Ron 10 #1 January 28, 2004 OK, I went back to school. I should have done it years ago, but oh well life happens...Instead of school I did 3,000 jumps. Now I'm back and just took a math self assesment....I did REALLY BAD. Trust me BAD. The fact is that college algebra is what kept me from finishing school 10 years ago. Well I HAVE to take these courses, and even though they are mths away...I need to get a start on getting my brain in gear. Any ideas?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmcd308 0 #2 January 28, 2004 Actually do the math to calculate a spot for a skydiver who wants to go in in the peas, one who wants to open at 3000 and fly directly into the wind the whole time his canopy is open, and one who wants to open at 3000, cut away at 2500, and have his canopy land in the peas. Make up a winds aloft forecast. Brent ---------------------------------- www.jumpelvis.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #3 January 28, 2004 Yep, as a former math major, here is what I did. All colleges have a "math lab". They've got a grad student in there doing penance. Go in there after class and do all the homework problems. Don't be shy about asking for help, that is what the person is there for. Don't spend any time being stuck. If you do all the homework problems, you will ace the class. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #4 January 28, 2004 1. do what I did and find a school with no math requirement. I could take any mixture of math and science to fulfill two requirements. I took two sciences and was done. 2. get a high school algebra book and a tutor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydivingNurse 0 #5 January 28, 2004 There are a few really good math tutoring software packages that you can get at a computer store. I have one on my pc that goes from grade school level basics all the way to college level courses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #6 January 28, 2004 In math, practice to mastery. It takes practice, practice and more practice. That's all I can say. Practice. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boxingrrl 0 #7 January 28, 2004 Does your school offer "developmental" math classes? My community college requires that you take one before taking college algebra if you don't score so well on the assessment. They can be really helpful. Also, investigate whether the school has a "math learning room" or math lab. Either place may provide worksheets and assistance as necessary. The sucky part about math is that you really just have to do it-- and practice doing it over and over, to get it. I'm struggling through a Business Calculus class right now, but it wasn't long ago that I took the Algebras after being away from school for over 10 years. You can do it! Congrats and good luck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #8 January 28, 2004 Ummmmm, ask Kallend to teach you? He's right there . . . Kelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #9 January 28, 2004 QuoteActually do the math to calculate a spot for a skydiver who wants to go in in the peas, one who wants to open at 3000 and fly directly into the wind the whole time his canopy is open, and one who wants to open at 3000, cut away at 2500, and have his canopy land in the peas. Make up a winds aloft forecast. Maybe HeatherB should be doing that"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benny 0 #10 January 28, 2004 Quote1. do what I did and find a school with no math requirement. I could take any mixture of math and science to fulfill two requirements. I took two sciences and was done. 2. get a high school algebra book and a tutor. What sciences did you take that didn't require you to do some math? Math is the foundation of science after all... Never go to a DZ strip show. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #11 January 28, 2004 Oceanography and Genetics. Most math we got into was probability of inheritance of recessive genes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #12 February 17, 2004 QuoteThere are a few really good math tutoring software packages that you can get at a computer store. I have one on my pc that goes from grade school level basics all the way to college level courses. Got a name of one? All the ones I find are from Mid School to High School...Not that they would not help, but if there are some that go to college level..even better."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lister55 0 #13 February 17, 2004 All the ones I find are from Mid School to High School...Not that they would not help, but if there are some that go to college level..even better. Quote There are several. I am a math major and also a tutor at the local college. The software we have is expensive so most likely out of the picture. But trust me there is software out there for the college level. I have one at home (sorry cant remember the name) that goes through calculus. Just have to look. Try going to tle local University and see what they have in the book store. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #14 February 17, 2004 QuoteThere are several. I am a math major and also a tutor at the local college. The software we have is expensive so most likely out of the picture. But trust me there is software out there for the college level. I have one at home (sorry cant remember the name) that goes through calculus. Just have to look. Try going to tle local University and see what they have in the book store. Here I am going to show that I am stupid. There was one that went to Calculus...But it said it was high school level. What is the difference between High school Algebra, and College? Define expensive...Remember I skydive. I will run by the local University...USF here in Tampa."