Slappie 9 #1 January 12, 2004 The Rocket - Roger Clemens for 1yr 5 mill. I bet Steinbrenar (sp) is fuming!! The guy retires from baseball as a Yankee, loosing the World Series. Now he's an Astro in Houston Texas. Personal take on this. The Astros have alot of players going to be leaving the club next year due to contracts, age, etc... So this is a last ditch effort to win the big one. I hope like hell they can pull it off. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kai2k1 0 #2 January 12, 2004 OHHH this is terrible news. Terrible news i tell ya. Looks like my cardinals are playing for 3rd place this year! There's no truer sense of flying than sky diving," Scott Cowan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FliegendeWolf 0 #3 January 12, 2004 Excellent...It's all falling into place. First Keith Foulke, now this. A One that Isn't Cold is Scarcely a One at All Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aero04 0 #4 January 12, 2004 This is great news!!! Looks like McClane might be trying to put together a team that might win, rather than one that might make him money. Should be a fun season to watch! Now I just don't understand why they got rid of Wagner. I guess they needed money for these big name pithers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #5 January 12, 2004 Roger Clemens Quote "Roger Clemens was a great warrior for the Yankees -- a teacher and a leader," Yankees owner George Steinbrenner said in a statement. "He told the world he was retiring, and we had no choice but to believe him." Ya I think he's pissed.. Since we've already gotten Andy Pettitte from the Yankees.. Poor George "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kramer 0 #6 January 12, 2004 Man that's crazy. After watching him "pitch in his last game ever" on FOX. The way that his wife and him were talking after the game and shit, I thought for sure he was done. Not the best news I've ever heard being a Cubs fan and all... But it'll be nice to see the Rocket around for another year. -Kramer The FAKE KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #7 January 12, 2004 QuoteNow I just don't understand why they got rid of Wagner. I guess they needed money for these big name pithers. Personaly I think Wagner did it to himself. He openly criticized the Astros management in the media. This coinciding with him going to make 9mil for the 04 season. I think mgt had, had enough and dumped him for the cash returns. Then they went straight out and signed Andy P. Dotel the setup man for Wagner isn't as good a closer as Wagner is, but seriously this guy can shut down an ining. He was able to close out the 8th before Wagner came in. So the Astros will probably be moving him to the closer spot, pay him less money and not have to listen to Wagner spew dissent about the mgt.. Don't get me wrong I hated to see Wagner go just about as much as anyone else in Houston. Maybe his woke mgt up with some of his comments *shrugs* to go out and field a winning team. Jeff Kent (2nd basemen) along with a few others on the team have openly spoken up about the way McLane was milking the team and not opening the bank to get some decent players on the roster. This looks to me like a last ditch effort to get the World Series. It's not going to be easy.. Look out Cubbies, Cards and any other team in the NLC!! Astros have some big guns now "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #8 January 12, 2004 Yes, but we all saw this coming. It was obvious he was headed to Houston last month. Him and Andy Petitte are close friends. These rumors have been circulating for some time. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingILweenie 0 #9 January 12, 2004 I'll still take Prior and Wood over Pettite and Clemens.... now i wonder who will end up with maddux?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murrays 0 #10 January 13, 2004 Now that he's a National Leaguer and has to bat, I'm looking forward to seeing Roger get a couple of "purpose pitches" thrown his way-- Murray "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kai2k1 0 #11 January 13, 2004 If a deal can be worked out I have a hunch that he will be wearing cardinal red next season There's no truer sense of flying than sky diving," Scott Cowan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #12 January 13, 2004 QuoteIf a deal can be worked out I have a hunch that he will be wearing cardinal red next season No way.. He's from Houston, one of the reasons he's come out of retirement is he's got a clause when he's not on the rotation, he's able to go watch his son play ball. Meaning he doesn't have to be at games he's not going to pitch in. Keep dreaming of 3rd place Kai because, it's probably going to be Houston, Chicago ... and the rest "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kramer 0 #13 January 13, 2004 Wow, this is his first NL team, isn't it? I didn't even think of that... -Kramer The FAKE KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingILweenie 0 #14 January 13, 2004 Rumors have it that the Cubs are now going after Maddux. That would be one hell of a rotation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #15 January 13, 2004 QuoteRumors have it that the Cubs are now going after Maddux. That would be one hell of a rotation. Maddux is probably going to the Mets since they didn't sign Vlad Guereroro (sp) they have alot of money to spend. Then he'd be hooking up with his long time buddy Glavin.. Another tag team rotation to contend with. That's the rumor this morning on ESPN Sports Center.. As far as Clemens having to hit, it's going to be a huge change. Hey if Randy Johnson was able to make the switch to the NL I'm sure Clemens wont have a problem with it. The AL cheats with the Designated Hitter anyways!! One thing no ones brought up is now Andy and Roger are both in a "Homerun" park Minutemaid Park is second only to Coors field with 186 Homers given up. Let's hope they can control the urge to give up the long ball "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
