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She was complaining about my remarks in the "cold sore" thread. I feel that they were justified, and I will make them to her (or anyone else's) faces.

Besides, I never get crass and threaten people, but I do call "Bullshit" on this issue.



Ah, this I was not aware of. Thanks MM. :)
This is another thing that comes with being on the net. If you can't take it, don't dish it. I haven't seen either of those threads, but with all due respect, IF it's true you're making false remarks about people, don't expect others to be kind to you.

Personally I hate it when people start new threads to point fingers at others. For instance, there was a thread started not too long ago by someone who had a problem with jealousy of other jumpers and their occupational priveleges. Clearly it was a follow up on some remarks from a different thread, and was aimed at the poster of that one. If you're going to start a big issue (long thread) because you're pissed that someone made a harsh remark to or about you, then perhaps you should learn to PM and not seek the attention of the rest of the world. All you're going to get in this situation is a world of shit from other posters, and I'll tell ya now, though I don't like being unkind, I'll be one of them. :|

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A few years ago, dropzone.com was a beautiful oasis on the internet.

However, if you ever study human behaviour you'll find out that there is a certain percentage of total a-holes that permeate the planet (let's call it 1 in 1000). So, if you have a community of 500, you only have a 50/50 chance of there being 1, but if you have a community of say, 26,000, then you probably have at least 26 total asshats you have to keep in check.

We've a victim of our own success.


Quade I got to correct you on that one only because its fun to do so. Assuming your first number is correct that 1 out of every 1000 is and a-hole, then in a community of 500 the chance of there being 1 a-hole is 39.3622%. The calculation in 26,000 is hard to get a percentage for because it requires far more digits than my TI-85 has. Its somewhere along the line of {(0.999)^(25,974) * [(.001)^26]}/{1}, which I believe ends up equalling something like 5.17596322068 E -90.
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but I am afraid everything I say will get back to my SO, as it always seems to as well. People just have to tattle, and when they do they always throw in a little extra something for effect!



Do you really think that your behavior here isn't going to get back to Carl? I don't think he lives in a cave, and I'm sure he knows how to use a computer to access these forums.
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And straight from one of HH's posts:

"Post under the assumption that your boss, future boss, girlfriend, wife, ex, mother, children and the government can access these forums. Think before you hit Post."

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=922417;#922417

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It is easy to be mean to people when they are not face to face with you. I am willing to bet that these people who are mean wouldn't have the guts to be that way in person.

I'm a mean motherf**ker in real life too. I have no problem telling anyone how I really feel. Online or not. If your bigger and can whoop my ass. I just say it from a farther distance. gives me a head start

On the other hand there are alot of people like that though. So I'm normally a nice guy... Really I am, I'm allergic to pain.. :P



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Assuming your first number is correct that 1 out of every 1000 is and a-hole, then in a community of 500 the chance of there being 1 a-hole is 39.3622%. The calculation in 26,000 is hard to get a percentage for because it requires far more digits than my TI-85 has. Its somewhere along the line of {(0.999)^(25,974) * [(.001)^26]}/{1}, which I believe ends up equalling something like 5.17596322068 E -90.



Close, but you read the instructions wrong - 1 in 500 is 30.35%. (1 or more is 39.36%)

For a community of 26,000:
there is most likely 25 or 26 people (odd for each 7.8% individually) With a 50% chance of there being more than 25 (50% chance there being less than 26)
there is more than a one percent chance for there being between 16 and 36 assholes (individual stats for each number)
there is 90% chance of there being some number of assholes between 18 and 32
or a 90% chance of there being at least 20 or more assholes
but only one asshole out of 26,000 when normal odds are 1 in a 1000? you are right, it's practically zero

but I'm pretty sure there's only one really bored asshole with minitab on his computer.......

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So, can we all at least agree that as the population increases, generally speaking so will the number of asshats?



In theory. ;)

In actuality, the only thing that goes up is the number of people whom may think a person is an asshat. :P

Some may think I am an asshat (I hope not, but for arguement....)

I may think they are asshats. (Once again, in theory)

Which one is really the asshat?

Kinda like the old saying, beauty is in the eye of the beerholder, right? B|
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Assuming your first number is correct that 1 out of every 1000 is and a-hole, then in a community of 500 the chance of there being 1 a-hole is 39.3622%. The calculation in 26,000 is hard to get a percentage for because it requires far more digits than my TI-85 has. Its somewhere along the line of {(0.999)^(25,974) * [(.001)^26]}/{1}, which I believe ends up equalling something like 5.17596322068 E -90.



Close, but you read the instructions wrong - 1 in 500 is 30.35%. (1 or more is 39.36%)

For a community of 26,000:
there is most likely 25 or 26 people (odd for each 7.8% individually) With a 50% chance of there being more than 25 (50% chance there being less than 26)
there is more than a one percent chance for there being between 16 and 36 assholes (individual stats for each number)
there is 90% chance of there being some number of assholes between 18 and 32
or a 90% chance of there being at least 20 or more assholes
but only one asshole out of 26,000 when normal odds are 1 in a 1000? you are right, it's practically zero

but I'm pretty sure there's only one really bored asshole with minitab on his computer.......


ok I stand corrected. On the first part I should have given a little more throught because that was obviously. On the second where you gave ranges, such as probability between 16 and 36 or 18 and 32 or any specific range for that matter, I am assuming you used a integral with limits to figure out. I vaguely remember that formula but not enough to use it at this point. The last time I saw it was about 8 or 9 years ago. Are you and actuary or a University math professor? Or do you just happen to remember that formula? I wish I could remember all that stuff but when you don't use it you start to forget. I even find myself having to look up the formula everytime I need to figure out an interest charge that was assessed compounding continously.
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So, can we all at least agree that as the population increases, generally speaking so will the number of asshats?



In theory. ;)

In actuality, the only thing that goes up is the number of people whom may think a person is an asshat. :P

Some may think I am an asshat (I hope not, but for arguement....)

I may think they are asshats. (Once again, in theory)

Which one is really the asshat?

Kinda like the old saying, beauty is in the eye of the beerholder, right? B|



I have a general rule about asshats: I figure that about 2 out of 7 people I meet are asshats. If the number is higher, then there's something wrong with me. If the number is lower, then I'm lucky. :P
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'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
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I, on the other hand, think nobody is an asshat until I meet them in person. Then, and only then, do they get a chance to prove themselves to be true asshats.

Nobody has been able to do it yet.

Not even Treetop. ;)
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Hey Steel - I was just mocking you for mocking quade. I have the most boring job in the world. I use stats all the time and teach it at work when the official instructors need help. (it's engineering and sometimes we do use data to make decisions - my job is to make sure people don't misuse data to make the decisions they want to make instead of what they really are supposed to make).

This is a great example for the next class when we go through basic stats background. (Unless there's some PC wierdo in the class that doesn't like the term 'asshole').

The type of stat you're working with uses the "binomial distribution". That's the one most skydiver stats question gets driven to. I use the software package Minitab. It's very powerful as long as you understand what's behind the theory.

I got caught up in a stats discussion on another thread and got pretty tired of it, some I'm off this subject now. If you want any info on the softward, PM me and I'll help.

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Hey, you don't have to kiss up to me, it's Michael that gets you the free demo jumpsB|



Yea, yea. Thing is, you look sooooo much better than him. Oh, yea, he's got a girlfriend now, and I'm not gonna play second fiddle. ;)

Now, if he were to dye his hair red.....

bwahahahahaha!
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Hey, you don't have to kiss up to me, it's Michael that gets you the free demo jumpsB|



Yea, yea. Thing is, you look sooooo much better than him. Oh, yea, he's got a girlfriend now, and I'm not gonna play second fiddle. ;)

Now, if he were to dye his hair red.....

bwahahahahaha!



Jim. Is there something you are trying to tell us?

Was it dark in there?
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Why are so many people so mean spirited and critical on this forum?



Its a perfect place to express what you mean and tell people how stupied they are whith out ever meeting them;)

Most of thouse you see post attacks never met,and probaly wont...just my oppinion..

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Hey, you don't have to kiss up to me, it's Michael that gets you the free demo jumpsB|



Yea, yea. Thing is, you look sooooo much better than him. Oh, yea, he's got a girlfriend now, and I'm not gonna play second fiddle. ;)

Now, if he were to dye his hair red.....

bwahahahahaha!



Jim. Is there something you are trying to tell us?

Was it dark in there?



I thought it was sunshine's tent. Honest! ;)
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