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Malfunction 0 #15 February 17, 2004 Use "New Math" as your starting point: "Every answer is right as long as you get an answer and remember that numbers are relative." Or you could take the Fruedian view of math... "You are not good at math because you mom didn't change your diaper one day when you were a baby." Then there is the skydiver's view of math: "60 seconds to the end of your life, 13000 feet to the ground, 7 other jumpers with me. What was the jump sequence again?" Remember, the professor is only 1 chapter ahead of you and the answers are in the back of the book... I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nightjumps 1 #16 February 17, 2004 QuoteWhat sciences did you take that didn't require you to do some math? Math is the foundation of science after all... I did the same thing as VanillaSkyGirl. I went to a college that required you take either 9 hours of Math, 9 hours of Science or a combination of both at the lower level. I chose the science path. Took Biology, Environmental Biology and Zoology. I loved Zoology and probably could have majored in that, but that would have required.....more math. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lewmonst 0 #17 February 17, 2004 Hey Ron, If you know how to do problems and just make lots of mistakes, then just practice a lot and check your answers. If you don't know how to start the problems or do them at all, you will need help. You can either try to read the math textbook (which is hard for most), try to software tutorials (which work well for some and not so well for others) or get a tutor or take a class. I teach Algebra. College Algebra is the same as High School Algebra, except the context of the problems. The algorithms are all the same. If you have a couple problems you're not sure how to go about, PM or IM me and I'll help you. If you feel overwhelmed with a whole lot of material you don't understand, I'd suggest getting a tutor or taking a more introductory class to get your brain started again. I help my students via IM all the time. they think it's kewl. iamalewser peace lewhttp://www.exitshot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,146 #18 February 17, 2004 I'll swap you some tunnel coaching for some problem solving coaching!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #19 February 17, 2004 If there is no big difference between High School, and College math...I will get a program. The problem is I have not taken math for 10 years. Fractions are like greek to me right now. I was never strong in math...due to mutual hatred..I hated it, and I am pretty sure it hated me as well. I will look at some programs, and if I really get screwed...Trust me it will be known. And I'll Im the hell out of everyone. Algebra kept me from finishing school 10 years ago....Im doing it now. But I have tll October till I have to take the classes...So I plan on getting ready."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lister55 0 #20 February 17, 2004 There was one that went to Calculus...But it said it was high school level. What is the difference between High school Algebra, and College? Quote Honstly that will be good enough. The difference between high school and college is not that great and the differences you will learn in college anyway. My advice is to take the entrance exam to a local 2 year school, take the remedial math classes and go from there. The majority of people who have taken time off from school start in the remidial classes. Including myself. Math is a "use it ot lose it" subject. However you can re-learn it and be successful. God knows if I can .... You can. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #21 February 17, 2004 QuoteI'll swap you some tunnel coaching for some problem solving coaching! Oh, that is so done. By the time I am done with you......Airspeed will be calling you On another note... What do you think of the Kyosho Caliber .30?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelel01 1 #22 February 17, 2004 Just had to stick my nose in here to say hi to Ron . . . it's been a while, my friend. I need someone to explain dating and the DZ to me again . . . I'll trade you that for math help! Kelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lister55 0 #23 February 17, 2004 Dont listen to kelly all she knows is that 1+1 = 2 boobies!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelel01 1 #24 February 17, 2004 True that, Mark . . . what was that . . .? Oh yeah, BOOBIES! Now, back to the math . . . sorry for the interruption! Just here to liven things up a bit, and I know Ron doesn't mind. 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Ron 10 #14 February 17, 2004 QuoteThere are several. I am a math major and also a tutor at the local college. The software we have is expensive so most likely out of the picture. But trust me there is software out there for the college level. I have one at home (sorry cant remember the name) that goes through calculus. Just have to look. Try going to tle local University and see what they have in the book store. Here I am going to show that I am stupid. There was one that went to Calculus...But it said it was high school level. What is the difference between High school Algebra, and College? Define expensive...Remember I skydive. I will run by the local University...USF here in Tampa."