davelepka 4 #26 November 16, 2010 Quotesometimes my legs get really sore in the plane and how i move towards the door is sometimes different than others (drags bottom across floor). so in this case it works better for me What you're telling me is that you drag the back of your rig across the floor of the plane. You hike yourself up like a turtle on your back, and slide your rig across the floor, right? That's what it would take to dislodge a pin cover flap. If you do scoot across the floor, what you need to be concerned about is your pilot chute. That is what's on the bottom of your container, and what drags across the floor if you scoot on your ass while wearing a rig. What you really need to do is find some way to manage your leg troubles, and not move around in any way that places any part of your rig in contact with anything. That's how you ensure that the pin check you get before exit is still 'good' by the time you get to the door and climb out. Being too opinionated too early will not serve you well. Respectfully disagree all you want, but your outlook on many things is very prematurely black and white. I base this on reading your responses to several threads, and being surprised at your level of certainty with your opinions. Take it however you want. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petejones45 0 #27 November 16, 2010 last i checked the main pin is awfully close to the boc i never said i laid on my back and scooted across the floor. i've weighed the pros and cons and for me its better to have a pin flap that goes up. Quote ove around in any way that places any part of your rig in contact with anything. i imagine sitting in a way were my rig isn't touching anything would be very uncomforatable in a cessna.Look out for the freefly team, Smelly Peppers. Once we get a couple years more experience we will be a force to be reckoned with in the near future! BLUES! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #28 November 16, 2010 Quotei imagine sitting in a way were my rig isn't touching anything would be very uncomforatable in a cessna. That's why I never suggested sitting in such a way that your rig doesn't touch anything. What I said was that you find a way to move around inside the airplane without letting rig contact anything. Here's the deal - you sit down in the plane, and make a comprimise by leaning your rig up against something to support you during the climb to altitude, be it a wall of the airctraft or another jumper. All along, you do your best not to slide or drag your rig against anything, and in general sit still. As exit approaches, you need to remember that your rig has been in constant contact with something, and that's why you get up and get a pin check. From that point forward, you find a way to move around in the aircraft so your rig doesn't touch anything. This way you know that what the 'checker' saw is what you take into freefall with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #29 November 16, 2010 QuoteNo offence pal, but in this case your mom wasn't right, you're not special. Excellent way to start a post, pal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryan_d_sucks 0 #30 November 22, 2010 QuoteQuote No offence pal, but in this case your mom wasn't right, you're not special. There is no 'works better for you' or 'works better for me' when it comes to pin protection. It's out of your control, and every pin is along for the same ride and exposed to the same hazzards regardless of who the jumper is. I have to disagree with that aspect of your post.. Don't you think that jumpers involved with different types of skydiving have different needs for pin protection? The guy doing large group, head down dives has a different need than the CReW dog, has a different need than the wingsuiter, has a different need than the accuracy jumper, and so on. For instance, IF I had enough balls to do CReW, I wouldn't mind using my old shitty dolphin with the velcro, downwards pointing main flap, however, I certainly wouldn't take that rig on a sitfly jump. But again, I would take it on an RW jump. ALL pins are exposed to SOME hazards. Not ALL hazards are exposed to SOME pins. Pete's preferences and the reason behind them, bogus or not, don't nullify that fact. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites