an outsider.

OTOH, your local master rigger will have to devote more time to studying the existing harness and figuring out the finer points of its construction to build a close copy. The subtle differences between Vector harnesses and Talon harnesses will slow him down.

Trust me, I have worn both hats, first, when I worked a t Rigging Innovations, secondly when I did all the major repairs at Pitt Meadows for a decade.

Rob Warner
Customer Service Manager (emeritus) at Rigging Innovations
FAA Master Rigger

[riggerrob 643]

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[drewcarp 0]

Thanks everybody! Some great information. Calling UPT this afternoon if the Skydive Store can get me the serial numbers. Really appreciate you all taking the time to post.

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[theonlyski 8]

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Thanks everybody! Some great information. Calling UPT this afternoon if the Skydive Store can get me the serial numbers. Really appreciate you all taking the time to post.

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Wise choice. I just sold my Mirage, but had the buyer get his measurements according to Mirages' guide, and gave him the SN on the rig, so they confirm the fit, and I don't get hosed for shipping because I said it would fit.

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