Damn Over Achievers...

[gemini 0]

Heard on the radio driving to work that a group of parents has protested the posting of the names of honor roll students because it is harming the children whose names are not included.

PC strikes again...

Blue skies,

Jim

[ozthebum 0]

I wouldn't want my name listed, and I WASN'T an honor roll student....worked out well i guess

[gemini 0]

Hey I was never one of them either...until I got back from Vietnam and went to college...Only then did I actually ever study.

Blue skies,

Jim

[AggieDave 6]

You've got to be shitting me!

Guess what, there are winners, there are loosers, there are the motivated and the bums. Get fucking used to it. If you don't work hard, you aint gonna get SHIT!

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[SkydiveMonkey 0]

If you wanted it that bad, make your kid work.

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[Nightingale 0]

LOL. Frankly, I'd think it'd be more damaging to the kids ON the list... honor roll students got beat up and trashcanned where I went to school.

[EdC 0]

How about posting the names of the parents of the kids who are failing. I think that would motivate a few people to make sure their kids are actually trying to improve.

Big Ed

[lawrocket 3]

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/nation/7790687.htm

Nashville kids are secret honor roll pupils
Are honor rolls a pat on the back for those who make it, or a violation of privacy for those who don't? Some schools aren't risking it and have stopped posting them.

BY MATT GOURAS
Associated Press

NASHVILLE - The school honor roll, a time-honored system for rewarding A students, has become an apparent source of embarrassment for some underachievers.

As a result, all Nashville schools have stopped posting honor rolls, and some are considering a ban on hanging good work in the hallways -- all at the advice of school lawyers.

After a few parents complained their children might be ridiculed for not making the list, Nashville school system lawyers warned that state privacy laws forbid releasing any academic information, good or bad, without permission.

Some schools have since put a stop to academic pep rallies. Others think they may have to cancel spelling bees.

Now schools across the state may follow Nashville's lead. The change has upset many parents who want their children recognized for hard work.

''This is as backward as it gets,'' said Miriam Mimms, who has a son at Meigs Magnet School and helps run the Parent Teacher Association. ``There has to be a way to come back from the rigidity.''

The problem appears unique to Tennessee, since most states follow federal student privacy guidelines, which allow the release of such things as honor rolls, U.S. Department of Education officials said.

`THE FIRST TIME'

''It's the first time I've heard of schools doing that,'' department spokesman Jim Bradshaw said.

But Nashville school lawyers based their decision last month on a state privacy law dating back to the 1970s, a law that's not always followed because no one challenged the honor roll status quo.

School officials are developing permission slips to give parents of the Nashville district's 69,000 students the option of having their children's work recognized. They hope to get clearance before the next grading cycle, in about six weeks at some schools.

Until then, school principals are left trying to figure out what they can and can't do.

GO `FAR BEYOND'

Sandy Johnson, chief instructional officer for the Nashville schools, says the restrictions go ``far beyond the honor role.''

''It's for anything having to do with grades and attendance or anything normally reserved just for the student or parent,'' she said.

Getting parents to sign permission slips will comply with the law, school officials said.

Christy Ballard, general counsel for the state Education Department, said she is ''getting a lot of calls'' since the Nashville decision and will recommend that all Tennessee public schools get honor roll permission slips from parents.

In Knoxville, school district spokesman Russ Oaks said they do not think posting good information about a student violates state law. He said they put such information in the same category as sports statistics.

Parents at most schools have been close to outrage over the new rule.

'So far, what we've heard parents say is, `This is crazy. Spend your time doing other things,' '' said Teresa Dennis, principal at Percy Priest Elementary School. ``It does seem really silly.''

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[RoadRash 0]

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LOL. Frankly, I'd think it'd be more damaging to the kids ON the list... honor roll students got beat up and trashcanned where I went to school.

At my school, you weren't considered somebody unless you were on the honor roll...I'm with AggieDave on this one...Buck up and take responsibility. Hard work is rewarded. Get over it people......PC crap sucks...


P.S. I was considered an overachiever...and yes, I was always on the honor roll...

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[AggieDave 6]

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and yes, I was always on the honor roll...

I was too...well, till college. In college, D is for Diploma.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[happythoughts 0]

It is funny that they can hold rallies for athletics, but not scholarship. The point of a school is...?

In the early 90's in Florida, there was a high school computing competition. Kids were given a number of programs to solve and a time limit. I was a judge in one of the first ones. It was good to see kids honored for academic success.

[FunBobby 0]

No kidding.

Ever see those bumper stickers that read "My child is an honor student at Lakeside Middle School" ?

Then there are the ones that say

"My kid beat up your honor roll student at Lakeside Middle School."

FunBobby

[lawrocket 3]

Some students deserve reparations from schools. Said Chad Clampett, a third-grader, "My son faces lots of attacks and jeering from the schoolmates because he's further ahead in school than I am."

Clampett, 32, has been held back for 25 years because he cannot pass the third Grade.

"I'd planned on attending Austin-Peay State University and getting a high education. My son calculated my earnings had I been allowed to graduate the third grade and make it to college."

Clampett filed suit in November. Nashville school district honchos did not return requests for interviews.

"I am suing for reparations for money I lost cuz the school won't let me out to work."

Said Clampett's son, "I feel bad for my dad. If my mother passes 4th grade next year, I'll be able to stay in class with her, though."

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Rebecca 0]

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How about posting the names of the parents of the kids who are failing. I think that would motivate a few people to make sure their kids are actually trying to improve.

NIIIICE!!! I like the way you think!

From what I remember, the kids who wanted on the honor roll, got on the roll by working for it, those that weren't on, didn't care.

If parents worry about their kids being hurt, they're going to act hurt. Ever fuss over a toddler who scraped his knee? I swear, this country is raising a generation of whiney little pussies.

you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk?

[n2skdvn 0]

never did good in high school with grades, graduated college with honors 3.98 gpa
and dam proud i put every sec. in to that secondary education.

if my calculations are correct SLINKY + ESCULATOR = EVERLASTING FUN
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[sdgregory 0]

Does anybody remember when Self-esteem was earned through hard work?


I was an Honors student until I blew Senior year of High School by only showing up every 40 or so days. Hey I lieved by the beach.

Now I am an honors student, I worked hard to be one and I deserve the recognition. And if somebody feels bad because they are a fuck-up, suck it up, be an adult and realize that nothing is handed to you in life.


Man, is anything that happens to a person THEIR responsibility any more?

[Sebazz1 2]

I once saw a bumper sticker that read " My child sold the test answers to your honor student "

[CrazyIvan 0]

So what's next? no more MEDALS or HEROES because that would make civilians or 'regular' people feel bad?

SOMEONE PLEASE STOP THE WORLD....I WANNA GET OFF!!!

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[sdgregory 0]

Damn now my secret is out. Oh well, now I need a self-esteem boost

[kallend 2,117]

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Does anybody remember when Self-esteem was earned through hard work?


?

You don't need to be publicized to have self esteem.

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[kallend 2,117]

Anyone heard of FERPA, aka the Buckley Amendment? I'm surprized honor rolls have lasted as long as they have (and yes, my name is still on the honor wall, 40 + years on).

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[n2skdvn 0]

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(and yes, my name is still on the honor wall, 40 + years on).

SOOOO.... your the one with the crayon!!!!!!!

(sorry kallend had to do it)

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[sdgregory 0]

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You don't need to be publicized to have self esteem.

Hmm. And I did not imply that you did. I am implying that the parents of the underachievers are so worried about their child's self esteem that instead of teaching positive work ethics, they instead try to prevent those who do succeed from being recognized. I am implying that if your self esteem is so fragile that you cannot handle when someone who achchieves is recognized then maybe you should try a little harder.

It is not my job to worry about whether you feel good about yourself. THAT is what I mean.

[Zenister 0]

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No kidding.

Ever see those bumper stickers that read "My child is an honor student at Lakeside Middle School" ?

Then there are the ones that say

"My kid beat up your honor roll student at Lakeside Middle School."

there is also the ever popular

"my delinquent is in your house screwing your honor student"

notes, not for the first time, expellees for excessive absence were not allowed to be on the honor list, no matter what their test scores actually showed

honestly thats pretty pathetic.
perhaps we need mandatory handicaps for anyone 'stronger, smarter, prettier' so that no ones self worth is ever jeopardized

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[ChasingBlueSky 0]

Then there are the kids that got beat up for being on the list....um, not that it ever happened to me, I mean I think I heard of one guy that it happened to.

Then again - 7th and 8th grade were rather simple for me. I transfered into a public Jr High after 6 years in a Catholic school...and everything in Jr High was a repeat of what had already been taught to me. Or then again, maybe it was me since I finished High School in three years (but choose to take my Sr year anyhow).

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