Bigwallmaster 0 #1 February 19, 2004 That post about outsourcing got me to thinking about those bullies over at Walmart. Their constant pursuit of cheaper prices, and their constant bullying of vendors is a major contributor to our manufacturing jobs going overseas. Believe I know. I own a steel company in Los Angeles, and alot of the metal stampers I sell are just scared to death of companies like Walmart, Target, and Home Depot. They are afraid to raise prices to these companies, for fear that they will start buying their products from China and the likes. Thats especially scary in my industry, with the price of steel rapidly increasing. Unfortunately Bush will probably win term again. Hopefully he will realize the impacts of cheap labor from overseas, and do something to curb this unfair trade imbalance. bigwall Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #2 February 19, 2004 Yep....I pointed out in another thread earlier this week that the lowest 33% of income earners in the US have seen income reductions of about 20% over the past 10 years. It's because the small, retail shops and suppliers they used to work for have been driven out of business and they're forced to work for companies such as those you mentioned at lower rates because they have a (damn...i forget the word, means a buyers monopoly...it's some kind of ...oly). Just as monopolies render capitalism ineffective...so does the other ...oly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #3 February 19, 2004 >Their constant pursuit of cheaper prices, and their constant bullying > of vendors is a major contributor to our manufacturing jobs going > overseas. Yep. And they have more purchasing power than most third world countries. I avoid going there as much as possible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #4 February 20, 2004 Quotethe other ...oly. It's not an -oly. The word you're looking for is Monopsony.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #5 February 20, 2004 I don't mean to be the selfish jerkhere - and I know that I am probably going to get flamed for this, but Wal Mart is just doing what is in their best interest...... I can go to WalMart & buy everything I need for a fraction of the price of stuff at the Mall, and in a College town like ours, they provide hundred upon hundreds of jobs - at rather competitive wages...... Just think of it all as that "Invisible Hand" that Adam Smith was talking about in ___The Wealth of Nations____=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #6 February 20, 2004 QuoteHopefully he will realize the impacts of cheap labor from overseas Ah, so you feel the weakening of the US dollar compared to the Euro is a good thing, yes? Because this makes imports more expensive (and exportation more profitable), encouraging domestic production. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #7 February 20, 2004 >and I know that I am probably going to get flamed for this, but Wal > Mart is just doing what is in their best interest . . . Oh, definitely. They just want to make money. If you like the way they do it, then by all means, shop there. Compared to other local supermarkets and deparment stores I don't think they treat their employees very well, but that's just me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #8 February 20, 2004 QuoteQuoteHopefully he will realize the impacts of cheap labor from overseas Ah, so you feel the weakening of the US dollar compared to the Euro is a good thing, yes? Because this makes imports more expensive (and exportation more profitable), encouraging domestic production. arrrrgggg... economics.... I... must... get... away...Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #9 February 20, 2004 I do beleive Diablopilot is boycotting walmart....but for different reasons. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #10 February 20, 2004 QuoteI don't mean to be the selfish jerkhere - and I know that I am probably going to get flamed for this, but Wal Mart is just doing what is in their best interest...... I can go to WalMart & buy everything I need for a fraction of the price of stuff at the Mall, and in a College town like ours, they provide hundred upon hundreds of jobs - at rather competitive wages...... Yeah, but at what cost. I refuse to shop there because there is no service. The people who work there don't give two fucks about thire jobs or helping anyone. Out of something on the shelf? Oh well. Need a price on something that isn't marked? Oh well. Couldn't change your oil because we ran out of oil filters? (when there was one sitting on the shelf!) Oh well. You had to wait in line for 20 minutes for one cashire to ring you up because there were two more sitting on their fat asses chatting to her? Oh well. We forgot to put the drain plug back in your jeep and the oly reason you didn't destroy the motor is because you were smart enough to check prior to driving away? Oh well. I hate Wal-mart.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #11 February 20, 2004 there are those who work there that do care. My wife works in the pharmacy and get treated like a bad dog most every day, and for some unknown reason goes back everyday. but she is NOT the norm. as far as their auto center goes.. they are idiots. I was working in a shop about 1mi from a wally world when this lady stopped in saying her oil light had come one... upon inspection the drain plug was missing. We belive it was installed, and never tightened.Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #12 February 20, 2004 Quotethere are those who work there that do care. My wife works in the pharmacy and get treated like a bad dog most every day, and for some unknown reason goes back everyday. but she is NOT the norm. I'm sure she is one of the few good ones. I applaud for that. Unfortunately Wal-Mart not only seems to attract the Lowest Common Denominator in staff but the same in customers. Another reason I won't go. She's a trouper for sticking it out that's for sure.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lister55 0 #13 February 20, 2004 We forgot to put the drain plug back in your jeep and the oly reason you didn't destroy the motor is because you were smart enough to check prior to driving away? Oh well. Quote Know how you feel there. My wife went there (with out me knowing, I would have told her no way) and had her oil changed. when she got home, oil was dripping all over the driveway. Go under to find this blue crap all over the drain plug. The blue crap is a sealant that you can buy to try and fix problems like this. They stripped the drain plug threads putting it back on with air tools. I had to buy a new oil pan. Not cheap. Also, when I confronted them they said they didnt do it. I filed a formal complaint with the company and thier lawyers said there was no way to prove that they did it. Even though this truck never had an oil leak before or blue crap on the drain plug. So they basically told me to F*** off. Great company!! So yeah I boycot them to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #14 February 20, 2004 QuoteQuotethe other ...oly. It's not an -oly. The word you're looking for is Monopsony. Thank you...it's been driving me nuts!!!! Not really...forgot all about it once I left the thread...but thank you anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites yardhippie 0 #15 February 20, 2004 actually if you want to get your way at a walmart is to raise a stink w/ other customers around... yell for a manger... they'll damn near give you a BJ just to be quiet. We had a run in at a WM in dallas... short version: roadhazard on tires purch at WM. killed two on wood pieces in freeway... left for 1.5 days at WM... returned to p/u... only replaced ONE of the tires.... tell us oh well... we only had one anyway soooo... I say well the guy went and got TWO of them when I was here before, where did the OTHER one go. Wife get pissed and say im going to find the store manager... by this time the dept manager was there saying different tire but same size... blah, blah, blah... now there is a small gathering of customers listening to me raise hell... manager show up... says: find the tire... put it on NOW... and get these people out of here. Oh ans we also got a 25 dollar gift certificate for our time. oh... and did you know you can name your own price at the cash register?Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #16 February 20, 2004 Had my tires rotated at KMart auto service once, then drove to work. Came out of work and there was a note on my windshield telling me to check my tires....2 were missing 2 lugnuts, 1 missing 3, and the other only had one left. They forgot to tighten them and they fell off on the way to work. I've avoided Walmart since they've existed. I've been there 4 times. Twice in Rantoul, once by Crosskeys....and the first time I ever went to Walmart was the one in South Philly. People were beating their kids in the store and there were guys wearing colors out front. To bastardize Rainman....... Fuck Walmart Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites b1jercat 0 #17 February 20, 2004 Quote I don't mean to be the selfish jerkhere - and I know that I am probably going to get flamed for this, but Wal Mart is just doing what is in their best interest...... I can go to WalMart & buy everything I need for a fraction of the price of stuff at the Mall, and in a College town like ours, they provide hundred upon hundreds of jobs - at rather competitive wages...... Just think of it all as that "Invisible Hand" that Adam Smith was talking about in ___The Wealth of Nations____ Why shouldn't you get good prices, if you pay taxes you are already subsidizing walmart employees with public health care and in many cases food stamps, Its nice of you to pick up the slack for walmart. If you think walmart pays competitive wages I'd like to hire you. Here where I live we are doing everything we can to keep walmart out. blues jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
PhillyKev 0 #14 February 20, 2004 QuoteQuotethe other ...oly. It's not an -oly. The word you're looking for is Monopsony. Thank you...it's been driving me nuts!!!! Not really...forgot all about it once I left the thread...but thank you anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #15 February 20, 2004 actually if you want to get your way at a walmart is to raise a stink w/ other customers around... yell for a manger... they'll damn near give you a BJ just to be quiet. We had a run in at a WM in dallas... short version: roadhazard on tires purch at WM. killed two on wood pieces in freeway... left for 1.5 days at WM... returned to p/u... only replaced ONE of the tires.... tell us oh well... we only had one anyway soooo... I say well the guy went and got TWO of them when I was here before, where did the OTHER one go. Wife get pissed and say im going to find the store manager... by this time the dept manager was there saying different tire but same size... blah, blah, blah... now there is a small gathering of customers listening to me raise hell... manager show up... says: find the tire... put it on NOW... and get these people out of here. Oh ans we also got a 25 dollar gift certificate for our time. oh... and did you know you can name your own price at the cash register?Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #16 February 20, 2004 Had my tires rotated at KMart auto service once, then drove to work. Came out of work and there was a note on my windshield telling me to check my tires....2 were missing 2 lugnuts, 1 missing 3, and the other only had one left. They forgot to tighten them and they fell off on the way to work. I've avoided Walmart since they've existed. I've been there 4 times. Twice in Rantoul, once by Crosskeys....and the first time I ever went to Walmart was the one in South Philly. People were beating their kids in the store and there were guys wearing colors out front. To bastardize Rainman....... Fuck Walmart Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #17 February 20, 2004 Quote I don't mean to be the selfish jerkhere - and I know that I am probably going to get flamed for this, but Wal Mart is just doing what is in their best interest...... I can go to WalMart & buy everything I need for a fraction of the price of stuff at the Mall, and in a College town like ours, they provide hundred upon hundreds of jobs - at rather competitive wages...... Just think of it all as that "Invisible Hand" that Adam Smith was talking about in ___The Wealth of Nations____ Why shouldn't you get good prices, if you pay taxes you are already subsidizing walmart employees with public health care and in many cases food stamps, Its nice of you to pick up the slack for walmart. If you think walmart pays competitive wages I'd like to hire you. Here where I live we are doing everything we can to keep walmart out. blues jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
