What would you do: Sex offender and your child

[sdgregory 0]

Thank you carress that is truly the point. My kids do not fear because they believe I will give everything to protect them. And if I am unable that I will make sure they see justice done no matter what it costs me. And that there is no way that the person that hurt them would hurt them again or anyone else for that matter.

[jeremyneas 0]

So your kids are abused, and now dad is in jail? Doesn't seem the best action. Lawrocket is right, sex offenders (especially pedifiles) feel the wrath when they get to prison.

[caress 0]

Sorry bud that just isn't enough punishment! I need to know in my heart that they suffered with harsh fury!-Caress

I've learned.... That being kind is more important than being
right.

[mcrocker 0]

I wouldn't have taken the head off the axe. Castration by a rusty axe sounds about right. I would clean the axe off in gasoline first and clean the resulting wound with salt and steel wool. All the while cramming smelling salts up his nose so he can endure the pain.

[sdgregory 0]

Not always. How many repeat sex offenders are out there. Do you think if they really paid a terrible price in prison that they would come out and do it again?

Too many cases of repeat sex offenders out there. This prison talk does not wash with logic. I think we keep telling ourselves this to make the pain easier to bear.

Since my brother is a Corrections officer I will ask him what happens to sex offenders in his prison. I believe he would know.

Thinking about it I might claim the dead happened in NEw York and let the guy go to my brother's prison and then I would have all kinds of access to the fucker . . . the possibilities . . .

[billvon 3,112]

>I do not think that is the messege sean is trying to send to his children at all.

Children learn what they see. If they see their father stalk, capture, torture and kill a man for merely threatening a child, they will learn that that's OK. Someday, a lover may jilt them, run out on them and leave them pregnant. If it's OK to torture and kill a man who merely _threatened_ to molest a child, surely it's OK to kill a man who has so little respect for a child that he'd let it be born fatherless and in poverty! After all, it will prevent him from doing it to other women.

It's like the man who comes home and screams at his wife all the time, but tells his kids "it's not OK to scream at other people; I do it to Mommy because she did something bad." They will learn to scream at other people, and nothing you can say will prevent them from learning that.

Live your life like you want your children to live theirs. If you think it's OK for your children to become murderers, be a murderer yourself. If you want them to respect our society's laws, respect them.

[billvon 3,112]

>I need to know in my heart that they suffered with harsh fury!-Caress

No argument there, but we're not talking about what makes you feel good, we're talking about what's best for your children. I think part of being a parent is choosing what's good for your children over what's good for you.

[jeremyneas 0]

Best thing to do is to be there for your kids. Getting sent to jail is not being there to help your kids. The damage was done, the healing process needs to start, and it doesn't begin with hate.

[sdgregory 0]

Wrong answer if someone threatens to molest my kids they just get a ride to prison. If someone MOLESTS my kids that is a different story.

And give me and my kids some credit there is a big damn difference betwenn someone molesting your child and jilted lover and I think my kids know the difference and believe me I have taught them.

You are taking a big leap.

[caress 0]

I just reread Seans post, and I don't see anything in there suggesting that the "taking out " of this person be done in front of the kids, knowing is one thing, but seeing is another. Reading what you are saying to me is giving me the impression that you think I want my kids to watch this happen. i guess it is a real struggle for me not to become violent when it comes to my kids, but also that I do not believe that the justice system holds satisfaction for me in this circumstance. In my opinion the justice system blows chunks. I think there are too many repeat offenders, they should be pushin up daisies.-Caress

I've learned.... That being kind is more important than being
right.

[Sheenster303 0]

I think that if I was put into that position I would want to kill the man and do everything possible to torture him before I do it. I, however, would only WANT to do that. You may show your child that you care about what happened to him by killing the man, but after you are in jail, what will happen? The child will be without a parent. You have to think about the child's well-being before you go and do something out of anger. The child may not even recognize that you killed the abuser for him. They may just see that you killed a person. The child may not even look up to you for that. Let the law deal with the man and hopefully the death penalty will get him.

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[billvon 3,112]

>Reading what you are saying to me is giving me the impression that
>you think I want my kids to watch this happen.

Not at all. I just meant that you should live your life the way you want your children to live theirs. And if you kill a man for molesting someone - they will learn that it's OK to kill a man if he does something really bad to someone else. If you are OK with teaching them that, then, well, that's your decision.

>i guess it is a real struggle for me not to become violent when it
> comes to my kids . . .

It would be for me too, but I think that I could put my kid's needs over my desire to cut the guy's arms off.

[caress 0]

I have always struggled to be a good parent, however, I am not going to allow you to create doubt in myself as a good parent just because of what you said, if anything I'll do alot of thinking about what was said. For now I will stand by my decisions as posted.-Caress

I've learned.... That being kind is more important than being
right.

[bshl 0]

In an ordered society, there's no place for vigilante justice. That being said, I'd be inclined to beat the crap out of any bastard who messed with my kids. Would I kill him? I don't know. I'd be inclined to give him a fairly thorough counselling, though.

