PIA Symposium Rigger Forum

[councilman24 37]

Okay, as always the PIA Rigging Committee is doing a Rigger Forum during the symposium. Date and time yet to be finalized. (you try scheduling 160 hours plus of presentations!)

I'd like your suggestions on topics for the rigger forum. These should be informational in nature, not confrontational. We all know some hot button issues. But we also all know some information that may be on here but not known in general.

A case in point is the cypres disc failures. Airtec didn't make a big deal out of it because there were only 400 left in circulation and the risk was minimal. We on dz.com had a thread and Airtec put out a notice. End of story?

Nope. It went to some PIA members who don't frequent dz.com and a whole repeat of the thread started in email. No harm, no foul but information in two different places getting to two different sets of folks.

So, what do "we", on dz.com know that the rest of the world doesn't?

I know, I know, EVERYTHING!

Let me know your ideas for topics. They don't have to be things we agree on but things to discuss and inform.


We will be having at least 4, and probably more, pilot rig packing demonstrations with ROUNDS. If you curious as to what a round looks like you'll be able to see them here. Including a mystery container. Along with some hang gliding reserves there may be more rounds than squares packed!


ALSO, before the symposium on Friday, Saturday and Sunday morning PIA will be conducting it's business meeting. All but a few minutes of every meeting is open to the public. Your well come to come any or all of the business meeting and especially the rigging committee meeting. You welcome to offer suggestions to the committee also. But recognize that our perview is much more limited that you might realize. Unlike other countries, neither USPA or PIA have ANY regulatory power.

The committee schedule isn't out but should be in January.

This is also the time to JOIN PIA! Anybody is welcome to join. Associate membership is still $150 (I've tried to get a lower rigger rate, but with repacks going from $15 to $60-$90 while the $150 hasn't changed it's not so bad). Go to pia.com to look for the membership application. You need two sponsors but those aren't hard to get. If you need help or want to know more let me know.

MEL, I'm looking for yours!

Later,

I'm old for my age.
Terry Urban
D-8631
FAA DPRE

[fcajump 164]

Sorry Terry... its been a long day...

Are you asking for additional Presentation topic ideas, or items for the Rigger Discussion/Forum?

If the later:
Cypres Disks (soft)
Sealing techniques (from around the world )
Spring Loaded Pilot chutes that fail to launch
Not opening the container
Not leaving the container
FAA Plastic License requirements ->
Future FAA photo license requirements
(for the USA licensed folks)

That's off the top of my head...

JW

Always remember that some clouds are harder than others...

[liftedtitan 0]

proper AAD cutter orientation and placement.

Moriuntur omnes, sed non omnes vixerunt.

[erdnarob 1]

Here is some topics :

1) Location of the AAD cutter (bottom of the reserve bag, above the reserve, above the pilot chute) leaving a short or a long closing loop remainder when cut.

2) pilot chute spring strength or/and its launching height reached (is higher, better ?)

3) Tuck tab versus Velcro and magnet for riser covers

4) hardware/webbing sliding (or shinny stainless steel hardware versus nickel plated hardware and the matching webbing)

5) Small and large reserve handle (or fashion versus function)

6) standards for canopies packing volume and size

7) TSO or equivalent (standards) for AAD's

8) reserve opening and closing in order to change AAD batteries or install another AAD (when the rigger who packed the reserve is not available), who can seal it without a repack ?

9) trim angle of canopies to be indicated on their tag (ie. 13 degrees, 15.5 degrees or 18 degrees...) (angle between the chord and the horizontal with toggles up)

10) main brake release and steering line knotting problems (any brake standards...?)

11) actual force to be applied on a cutaway handle with respect to the 3 ring size and suspended weight including G force involved in a high spinning malfunction

12) rigging tools (old and new) and tricks

Learn from others mistakes, you will never live long enough to make them all.

[Unstable 9]

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proper AAD cutter orientation and placement.

- Putting the Cypres Loop through the Cutter.

=========Shaun ==========