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QuoteQuote225 some odd years of not going around starting wars
9. World War 1
10. World War 2
Yeah, remember those two times we invaded those peaceful loving Germans. Man, what a hoot.
QuoteQuoteQuote225 some odd years of not going around starting wars
9. World War 1
10. World War 2
Yeah, remember those two times we invaded those peaceful loving Germans. Man, what a hoot.
Not to mention the time that we provoked the Japanese at Pearl Harbor.
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Tonto 1
I simply listed ALL actions that have involved the US in the past 225 years. For example - Somalia was a UN mission - but the US saw action there. In no way did I infer that the US was the aggresor in any or all of the conflicts listed.
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QuoteDo you know have any idea how many people in European contries that don't like you either?
I have to admit that I care more about what the Arabs think than the European countries. As a group they've always had an "I'm superior" attitude and looked down their noses at the US. Lately, they've went to great pains to hide their economic goals in cloaks of moral superiority. I find it disgusting.
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Steel 0
Quote>I think we in the West have no idea just how much animosity there is towards the US in particular.
I think if an arab talked to our very own Steel he'd get a feeling that americans all hate muslims. But that would just be one american; it's hard to draw any conclusions from that.
You know whats funny. I was thinking that all my life I have heard foreigners from just about everywhere saying negative things about the U.S. I never quite understood it. Even though I had my opinion that it was all based on jealousy, I could clearly see that there were two possibilities. One is jealousy and the other was that the U.S. citizens were truly mean-spirited toward other countries.
As I grew older and traveled I noticed parallels. In Europe I found there to be a clear jealousy toward Germany (the most successful country there). Having been married to a Russian, I heard endless negative propaganda against Germany. Ofcourse I never fell for any of it. The truth could not be any clearer when we would meet people in other countries and I would say I am American and she would say she was German. At first I would have a double take and ask, "why the hell did you say that? Your Russian." But obviously she wished she was German but still had a ton of negative propaganda to spew about them. It doesn't end there. My sister went to vet school in Argentina for 6 years and I have gotten to know alot from her as well as from freinds she graduated with. Its no different there. Argentina is among the most sucessful countries in South America and the rest of the South Americans have have all the same negative propoganda to say about them. The same things. Oh they think there so great, they think their sh*# doesn't stink they are so insensitive to foreigners. And then we have me and people like me (white{Spanish descendent}, Cuban Americans) without a doubt the most sucessful ethnic group that has ever come to the U.S. And still I hear the same crap. It typically comes from the bleeding heart liberal WASP Americans who are in dire need of an out to release there inner bigotry. Remember Elian Gonzalez and the things that were said. Those Cubans are out of control. Janet Reno needed to send those swat teams in there because the Cuban Mafia would not let her get through otherwise. Who do those Cubans think they are? They have taken Miami. Hey this is the U.S. our billboards should all be in English. I feel like I am in another county in Miami. Florida should not be confused with Miami. Yes I have heard all this crap before and it has annoyed me in the past. But now looking at the whole picture I find it humorous. Because it just goes to prove that we are better and that is why they are jealous of us. Its as simple as that the hate us because we are better. So what, should we lower our quality of life so that they like us, no Screw Em.
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I don't usually read the political posts on here, and certainly have never responded to one, but I think maybe that people should remember that although its mainly Americans on this site, there are a lot of people from other countries that all use this site as well. And making wild assumptions about large groups of people based on where they live is likely to offend those of us that don't necessarily think that the American way of life is the best and are proud of being from our respective countries and our traditions we uphold there.
Maybe you should think twice before generalising about entire nations of people on the thoughts and actions of a few. You cannot say that every nation on this planet who doesn't do things the way America does is jealous of the American way of life, that is ridiculous.
At the end of the day, this is a skydiving forum, not a political forum, maybe we should leave the politics outside and get back talking about our common interest of jumping out of planes?
[Steel - This isn't aimed directly at you - you were just the last person to reply to this thread]
~~~ London Skydivers ~~~
Maybe you should think twice before generalising about entire nations of people on the thoughts and actions of a few. You cannot say that every nation on this planet who doesn't do things the way America does is jealous of the American way of life, that is ridiculous.
At the end of the day, this is a skydiving forum, not a political forum, maybe we should leave the politics outside and get back talking about our common interest of jumping out of planes?
[Steel - This isn't aimed directly at you - you were just the last person to reply to this thread]
~~~ London Skydivers ~~~
QuoteI simply listed ALL actions that have involved the US in the past 225 years. For example - Somalia was a UN mission - but the US saw action there. In no way did I infer that the US was the aggresor in any or all of the conflicts listed.
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Quote225 some odd years of not going around starting wars seemed to be working out pretty well for us
By listing the wars as a response to this, you were implying a rebuttal to the "not going around starting wars". The original poster never said that the US was not in wars, just that the US didn't start them.
That would make your list a lot shorter.
Culture creep is what a lot of countries don't like.
The French don't like the "Americanization" of their language. Too many English words creeping in there.
The ever-present MTV morality. People having sex, wearing flimsy clothes, and dancing in a suggestive manner. All of these things are against the moral codes of Arab countries (and theoretically the Christian ones).
In fairness, the "religious right" in the US isn't that fond of it either. Televangelists refer to Hollywood with the same fervor that others call the US the "Great Satan". They do it for the same reasons.
Remember "Freedom Summer"? 500 mostly black and Jewish college-age kids going to the South to do voter registration drives. Cultural attack. Quite a reaction, wasn't there?
Arab countries don't like the US for its culture and feel that its influence will change their world. It probably will.
The French don't like the "Americanization" of their language. Too many English words creeping in there.
The ever-present MTV morality. People having sex, wearing flimsy clothes, and dancing in a suggestive manner. All of these things are against the moral codes of Arab countries (and theoretically the Christian ones).
In fairness, the "religious right" in the US isn't that fond of it either. Televangelists refer to Hollywood with the same fervor that others call the US the "Great Satan". They do it for the same reasons.
Remember "Freedom Summer"? 500 mostly black and Jewish college-age kids going to the South to do voter registration drives. Cultural attack. Quite a reaction, wasn't there?
Arab countries don't like the US for its culture and feel that its influence will change their world. It probably will.
AdD 1
QuoteFor less-slanted liberal analysis of current events, I prefer Howard Zinn.
Zinn is good too. Chomsky does a good job of explaining the animosity though, I always just thought people were jealous of western prosperity and freedom. Turns out we've been killin an awful lot of innocent people.
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Every jumper's dream
3 rigs and an airstream
AdD 1
QuoteI just want to put out a plea.......PLEASE come try and hijack another plane. PLEASE!!!!!!!! BEEEEEEEEAAAATCHES!!!!!
Oh my... Someone missed the story about the college student who wrote everyone beforehand and still managed to get all that crap on the plane.
Life is ez
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3 rigs and an airstream
On the dz
Every jumper's dream
3 rigs and an airstream
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