lawrocket 3 #76 January 8, 2004 Hi, folks. I found the link I was looking for. Is this the sort of thing many of you would like to do? This story does seem prescient in this discussion. Note that the conservative, family values community sent an otherwise upstanding man to jail for 5-10 years. And, his daughter was over 18. Think about it. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #77 January 8, 2004 >By the way, can anyone explain to me the sexual attraction of a >young child????? I don't think you can. Some people are just wired differently. Sometimes guys are attracted to fat chicks, sometimes other guys, sometimes kids. I don't think it makes any "sense", it's just how connections in some part of someone's brain get made. >Goddamn anyone who messes with kids!!!! Yep. Being attracted to women doesn't excuse rape; being attracted to kids doesn't excuse pedophilia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #78 January 8, 2004 I'm a lover, not a fighter. Bear that in mind whilst you read the following: I'm all for revenge in a case like this. If a person molested my kid (though I haven't any), I'd have no interest in calling the cops knowing he/she has already served a sentence or two for just this sorta thing. It's obvious that the system does not work for him... having already spit him out twice, and he's still touching the young. IMHO the fathers mistake was hospitalising the f*ck... where he could explain what happened. The molester should have gotten one of two things from the kids father: 1) Beaten to a certain degree which did not require hospitalisation 2) A meeting with his maker Of course, option 2 is harder for the father to pull off without a trace back to himself. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #79 January 8, 2004 >2) A meeting with his maker Well, like I said before, I would not want to teach my kids to be murderers. But that's just me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #80 January 8, 2004 Quote>2) A meeting with his maker Well, like I said before, I would not want to teach my kids to be murderers. But that's just me. Well, I guess you'd just have to keep it as daddy's little secret then I lean more towards the sensless beating... I'm pretty surprised the molester ratted him out while in the hospital. It must have landed him back in some trouble for touchin' the kid. It shows but one thing: The molester does not give a rats ass if he gets caught and thinks nothing of the repercussions. So frustrating it must be... the guy clearly does not deserve even the smallest of jail cells. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swoopyswoop 0 #81 January 9, 2004 QuoteOne problem with taking matters into you own hands after the fact as in this case, when there is no immediate thread and the motive is clearly vengeance rather than defense, is that the law does not allow for individuals to take this action. The police will deprive you of your freedom, if only long enough to book and arraign you. If a jury decides you acted improperly, it could be years. This lack of freedom makes it difficult to protect your child in the next incident, especially if the psycho gets out before you do. Remember peter this was in the great state of texas, the law is a little more forgiving in a case like this. Its funny that vengence gets you absolutley no where, but the jury totally understands "when I die, I want to go like my grandfather while im sleeping, not like the passengers riding in the car with me Swoopster A.S.S. #6 Future T.S.S holder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Faber 0 #82 January 9, 2004 if i could hold my head cool as he did the guy would survive,if not.. i guess i had to spend the rest of my life in prison for murder1 no one hurts my kids,its a warning,a rule and the only thing were i know i would be violent(im alot against violence but thats beyond what i can take). people that hurts kids anyway is less worth that dogshit and i wouldnt care to beat such a moron up Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites souleh 0 #83 January 9, 2004 Don't get me wrong, I agree with you wholeheartedly. But something is yelling at me from these posts; 'innocent until proven guilty'. It's one thing catching the guy in the act, but if there isn't sufficient proof (hard to define what that is, I guess it depends on the situation), is it really our place to go and kill the guy ? Reminds me of a news story I read from around here some time ago, kind of not related but proves a point. There was a guy walking in the street, with a plastic bag containing a wooden chairleg he'd taken home from his workshop. Someone from a nearby pub saw it, thought it was a gun and called the police. Marksmen came.. thought the man was about to fire and shot him dead. You're a long time dead. It's probably just me, but I can't see killing someone as acceptable in any situation bar those where there's irrefutable proof. What if it wasn't him? What if it was someone else? Worse still, and most unlikely, what if the child lied? Or was simply confused as to who the 'nasty man' was through all of their pain and mental suffering from the incident? Now, if you've got your guy, go for it. I'd do the same, I'm fairly sure. But imagine being in the accused's spot if it isn't you; you're dead. End of story. People have said 'if he was a repeat offender', that'd make a big difference. But at the end of the day, how do you know? Have you got a photo list at home of all the sex offenders out there? Just another small point that springs to mind. Now as I've said, don't get me wrong here. Sex offenders disgust me in the most vile way possible; they don't deserve treatment as humans, much in the way you'd put down a vicious dog. But in all but those red handed situations, you just need to be so sure.. Argh, I'm rambling. I'd hate to ever be in this situation, and as several have mentioned, it's more a case of what you'd do at the time than what you say you'd do now. But from the bottom of my soul, I'd pray for anyone who was put in this kind of situation. It's just too nasty