Patriotism/Guns

[Kennedy 0]

See, this is why you shoulda left my hijack in the thread...

But I think we can agree on the big picture.

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[PhillyKev 0]

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Then belong to a church that only marries fertile men and fertile women.

Are you trying to infringe on my rights. Are you trying to tell me that because my sperm aint' spunky I can't be a catholic? I mean, it's ok if you discriminate against those fags, but damn, I never thought I would be the one to be discriminated against. After all, I'm normal.

[Kennedy 0]

You are SOOOOOOOOO gonna get flamed by people who don't know what sarcasm is....

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[Deuce 1]

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Then belong to a church that only marries fertile men and fertile women.

I want videotape of that particular rite.

[PhillyKev 0]

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You are SOOOOOOOOO gonna get flamed by people who don't know what sarcasm is....

I only insulted gays, catholics and the infertile. I wasn't even trying.

[DBCOOPER 5]

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You are SOOOOOOOOO gonna get flamed by people who don't know what sarcasm is....

.....or anything about the catholic church

Replying to: Re: Stall On Jump Run Emergency Procedure? by billvon

If the plane is unrecoverable then exiting is a very very good idea.

[Kennedy 0]

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Think that's absurd? Think marriage is a holy sacrament, intended to raise children in a loving environment? Then belong to a church that only marries fertile men and fertile women.

What, they gonna make her get knocked up before they marry so we all know they're both fertile?

That would be the Church of Alabama! Home of shotguns and shotgun-weddnings.

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[Deuce 1]

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Are you trying to tell me that because my sperm aint' spunky I can't be a catholic?

No Philly, you can't be Catholic cause I said so



We're like the Masons, one black ball and you're through!

[PhillyKev 0]

Actually, isn't it a legitimate reason for anullment in the catholic church of the woman is barren? At least I think it was until the recent past.

[billvon 3,116]

>Actually, isn't it a legitimate reason for anullment in the catholic church of the woman is barren?

You're not gonna start that whole shaving thing again, are you?

[Deuce 1]

Yep.

But with enough influence, you can buy off a Bishop and get a marriage annulled even after you've had children.

[PhillyKev 0]

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But with enough influence,

I was so gonna break one of the rules of this place with that. Think it's time for me to sign off.

[skydyvr 0]

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Is it your position that if two partners are not married they will not have intercourse?

I'm all for civil unions between any two consenting sane people - man and woman, man and man, relatives. It's a legal union only, and makes it easier to collect survivor's benefits, have power of attorney when the other is incapacitated etc. For the most part it's not that useful between relatives because they already have many of those rights.

Any two adults can achieve the above mentioned legal arrangements without a government sponsored "union" between them.

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Then for marriages - leave that up to the churches.

Amen brother. But I do find it interesting that you don't think incest and bestiality should be illegal.

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[PhillyKev 0]

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Any two adults can achieve the above mentioned legal arrangements without a government sponsored "union" between them.

After spending a whole hell of a lot more on attorney fees than a marriage license costs. And what are they supposed to do, carry all their legal agreements around all of the time in case one is hospitalized so they can visit them? And what about that one contingency their lawyer didn't include in the paperwork that is automatically extended to married couples?

[Guest]

I agree, and if you check my history, you will see that I stated that the government shouldn't be in the business of deciding who is or isn't married.

And as for Godwin - I didn't invoke the "H" word...

mh

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"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

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>Why shouldn't the same argument be applied to consenting
>partakers of incest?

Is it your position that if two partners are not married they will not have intercourse?

I'm all for civil unions between any two consenting sane people - man and woman, man and man, relatives. It's a legal union only, and makes it easier to collect survivor's benefits, have power of attorney when the other is incapacitated etc. For the most part it's not that useful between relatives because they already have many of those rights.

Then for marriages - leave that up to the churches. Let them marry whoever they want. Want to marry your dog? Go to the Church of the Holy Schnauzer. Think that's absurd? Think marriage is a holy sacrament, intended to raise children in a loving environment? Then belong to a church that only marries fertile men and fertile women.

For the most part, I tend to agree. The major sticking point, or so it appears, is the "churchy" aspect versus the "legal" aspect.

Obviously, the media haven't done anything to mollify or downplay this distinction; rather, they seem to have hyped it.

There is a big difference between a legal contract between consenting individuals and a sanctified union as provided by a religious establishment.

I think the silliness of all this would be dissipated quite a bit if the media went to the trouble to distinguish these sorts of things, but that wouldn't sell newspapers.

mh

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"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."