OK Serious Topic Here: How many of YOU are between the ages of 18 and 26? Are YOU ready to go to WAR?

[leroydb 0]

I am currently serving. ALOT of other countries require men to be in their military for a certain time period. I think it would be good for the USA. It might straighten up some of the fucked up civilians out there

Leroy


..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio...

[SublimeBreeze 0]

If we were being invaded I would gladly join the army and fight for my country, Slaughtering innocent people and fighting wars over oil and greed I will not do.

I am unwilling to sacrafice my life so that we can expand our oil supplies and position in world power.

The draft is a terrible terrible idea.

Let those who want to volunteer do so, leave me out of your wars.

Peace

Sean
Sean In Thailand

[TXBLKBEAR 0]

Everyone should serve. Either volunteer or be drafted. If you volunteer you get to pick your service.

Ask Not what your country can do for you, but what you can do to someone else's country.

Remember...... Freedom isn't FREE!!!!

Airborne!

[NoShitThereIWas 0]

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If we were being invaded I would gladly join the army and fight for my country, Slaughtering innocent people and fighting wars over oil and greed I will not do.

I am unwilling to sacrafice my life so that we can expand our oil supplies and position in world power.

The draft is a terrible terrible idea.

Let those who want to volunteer do so, leave me out of your wars.

Peace

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. That was the part I forgot to mention and in my opinion, you hit the nail on the head!

Roy Bacon: "Elvises, light your fires."

Sting: "Be yourself no matter what they say."

[sdgregory 0]

Just a general reply to none in particular.

I served in the Marines and am very proud of that fact. It was something I wanted since I can remember.

I have no problem with a Draft in a time of need, not sure whether it is needed here though.

I have also like many here, thought that a two year mandatory stint for all 18 year olds would be good. But now I think that it would be wrong to do. Here's why.

We live in a free country. A country where you have the freedom to choose the course of action for your life. With that freedom comes responsibility. And consequences.

To just require service from everyone would be a diservice to that freedom. There is another issue. There are some people you would not WANT to serve with. (Jeffrey Dahmer comes to mind).

Instead of a blanket service requirement, make it a trade off. You can only vote if you serve in some capacity. Then those who want to vote will serve and they will serve well to get that honorable discharge. Those who do not serve, have no vote (unless of course you can prove mental/physical inabilities to serve.)

Just my opinion and we know how that goes. . .

[JohnRich 4]

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All that says is has been in committe since 1/7/03 Not a very active push...

Well, you asked;

"Post the (reputable)links that show Congress is trying to pass this."

I think the fact that Bills have been introduced in both houses, indicates that. Of course, how far along in the process it is, and how sure a chance it has of passing, is debatable. And the large majority of Bills that are introduced do not get passed.

[benny 0]

It's hardly free if you make participating in said freedom dependent on making a specific choice.

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[kallend 2,131]

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Everyone should serve. Either volunteer or be drafted. If you volunteer you get to pick your service.

Ask Not what your country can do for you, but what you can do to someone else's country.

Remember...... Freedom isn't FREE!!!!

I will ask this question again, since the last twice no-one reponded.

How much would it have benefited the allied effort in WWII if Richard Feynman had been drafted and sent as a marine to Guadalcanal instead of going as a civilian to Los Alamos? How much would it have benefited the allied war effort if Alan Turing had been sent as an infantryman to Singapore instead of working as a civilian at Bletchley Park.

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[JohnRich 4]

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A bill introduced by a senator doesn't mean anything. I once saw a senator introduce a bill calling for a 1000% tax increase on 9mm ammo, because he personally had a thing against guns. That doesn't mean Congress supported it.

Of course it doesn't mean that all of Congress supports it. I made no such claim. It's just a Bill that has been introduced for discussion. That's how our legislature works.

I'm familiar with the 1,000% ammo tax Bills. I think that was Monyihan, and he would introduce it every single year, yet it would never go anywhere. A lot of these things are just Congressmen making certain constituents happy, and they know full well that the Bills won't pass. But they introduce them anyway to please certain groups.

S89 has zero co-sponsers, and its companion HR163 has but 13 co-sponsers. I agree that's not a lot of support. But nevertheless, it's out there. And support can increase over time.

[diablopilot 2]

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We live in a free country. A country where you have the freedom to choose the course of action for your life. With that freedom comes responsibility. And consequences.

To just require service from everyone would be a diservice to that freedom. There is another issue. There are some people you would not WANT to serve with. (Jeffrey Dahmer comes to mind).

Unfortunately much of the countr equates "freedom" with "free".

TANSTAAFL. Freedom costs.

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Instead of a blanket service requirement, make it a trade off. You can only vote if you serve in some capacity. Then those who want to vote will serve and they will serve well to get that honorable discharge. Those who do not serve, have no vote (unless of course you can prove mental/physical inabilities to serve.)

I REALLY like this idea.

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You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

[JohnRich 4]

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I'd prefer we go after the actual terrorists in a manner that might actually work rather than promoting more terrorists...

Well, that's mighty easy to say, but suppose you lay out your plan as to what alternative action you think we should be taking.

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or adopting a foreign policy that would make more people like us rather than hate us..

Once again, please descibe what changes you would make.