to think about 'buttplugs? where?' - geno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Faber 0 #84 January 9, 2004 QuoteBut something is yelling at me from these posts; 'innocent until proven guilty'. It's one thing catching the guy in the act, but if there isn't sufficient proof (hard to define what that is, I guess it depends on the situation), is it really our place to go and kill the guy ? in this case it were sure about what happened. first of all i wouldnt let my child be in a house whith a guy like that next...children are most times pure cxlean. kids dont think of sex so if one of my girls tells me that a person(example)has rubbed her vegina or touched her else were i will belive her. dont get me wrong here i also know kids lie,but as a parent you cant tell most times if its a lie,and if you cant see it you can just ask alot of Q´s which a child wouldnt be abel to rember the lie,but would rember the facts. to answere your Q about if its our place to kill such a person.. the answer will be NO,but as a parent theres somthing you just cant allow,and i can understand persons beating rapiests up.i hate violence but i actualy think they get what they deserve.doubbel moral i know Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Faber 0 #85 January 11, 2004 QuoteI can't see killing someone as acceptable in any situation bar those where there's irrefutable proof. and your SO right i do agree in all what you said,just explained that im not sure if i can see it if i ever(hope not)should get in such a possision. Killing can NEVER be a ok deal,but somtimes you cant control your feelings,thats why we see all this killing.Violence and killing is a way to express that you cant handel the time your in. Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 4 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Faber 0 #82 January 9, 2004 if i could hold my head cool as he did the guy would survive,if not.. i guess i had to spend the rest of my life in prison for murder1 no one hurts my kids,its a warning,a rule and the only thing were i know i would be violent(im alot against violence but thats beyond what i can take). people that hurts kids anyway is less worth that dogshit and i wouldnt care to beat such a moron up Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
souleh 0 #83 January 9, 2004 Don't get me wrong, I agree with you wholeheartedly. But something is yelling at me from these posts; 'innocent until proven guilty'. It's one thing catching the guy in the act, but if there isn't sufficient proof (hard to define what that is, I guess it depends on the situation), is it really our place to go and kill the guy ? Reminds me of a news story I read from around here some time ago, kind of not related but proves a point. There was a guy walking in the street, with a plastic bag containing a wooden chairleg he'd taken home from his workshop. Someone from a nearby pub saw it, thought it was a gun and called the police. Marksmen came.. thought the man was about to fire and shot him dead. You're a long time dead. It's probably just me, but I can't see killing someone as acceptable in any situation bar those where there's irrefutable proof. What if it wasn't him? What if it was someone else? Worse still, and most unlikely, what if the child lied? Or was simply confused as to who the 'nasty man' was through all of their pain and mental suffering from the incident? Now, if you've got your guy, go for it. I'd do the same, I'm fairly sure. But imagine being in the accused's spot if it isn't you; you're dead. End of story. People have said 'if he was a repeat offender', that'd make a big difference. But at the end of the day, how do you know? Have you got a photo list at home of all the sex offenders out there? Just another small point that springs to mind. Now as I've said, don't get me wrong here. Sex offenders disgust me in the most vile way possible; they don't deserve treatment as humans, much in the way you'd put down a vicious dog. But in all but those red handed situations, you just need to be so sure.. Argh, I'm rambling. I'd hate to ever be in this situation, and as several have mentioned, it's more a case of what you'd do at the time than what you say you'd do now. But from the bottom of my soul, I'd pray for anyone who was put in this kind of situation. It's just too nasty to think about 'buttplugs? where?' - geno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #84 January 9, 2004 QuoteBut something is yelling at me from these posts; 'innocent until proven guilty'. It's one thing catching the guy in the act, but if there isn't sufficient proof (hard to define what that is, I guess it depends on the situation), is it really our place to go and kill the guy ? in this case it were sure about what happened. first of all i wouldnt let my child be in a house whith a guy like that next...children are most times pure cxlean. kids dont think of sex so if one of my girls tells me that a person(example)has rubbed her vegina or touched her else were i will belive her. dont get me wrong here i also know kids lie,but as a parent you cant tell most times if its a lie,and if you cant see it you can just ask alot of Q´s which a child wouldnt be abel to rember the lie,but would rember the facts. to answere your Q about if its our place to kill such a person.. the answer will be NO,but as a parent theres somthing you just cant allow,and i can understand persons beating rapiests up.i hate violence but i actualy think they get what they deserve.doubbel moral i know Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #85 January 11, 2004 QuoteI can't see killing someone as acceptable in any situation bar those where there's irrefutable proof. and your SO right i do agree in all what you said,just explained that im not sure if i can see it if i ever(hope not)should get in such a possision. Killing can NEVER be a ok deal,but somtimes you cant control your feelings,thats why we see all this killing.Violence and killing is a way to express that you cant handel the time your in. Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites