Ron 10 #1 January 13, 2004 Well I am thinking of going back to school. I work full time, and I'd like to keep the job to continue to accrue retirement. So the U of Phoenix seems like a good idea. Its expensive 295.00 per hr. vs University of South Florida and its 96.95 per hr. However I'm not paying for it either way. The really good thing is U of P considers you full time one long day a week. 6-10 pm. Instead of going three days a week. Anybody ever done U of Phoenix?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #2 January 13, 2004 I haven't done U of Phoenix, but I've done Internet-based undergrad classes, so have some related experience. I also just started an online dual-degree masters program. (Hence the drop in my postwhoring.) Are you looking at online programs, tele-classes or ones where you physically go to a class with the teacher? Most schools still have in-state vs out-of-state tuition differences, which can be quite dramatic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmpnkramer 0 #3 January 13, 2004 Hey Ron Are you sure that it is fully accredited? Anyway there are more chica's at USF! Laters, The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooked 0 #4 January 13, 2004 I've heard really good things about U of Phoenix. My friends husband teaches there and their son graduated from there. They might be biased but they are the kind of people who hunt and search for the best and this was the choice for their son. Because he worked, the schedule was perfect for him. His Dad only started teaching there after their son started going there. Don't know if this helps, but it's an opinion. J -------------------------------------- Sometimes we're just being Humans.....But we're always Human Beings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #5 January 13, 2004 QuoteHey Ron Are you sure that it is fully accredited? it is, my father finished his masters after he retired from the military, all the while working for the sheriffs dept, from the university of Phoenix____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nightjumps 1 #6 January 13, 2004 http://www.back2college.com/onlinedegrees.htm http://news.com.com/2100-1017-253671.html?legacy=cnet Opinion: I "believe" that getting a regionally accredited degree from any institution is better than having no degree when you're targeting a profession. I also believe that it is important to demonstrate some educational diversity as you move up the corporate ladder. There will always be the nay-sayers about strictly on-line degrees. My experience in corporate America is that an on-line degree will help get a job when comparing the degreed applicant against the non-degreed applicant. However, when faced with an on-line degreed applicant against one that has a "traditional" university degree (you mentioned the University of S.F.), the microscope gets focused a little tighter. My recommendation is; One should consider an opposing degree from each venue to demonstrate a well-rounded ability to learn in either environment. So, for example, if you get an undergraduate degree from an on-line university, one should consider a "traditional" university graduate program or vice versa. "Traditional" university undergraduate program and a "professional" on-line graduate program. If your desire is to move up in an organization or move to another organization (which we all will move 6-8 times in our lifetime), consider the impressions of the hiring manager for advancement on the following resume options: 1. B.S., Business Administration, University of Phoenix. 2. B.S., Business Administration, University of Phoenix. M.B.A., University of South Florida 3. B.S., University of South Florida M.B.A., University of Phoenix 4. B.S., Business Administration, University of Phoenix. M.B.A., University of Phoenix Many "traditional" universities are now formatting an accelerated graduate program whereby the Master's candidate goes to class one night a week, but only studies one subject area for six weeks for 2 years (with no semester breaks), rather than three subjects for three nights a week for 2 years (with semester breaks). In addition, if you intend on staying in one State (FL), there is a lot to be said regarding corporate networking in relation to State universities - University of Southern Florida degrees in corporate America in Florida. Somebody up the food chain will always have an instant comaraderie with a fellow State university alumnus. Finally, it's my "understanding" that your tenure in the UoP program is conditional on employment. If you lose your job, you only have "X" amount of time to get another job to remain in the UoP program... but you may wish to check that out and whether it has to be in the same field if in a technical preofessional degree program (i.e., Information Technology). As Dennis Miller used to say, "That's just my opinion, I could be wrong." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kramer 0 #7 January 13, 2004 QuoteAnyway there are more chica's at USF! That's what we like to hear. I'm currently in the process of possibly transfering there. -Kramer The FAKE KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #8 January 13, 2004 If you do a search on Google you will find plenty of information on Univ Of Phoenix. Private-post secondary education is a growing market, and most are public owned companies. Others in this field would be DeVry and AIU online. Some of them are accredited, (I know AIU online is, and DeVry is now a University). These schools will ALWAYS be more expensive than a public community college or university since they get government/state backing....and most strive to be the most expensive in their market to help increase the perceived value of the school. When you are asking about an opinion of one of these schools, you have to realize there is often a huge differance in quality between some of the locations...I know I have seen that at my company. There is still a stigma in most people's minds that they "need" to go to a traditional college/university to be marketable. What you need to concentrate on is your major and what you will do with it upon graduation. Often these private schools get their grads out into the field quicker with more marketable skills than say someone that spent 5 years studying Humanities and now has no carrer path._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,153 #9 January 13, 2004 QuoteHey Ron Are you sure that it is fully accredited? Anyway there are more chica's at USF! Laters, The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!! U of Phoenix is accredited by The Higher Learning Commission of the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools (NCA-HLC) . This is the largest of several accreditation agencies in the USA. Accreditation means that you can get federal financial aid, among other things. In addition, specific degree programs can be accredited - this is common for professional programs (engineering, psychology, architecture, law etc.). I have no info on specific programs at U of P but programs are commonly required to post their accreditation status on their literature as a criterion of being accredited.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZL60 0 #10 January 13, 2004 I know several people who have completed undergraduate and graduate degree programs at U of P and swear by it.. I keep meaning to finish my Masters there but procrastination and skydiving keeps getting in the way. Go for it and best wishes Who said Kiwis can't fly? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jverley 1 #11 January 13, 2004 I also am returning to school and I chose the University of Phoenix. I start on January 28th. While it is expensive, I like that it allows you to keep working a full time job and that it is geared for professionals. While I have not attended a class yet, my counselors and advisors have been great. The online piece seems to work well and I think I am gonna like it. Good luck with your return to school.John Arizona Hiking Trails Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #12 January 13, 2004 You know, Texas A&M is a kickass school...and there's a kickass DZ about 8 minutes from campus.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #13 January 13, 2004 I have... You can take courses online too.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #14 January 13, 2004 u of p is sorta big with the military crowd. know lots of people that have degrees from them...... and regionaly acredited is sometmes beter than nationaly... all depends on what you want........ ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcandalysse 0 #15 January 13, 2004 What are you looking to study? Undergrad or Grad school? I drove up to USF 3 nites a week for my MBA/MIS degree, and it was definitely advantageous to be there in person. Most of my fellow students were working in the field and had alot of experience to bring to the discussions. I learned as much from my interactions with them (like on group projects) as I did from the profs' lectures. It would be hard to imagine being able to get that kind of interaction online, even with white boards and chat. And yes, can't forget about those real live USF girls a very international group, much better than virtual ones! The ones at the communication school (next to the business school) are incredibly well dressed and madeup, future weathergirls and newscasters hoping to be seen.... USF has those 'executive' masters courses, one day a week. And there are other options there. And that's only a 15-20 min ride for you! I wish I had been into skydiving while at USF! Instead of all those trips down the street to Busch Gardens to ride the coasters (I had year passes the whole time at USF)....I could have been driving a few minutes more down the other direction on Fowler to Zhills!! Marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,153 #16 January 13, 2004 Quoteu of p is sorta big with the military crowd. know lots of people that have degrees from them...... and regionaly acredited is sometmes beter than nationaly... all depends on what you want........ There is no "national" accreditation of colleges and universities, all accreditation is done by regional boards, like the North Central Association that accredits U of Phoenix. The Feds recognize a small number (6 maybe) of such regional boards which cover the whole USA.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #17 January 13, 2004 QuoteYou know, Texas A&M is a kickass school...and there's a kickass DZ about 8 minutes from campus Yeah, but I have this job in Tampa, FL. Id kinda like to keep...Been there 13 years and all. And the DZ you are talking about is only a Cessna DZ....Mine (That I live on) has 3 Otters. And lets not forget any school I go to...Will not be in Texas"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cornholio 0 #18 January 13, 2004 Yup, I done it.. Just graduated last April. Well, I went through the ceremony, but still have to take a few tests to actually get my degree, which I'm working on. It's a bit expensive - about 1100 for a 5 week class. Hope you got reimbursement someplace. True, you meet once a week in class for 4 hours, and then meet with your "learning team" for a supposedly 5-6 hours more that week and turn in group and individual assignments each week, with a large group presentation for the "Final" every 5 weeks. It's pretty simple.... I could have done most of the classes with only 10% effort. Ok, ok, I did only do the classes with 10% effort, but I still walked away with a 3.8 GPA, so take that for what it's worth. I'd recommend it for those looking for a degree. If you're looking for an education, I'd suggest looking elsewhere or try much much harder than I did. Butthead: Whoa! Burritos for breakfast! Beavis: Yeah! Yeah! Cool! bellyflier on the dz.com hybrid record jump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #19 January 13, 2004 QuoteWhat are you looking to study? Undergrad Undergrad...I never finished. QuoteUSF has those 'executive' masters courses, one day a week. And there are other options there. And that's only a 15-20 min ride for you! Well U of P has basicly the same program, but for undergrad as well...Having a full time job I am not sure I would like to be taking 3 different classes, and going 3 times a week to school. I kinda like the one night a week approach. And the classes are AT the school, just one class every 5 weeks, once a week. And it is expensive, but the GI bill is paying for it. The fact is I have to use this benefit, or I will lose it....I don't like the idea of being in school for 7 years while I go part time....And I can't see working full time, and going to school full time. So I am really leaning to U of P."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
