sunnydee123 0 #1 February 2, 2004 OK so as we ALL know, this is not the cheapest hobby to be involved in. There is always something better or simply something new we just MUST HAVE......My dilemna is this ~ did the taxes last night and will get a little chunk of change back. I can either invest in a camera and start getting some of my adventures on film OR I can invest in some coaching. What would you do if you had the cash in your hand right now - coaching or camera? Dreams become reality, one choice at a time... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #2 February 2, 2004 coaching. coaching will help you now. camera is fun, but coaching can really help you be a better skydiver. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blahr 0 #3 February 2, 2004 Your camera will let you get other peoples adventures on film, rather than your own. I'd go for the coaching myself, but thats because I need it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weegegirl 2 #4 February 2, 2004 okay, i'm gonna say camera on this one... from what i know of you... you put a LOT of work into jumping this year and you are rockin in the sky! take a breather from all the hard work. cameras are fun! you can always get coaching, but you can't go back and re-film a jump you did last year. just my thoughts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyskydiver 0 #5 February 2, 2004 CoachingLife is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnischalke 0 #6 February 2, 2004 Camera. You'd be amazed how much you can learn about flying with a camera on your head. mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #7 February 2, 2004 QuoteYour camera will let you get other peoples adventures on film, rather than your own. Not true ... as there is always firewire (Sunnydee123's SO flies a camera). Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeedToJump 0 #8 February 2, 2004 I'd go with coaching. Chances are the coach will have a camera and you can get video of your jumps that way. Also since you're freeflying, there's a ton of other freeflyers out there with cameras so most of your jumps will probably be videod anyways - you could always get someone else's video. I was debating a while ago about getting a camera but I ended up buying a second rig instead, I knew that I'd never watch all that video except maybe once right after the jump.Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #9 February 2, 2004 Coaching. A camera is usless unless you are able to fly the way you want *without* thinking about it. To fly camera well, flight must be automatic, and your focus is on the compsition, adn anticipating where the dive will go. Coaching will make you better at flying the camera when you get there....---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #10 February 2, 2004 Coaching. Wish I'd saved my neck a little longer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #11 February 2, 2004 Hmm....that's a tough one!! Learning to fly a camera will help you become a better flyer for sure, but coaching is SWEET!!! Me, I have a camera, I don't jump it all as often as I prolly should. But I get coaching every time I leave my DZ, without fail. SO......I'd go for coaching, but it's up to you. Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #12 February 2, 2004 Denise ... this is not an easy call. They both have their merits. I truly believe that flying a camera will make you a better skydiver (in the long run), but coaching will have greater short term effects. Either way, you can't really lose. What ever you choose, it'll work out in the long run. [sending subliminal messages to Denise]Camera[/sending subliminal messages to Denise] Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #13 February 2, 2004 It's small, has a lens and sits on the side of your head. ____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #14 February 2, 2004 QuoteMe, I have a camera, I don't jump it all as often as I prolly should. But I get coaching every time I leave my DZ, without fail. Jason ... if you were flying camera on that jump that you, myself and Greg made in Eloy, I would have had even more great footage to include in my recently finish video. But as it stands, you are a rock star in my video (at least very briefly in the middle of the song). There's one view (when we attempted the double spock) where you are talking, but I have no idea what you were saying. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kansasskydiver 0 #15 February 2, 2004 coaching will make you a better camera flier... coaching first then camera<--- See look, pink dolphins DO exist! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingILweenie 0 #16 February 2, 2004 If this was a one time thing i'd say go for the coaching, but the way I see it is you may not have all the money at once to be able to get a camera that often, whereas the cost of coaching can be spread out (a coaching jump here, a coaching jump there), so I say go for the camera. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #17 February 2, 2004 It falls under coaching, but I'd get some tunnel coaching. Just a thought.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #18 February 2, 2004 QuoteQuoteMe, I have a camera, I don't jump it all as often as I prolly should. But I get coaching every time I leave my DZ, without fail. Jason ... if you were flying camera on that jump that you, myself and Greg made in Eloy, I would have had even more great footage to include in my recently finish video. But as it stands, you are a rock star in my video (at least very briefly in the middle of the song). There's one view (when we attempted the double spock) where you are talking, but I have no idea what you were saying. I was saying "Double Spock!!" Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunnydee123 0 #19 February 2, 2004 AAAAHHHHH...I still don't know what to do. Let me throw this at ya. Yes, having a big chunk of change comes only a few times a year but what if a deal was put in front of you that started this dilemna. A great camera, for a great deal...Granted - great deals come along all the time, it's just being in the right place at the right time. I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT TO DO....I thought even if I had a camera and had to continue with my solos, I could understand better what I am doing (kinda sorta). It's not an easy choice. Money really sucks sometimes ...keep the feedback coming - eventually something will click and I'll know what to do. I DO like what weegee said (i think) - you can get coaching anytime but you can't recapture a jump you did yesterday ~ I did this AMAZING solo sunset jump (yes - sunset, beach and solo) over the Keys in November. It was my first beach landing as well - I would have given ANYTHING to be flying camera Dreams become reality, one choice at a time... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #20 February 2, 2004 You're talking about a video camera, right? I seriously doubt you need a thousand dollars worth of coached jumps. There is a difference between being a camera flier, and flying with a camera on your head. What's your goal? I did a lot of coached jumps and was deliberately moving towards camera jumping when I had less than a hundred jumps. Did a hundred more with all my mentors knowing what my goals were, and helping me in that direction. I was in the paid rotation for AFF and Tandems before I had 300. Then I started working on my freeflying where I could. Now I've watched Greg Gasson's video of Betsy at nationals and the stuff he gave me for the Eloy video and I'm wondering how I get to that level, if I even can. Anyhow, if you just want souvenir video of the people you jump with, get the camera. If you'd like to have people seek you out to have you video them, get some coaching and put the camera off for a while. JP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunnydee123 0 #21 February 2, 2004 If I get the camera, it would be strictly for me...I was thinking it could be a coach of sorts so I know what I do on those solos when I am a bit clueless but also the point of having it would be to capture those special memories (for me and others). I'm a dork like that and have already missed some milestone moments...but there will always be more moments . Maybe I'll sleep on it.....I've been saying I wanted a camera for the last 100 jumps, it was to be my "prize" for getting on my head. Now that I can get on my head I can almost talk myself out of it cause of the money - but I'm going to want one eventually......just have to decide on NOW or LATER Dreams become reality, one choice at a time... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #22 February 2, 2004 Denise ... another option would be to put the $$$ towards jumps. But I think you know where I stand and Duece also made some good points. Besides, lately a lot of the people I was jumping with no longer are flying their camera (some have broken camera and no money to replace them and others just decided to mix things up). So I'm not getting the good footage as I wish I was. It's hard to follow up with another movie when I don't have my footage (especially the really good footage I desire). [sending subliminal messages]Get the funky toy, you won't regret it[/sending subliminal messages] Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #23 February 2, 2004 I have'nt worn my camera on more then about 5% of my last 150 jumps. And wearing it for solos tends to be a waste of tape since all you see is the sky and then the ground at deployment. Having a camera kept me off a few really cool jumps last year just because I had to fly the camera slot on those instead. If you do get a camera remember you also need to buy the Dbox, the Cameye, extra batteries, tapes at about $7 a tape and another helmet to wear when you don't want to wear the camera for a jump.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #24 February 2, 2004 dumb question... if you're getting the camera just for you on solos, how are you going to film yourself to see what you're doing?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #25 February 2, 2004 QuoteAnd wearing it for solos tends to be a waste of tape since all you see is the sky and then the ground at deployment. I'll have mine on for solo's only for potential mals or carnage on the ground. I know that's pretty dark thinking, but what can I do? Don't get me wrong, I fly a camera for the visuals (and the fact I recently found that I have a knack for making decent skydiving movies), but I currently don't fly with a ring sight because my freeflies are still about the skydiving. The footage is only a bonus. But I guess if I was to become a tandem videographer (or a 4-way camera flier), then I'd need a ring sight. But you have good points about the other expenses of flying camera and it's really up to the individual to decide if they are ready for the commitment. And let's also not forget as it is possible to lose your camera in freefall (it recently happened to one of our videographers and I had a close call last summer) and that makes for one very expensive skydive. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