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malfunction 0 #15 February 17, 2004 Use "New Math" as your starting point: "Every answer is right as long as you get an answer and remember that numbers are relative." Or you could take the Fruedian view of math... "You are not good at math because you mom didn't change your diaper one day when you were a baby." Then there is the skydiver's view of math: "60 seconds to the end of your life, 13000 feet to the ground, 7 other jumpers with me. What was the jump sequence again?" Remember, the professor is only 1 chapter ahead of you and the answers are in the back of the book... I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nightjumps 1 #16 February 17, 2004 QuoteWhat sciences did you take that didn't require you to do some math? Math is the foundation of science after all... I did the same thing as VanillaSkyGirl. I went to a college that required you take either 9 hours of Math, 9 hours of Science or a combination of both at the lower level. I chose the science path. Took Biology, Environmental Biology and Zoology. I loved Zoology and probably could have majored in that, but that would have required.....more math. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewmonst 0 #17 February 17, 2004 Hey Ron, If you know how to do problems and just make lots of mistakes, then just practice a lot and check your answers. If you don't know how to start the problems or do them at all, you will need help. You can either try to read the math textbook (which is hard for most), try to software tutorials (which work well for some and not so well for others) or get a tutor or take a class. I teach Algebra. College Algebra is the same as High School Algebra, except the context of the problems. The algorithms are all the same. If you have a couple problems you're not sure how to go about, PM or IM me and I'll help you. If you feel overwhelmed with a whole lot of material you don't understand, I'd suggest getting a tutor or taking a more introductory class to get your brain started again. I help my students via IM all the time. they think it's kewl. iamalewser peace lewhttp://www.exitshot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #18 February 17, 2004 I'll swap you some tunnel coaching for some problem solving coaching!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #19 February 17, 2004 If there is no big difference between High School, and College math...I will get a program. The problem is I have not taken math for 10 years. Fractions are like greek to me right now. I was never strong in math...due to mutual hatred..I hated it, and I am pretty sure it hated me as well. I will look at some programs, and if I really get screwed...Trust me it will be known. And I'll Im the hell out of everyone. Algebra kept me from finishing school 10 years ago....Im doing it now. But I have tll October till I have to take the classes...So I plan on getting ready."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lister55 0 #20 February 17, 2004 There was one that went to Calculus...But it said it was high school level. What is the difference between High school Algebra, and College? Quote Honstly that will be good enough. The difference between high school and college is not that great and the differences you will learn in college anyway. My advice is to take the entrance exam to a local 2 year school, take the remedial math classes and go from there. The majority of people who have taken time off from school start in the remidial classes. Including myself. Math is a "use it ot lose it" subject. However you can re-learn it and be successful. God knows if I can .... You can. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #21 February 17, 2004 QuoteI'll swap you some tunnel coaching for some problem solving coaching! Oh, that is so done. By the time I am done with you......Airspeed will be calling you On another note... What do you think of the Kyosho Caliber .30?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelel01 1 #22 February 17, 2004 Just had to stick my nose in here to say hi to Ron . . . it's been a while, my friend. I need someone to explain dating and the DZ to me again . . . I'll trade you that for math help! Kelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lister55 0 #23 February 17, 2004 Dont listen to kelly all she knows is that 1+1 = 2 boobies!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelel01 1 #24 February 17, 2004 True that, Mark . . . what was that . . .? Oh yeah, BOOBIES! Now, back to the math . . . sorry for the interruption! Just here to liven things up a bit, and I know Ron doesn't mind. Kelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,146 #25 February 17, 2004 QuoteQuoteI'll swap you some tunnel coaching for some problem solving coaching! Oh, that is so done. By the time I am done with you......Airspeed will be calling you I already stood next to them on the podium once. ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Ron 10 #21 February 17, 2004 QuoteI'll swap you some tunnel coaching for some problem solving coaching! Oh, that is so done. By the time I am done with you......Airspeed will be calling you On another note... What do you think of the Kyosho Caliber .30?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #22 February 17, 2004 Just had to stick my nose in here to say hi to Ron . . . it's been a while, my friend. I need someone to explain dating and the DZ to me again . . . I'll trade you that for math help! Kelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lister55 0 #23 February 17, 2004 Dont listen to kelly all she knows is that 1+1 = 2 boobies!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #24 February 17, 2004 True that, Mark . . . what was that . . .? Oh yeah, BOOBIES! Now, back to the math . . . sorry for the interruption! Just here to liven things up a bit, and I know Ron doesn't mind. Kelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #25 February 17, 2004 QuoteQuoteI'll swap you some tunnel coaching for some problem solving coaching! Oh, that is so done. By the time I am done with you......Airspeed will be calling you I already stood next to them on the podium once. ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