Sending the kid off to spend the night there wasn't the brightest of moves but that's a different issue.

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[flyangel2 2]

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Sending the kid off to spend the night there wasn't the brightest of moves but that's a different issue.

That would have kept the problem from happening. When my boys were younger, there were only certain houses I would allow them to do "overnights". Why put your child in harms way. The parent shouldn't have allowed the child to stay the night at a half way house. What the hell was he thinking?

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[koz2000 1]

Anyone ever see the video of the father that shot the molester of his young daughter?
Happend in Lousiana in the early 90's. The convicted guy is being escorted by US Marshals through an airport, father walks up shoots the guy in the head. The father was released with no conviction by the courts. The whole thing was on video...

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[sdgregory 0]

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Sending the kid off to spend the night there wasn't the brightest of moves but that's a different issue.

That would have kept the problem from happening. When my boys were younger, there were only certain houses I would allow them to do "overnights". Why put your child in harms way. The parent shouldn't have allowed the child to stay the night at a half way house. What the hell was he thinking?

I agree. My kids until the each reach fifteen are not aloud to spend the night anywhere other than my mother's, my aunt's and my brother's.

At fiftenn I will allow them to spend the night at friend's houses but I must personally know the parents very well before that happens and boys do not stay the night at girls houses and vice versa.

I also will not allow anyone to spend the night here unless I personally know the parents. Safer that way.

[Amazon 7]

Bill I really respect your opinion on this one.. a voice of reason in the myriad of chest beating and guys with violent tendencies who would out of misplaced macho stupidity end up as victims of our legal system. Both you and Kristen are voices of reason in this respect.

I would make it far harder for child molesters to ever be in society.. they seem to be unable to control thier urges.. so segragate them from the rest of us who CAN find ways to live tih one another without abusing others. Most of the chest beating types I think are doing it more from a perspective of trying to impress their peers. From my personal experience a violent man will more than likely be an abuser himself. Far more children are abused by men in their own families than the ubiquitous child molester down the street.

[hmatousek 0]

I agree with you Andy. Why did those parents let the child stay in the half way house to begin with?

I believe in justice but there are always repercusssions to any action. I think the future well being of my child would be more important than revenge.

Life doesn't have to be perfect in order to be beautiful!

[BethUK 0]

***An 11-year-old boy was staying at the halfway house, which is owned and operated by the boy's relatives.***

From reading that article I got the impression that the boy was staying at the halfway house, OWNED by his relatives...therefore I guess he wasn't simply left somewhere on his own. He was with relatives...maybe I'm interpreting wrong?

Beth

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[Perky77 0]

They way I read the article the parents should have their ass kicked for putting their child in a dangerous situation like that. Why intentionally endanger your child? Dumbasses

However in response to Dave's question of what would I have done as the father.....well since I am not a father I can only speak more hypothetically than most......and it is scary to think of how creative I can be when it comes to hurting someone like that. and self control, what little I have, would not be enough to keep me from acting in rage.

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[flyangel2 2]

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***An 11-year-old boy was staying at the halfway house, which is owned and operated by the boy's relatives.***

From reading that article I got the impression that the boy was staying at the halfway house, OWNED by his relatives...therefore I guess he wasn't simply left somewhere on his own. He was with relatives...maybe I'm interpreting wrong?

Relatives, that's the key word. Not parents. Any parent in their right mind should never leave their child in harms way. I don't care that he was left with Relatives, there are some relatives I have that I wouldn't trust my child with. The bottom line, the father messed up when he left the child at a half way house. Wonder why the father had to leave the child there in the first place? There is nothing too important going on in my life that I would leave my child there.

May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey

[hmatousek 0]

Even if his relatives owned it I don't think a half way house is an appropriate place for a young boy. I wouldn't let my son spend the night there even if I owned it.

Life doesn't have to be perfect in order to be beautiful!

[sdgregory 0]

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From my personal experience a violent man will more than likely be an abuser himself.

So any man who would VIOLENTLY defend his family is more than likely violent with his family? I resent your implication.

As far as to impress my peers, I could give rip what my peers think. I care what my family thinks and it is important to me that they know I will give up my freedom to protect them.

I am not ashamed of my position on this matter nor do I apologize for it. My position stands. You harm my child in anyway, God have mercy on your soul because I will have none on your life.

Call me archaic, call me barbaric, call me a chest pounding testosterone filled animal. I could care less. But do not mistake a man's desire to vehemently and violently protect his family for anything other than that.

And as far as from your personal experience, how many men who would violently protect their families have you known that you can lay a blanket statement on them like that?

And I consider my stand on this as protecting them even if it is after the fact. It sends a message that will keep them protected to the best of my abilities long after I am gone.

[sdgregory 0]

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Even if his relatives owned it I don't think a half way house is an appropriate place for a young boy. I wouldn't let my son spend the night there even if I owned it.

You got that right. Me neither.