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I'd also prefer that Americans stopped being such pansies and recognized that every now and then people are gonna get pissed off and bomb something and there's really not much of anything we can do to stop it.

Well there's a fine self-defense policy!

So you think we should have made no counter-response to the events of 9-11-01? We should have just said "oh well!", thrown up our hands in defeat, and done nothing about the people who perpetrated the murder of 3,000 Americans?

[AggieDave 6]

Well, I had an USMC PLC contract, that is until my knew was blown to shit (ACL/MCL), they told me I was a no-joy, so I don't get to go "play".

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[TXBLKBEAR 0]

Man...... Some Americans sure are spoiled. We need a RED DAWN to wake some of you up.

Every war is OUR war as american people because the politicians (liars) sent the soldiers and we the people elected the politicians (liars).

Some people don't even vote. Busy, doing more important stuff. You know who you are and only you know. If you didn't put your 2 cents in then, don't put them in now.
I don't agree with the stupid war, but I vote, I live in this country and have been to many others, I like it here and wouldn't live in another.

If it's a draft then so be it. Vote to change it or move your ass to a country without one.

As soon as you move they will vote the draft in also.. So there.

Airborne!

[JohnRich 4]

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Don't know if you noticed a failed Ricin attack on Congress a while back . . .

I don't know if you noticed, but the latest once turned out to be much ado about nothing.

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You won't reduce US terrorism by killing lots of arabs.

It's not just generic "Arabs". But killing the terrorists who are trying to kill you will reduce the problem.

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Check out how well that's working for Israel.

Do you believe Israel should take no action against the terrorists that are attacking them?

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Perhaps we might want to concentrate on that before we invade North Korea.

Bush is not talking about invading North Korea, so why do you bring it up? The Iraqii invasion came after a decade of failed diplomacy. We've only just begun the negotiations with North Korea.

[Luv2Fall 0]

I agree with you 100%, Wendy.


Just a personal conviction of mine...........prior to my enlistment, I throughly enjoyed the freedom and the lifestyle I was living here in America. I had just enough sense to know that what I was enjoying wasn't free and that I had an obligation of some sort to serve my country or to do my part just in case we needed to be defended.....I just happen to chose the military at the time.

[kansasskydiver 0]

Well I'll step in and voice my opinion, but I don't believe in the draft actually. I think it should be an option of who wants to serve and who doesn't. In the end, I would prefer not to serve, I'd probably go home to Brazil if something ended up happening in the USA. If I was called up though, I'm the only son and my father was an only child so I wouldn't have to serve. I have enough family members, friends and loved ones in the military right now that I don't see the draft as a good thing. I do appreciate all the work everyone does though in the military, but somethings just are your cup of tea. The service just isn't one of mine...

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[NoShitThereIWas 0]

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So you want to live your life in America, enjoying all of its freedoms and prosperity, but you're not willing to serve your country for a few years in a time of national crisis.

That's a wonderful attitude you have there.

Also, JohnRich, I forgot to mention ... funny you should mention the freedoms and prosperity of American citizens. My ROOMMATE is serving in the Army and has an 8 year commitment. She is treated like shit by our country. She is on food stamps and welfare because she gets paid so little. She also has a two year old son. If she gets deployed, what happens to her son if God forbid she didn't come back? Most people serving get paid a little above poverty to serve their country. And also just out of curiosity, have you served your country?

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Sting: "Be yourself no matter what they say."

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[Paige 0]

I would be scared shitless but would do it if my country needed me!

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[Nightingale 0]

the only son thing is a myth.

http://www.snopes.com/military/onlyson.htm

[osuskydiver 0]

YEAH...what he said

By the time you read this you have already read it.

[TXBLKBEAR 0]

But the draft was on during WWII.

They were not of Draft age were they?

A lot of great people did get drafted and did great things in the war. We could what if all night long.

But, I do understand your point and respect you for it.

Airborne!

[JohnRich 4]

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First of all JohnRich, I did not say I would not support my country in a time of "NEED". Second of all, I am 30 years old and have a three year old daughter. I doubt very seriously I would get drafted but if I "HAD" to defend my country's national security interests, I would.

Fair 'nuff. Pardon me if I took your message wrong and offended you.

I was drafted in 1972 with a newborn baby. Having children doesn't exclude anyone. Your age, on the other hand, would, per those Bills that were introduced.

[JohnRich 4]

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John Kerry voted against nearly every modern piece of military hardware currently being used to fight effectively and spare American lives.

With all do respect, didn't John Kerry earn a purple heart for being wounded in Vietnam?

That doesn't change the fact of his voting record after he was elected to Congress.

If we were fighting the war against terrorism now, with the tools that John Kerry would have allowed the military to have, there would be a lot more fatalities.

[NoShitThereIWas 0]

OK fair enough to you back, you served your country. You are entitled to your opinion. Sorry I think I am a little premenstrual today and a little hyped about this topic. I intended no offense either.

Roy Bacon: "Elvises, light your fires."

Sting: "Be yourself no matter what they say."

[JohnRich 4]

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fighting wars over oil and greed I will not do.

So, what kind of vehicle do you drive, and how many miles do you drive each year?

Do you have central heat and air in your home?

How many kilowatts of electricity do you use each month?