Vallerina 2 #1 February 25, 2004 I know that things don't come across well on the internet sometimes, so I'm just going to clarify that this isn't judgmental...this is pure ignorance! I really don't understand where in the Bible it states that one sin is worse than another. Everyone sins. Just by judging those who sin, aren't you sinning even more? Okay, when it comes to sex, it seems that almost anything but sex in the missionary position for procreation is a sin. I do not know many adults that haven't sinned in that aspect, so if you've sinned in the sexual aspect, how can you judge other people who are sinning, too? It's not just sex either. How come no one is trying to outlaw lying? Is lying less of a sin than sex? Does it depend on the circumstance? I really am just confused on what makes one sin worse than another.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #2 February 25, 2004 Join the crowd. I went to Catholic school for 12 years and I still don't have it figured out. Thank god my parents work at the church, cause that's the only way I'm getting pass Saint Peter.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #3 February 25, 2004 Very simple, any thoughts that I have about you are sinnin'. Nuttin' but evil. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pleifer 0 #4 February 25, 2004 "when choseing the lesser of two evils..... I choose the one I have not done before" Mae West personaly it goes for your own morals I think.... I would say lieing is more than sex... but I don't consiter sex a sin>>> but would I lie to protect someones feelings when It will not hurt anybody? yes... _________________________________________ The Angel of Duh has spoke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #5 February 25, 2004 Depends weather you believe in "Sin" or not. I think it's a bogus concept myself. [tommy boy voice] sinner. [/tommy boy voice]---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites The111 1 #6 February 25, 2004 For the record, my religious beliefs are very unique, but if I had to categorize myself it would be Agnostic. I don't really use the word "sin", but I do believe there is a set of moral rules inherent to human nature. I.e., there is such thing as right and wrong. QuoteOkay, when it comes to sex, it seems that almost anything but sex in the missionary position for procreation is a sin. Where are you getting this from? Says who? QuoteHow come no one is trying to outlaw lying? Not everything that is morally wrong is outlawed. That's part of the basis of a free society (I'm aware ours isn't). We're free to make our own choices/mistakes as long as we're not causing significant harm to others, against their will. Why are you mentioning law? QuoteI really am just confused on what makes one sin worse than another. Again, where are you getting this from? Who said this *is* the case? Is there a document somewhere which rates "sins"? From a Christian perspective, which I understand thoroughly but don't necessarily agree with, sin is sin. One is not necessarily worse than the other. From my perspective, I would be much angrier if someone shot me in the chest than if they just stole my wallet. But who's to say the amount of anger an immoral act causes me is a reliable tool to rate its "sinfulness"?www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #7 February 25, 2004 Quotepersonaly it goes for your own morals I think.... Yeah, I have my own morals, and I know how things fall in the "which is worse" category. However, when people use the Bible to back up what they're saying, how do they use it? Where in the Bible is it saying that, "This is something that really needs to be abolished from Earth!"? Where is the Bible saying, "This sin isn't so bad!"? People try to use the Bible and their religion to back up what's "right" and what's "wrong." I just don't see where in the Bible it says that something is slightly wrong and something is really really really wrong.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #8 February 25, 2004 QuoteNot everything that is morally wrong is outlawed. QuoteWhy are you mentioning law? Sorry, I wasn't very clear! People try to use the Bible to get many laws passed. People are opposed to birth control because of the Bible. People are opposed to gay marriage because of it. However, many of these same people have had sex with a woman on top. So, how are they deciding which sin is worse?There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AndyMan 7 #9 February 25, 2004 I have absolutely no idea what the bible says about this, nor do I really care. If you were to tweak your question to be "what acts are more harmful then others", I would answer your question by pointing out Maslow's hierarchy of needs, among other ideas of psychology, and say that some acts hurt people more then others. I'm pretty sure Maslov's not in the bible, though. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chuteless 1 #10 February 25, 2004 The Bible says that if you have broken one of God's commandments, then you have in effect broken them all. Sin is Sin, and God doesnt have a grading system with one being more sinful than another. All sins are wrong In God's sight, and only Christ can forgive them No other person , onject, or thing can forgive your sins, ONLY Christ. If it were the other way, Christ would have died in Vain. If there was some other way in which to get to heaven ( i.e. good works) then Christ would have ied in vain. He said "NO MAN (or woman) comes to the Father (God) But by me". He alone is the door to Heaven, and you must go through him, by accepting his love and forgiveness, in order to enter God's kingdom. Bill Cole Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites The111 1 #11 February 25, 2004 Why use a book written by someone else to explain why anything is wrong? Why not use a logical explanation? Stealing my wallet is wrong because it deprives me of money that I earned and you didn't. Shooting me in the chest is wrong because it will either kill me or damage me phyiscally for the rest of my life. To me, my life/health is more important than $100. You keep using very vague statements about people using the Bible to rate sins. What is the real issue here? Why does it matter to you if it really is in the Bible or not?www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jlmiracle 7 #12 February 25, 2004 I'm just as confused about it also. I'm also trying to figure out if God and Jesus are the same "thing". I guy at work bot me a book but it still doesn't prove one way or another. JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites The111 1 #13 February 25, 2004 QuoteSorry, I wasn't very clear! People try to use the Bible to get many laws passed. People are opposed to birth control because of the Bible. People are opposed to gay marriage because of it. However, many of these same people have had sex with a woman on top. So, how are they deciding which sin is worse? I am opposed to gay marriage, and it has nothing to do with the Bible. I've made it clear I don't think following the Bible with no rational thought involved gets anyone anywhere, but again, where *in* the Bible does it say that "sex with a woman on top" is wrong?www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #14 February 25, 2004 QuoteHow do you know which sins are more sinful? Thunder and Lightning. Seriously, I too, get a giggle from observing those that think they got it all figured out and pass their own judgements. Man, by God's definition, is imperfect. The basic texts of all the "Christian" religions notes pretty clearly that the one, only and ultimate judge is God himself (or Jesus). So, people that wish to guide themselves by a specific doctrine are fine with me. Try to shove it in my face uninvited though and I start to laugh at them... If they're serious, they'll forgive me, but most of the time they get a resentment... So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chuteless 1 #15 February 25, 2004 Yes Jesus and God are the same. Jesus said "I and my Father are ONE", but it is a triune God, an includes the Holy Spirit. It is that same Holy Spirit that inspired the 41 writers over a 1500 yr peiod to write God's WORD. The Bible even declares that the scriptures are of no private interpretation, but were directed by God through the Holy Spirit. To answer your question...YES, they are ONE. Bill Cole Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #16 February 25, 2004 QuoteI have absolutely no idea what the bible says about this, nor do I really care. You are missing my point then. I don't use the Bible to decide what's right or wrong for me. However, when I'm trying to understand why other people want things in a certain way, I want to understand where they're coming from. I do not understand how sins are ranked in the Bible. I do not understand how people consider sex with a woman on top as less of a sin than two women having sex since both are supposed to be sins. Shouldn't people be protesting oral sex just as much as they're protesting gay marriage? Shouldn't they be putting 4 year olds in jail for lying about that stolen cookie??? QuoteThe Bible says that if you have broken one of God's commandments, then you have in effect broken them all. So, it's safe to say that most people broke them when they were very very young. I do not know of anyone who hasn't lied to their parents at least once. QuoteSin is Sin, and God doesnt have a grading system with one being more sinful than another Why aren't people getting on the government's tail about getting polygraphs attached to everyone then? QuoteWhy use a book written by someone else to explain why anything is wrong? Why not use a logical explanation? Once again, I agree. I tend to go by right/wrong in how much it infringes on someone else's rights.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #17 February 25, 2004 Quote I am opposed to gay marriage, and it has nothing to do with the Bible. That's fine. I'm talking about more than just gay marriage. I'm affected by people who use the Bible to support their stance. People still try to get birth control outlawed, and they use the Bible to back up why. I can't buy beer on Sundays, and many people in the Bible belt try to keep it that way when business try to propose changing that law.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chuteless 1 #18 February 25, 2004 The laws of Ameruica were written based on the Christian-Judeo religions, and they come from the Bible and the Torah. Whether you like it or not, you know right and wrong based on your contry's laws that state it so, By the same token, there are some people who think they can decide its okay to kill another person. He isnt abiding by the laws of the country which were based on the Bible/Torah, he wants to make his own laws. Some people think its quite alright to steal another persons belongings. He too wants to make his own laws, and resents being charged by police for violating the laws of the country. Bill Cole Bill Cole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites headoverheels 334 #19 February 25, 2004 'cause they're more fun... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #20 February 25, 2004 QuoteThe laws of Ameruica were written based on the Christian-Judeo religions, and they come from the Bible and the Torah. Okay, well then when they made these laws, how did they decide that having oral sex was worse than lying to some woman about her husband cheating on her? Since having oral sex is illegal and lying is not, I'm assuming that oral sex is worse of a sin. Also, if they used the Bible to make laws, why do we have government if God is supposed to be the one true judge? Shouldn't we live in anarchy and have no one judge anyone else?There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites misskriss 0 #21 February 25, 2004 QuoteI can't buy beer on Sundays, and many people in the Bible belt try to keep it that way when business try to propose changing that law. I found this out when trying to buy wine on a Sunday in Georgia once. When they explained it to me I was somewhat blown away. What about religious freedom in this country? There are more people here than just Christians.. isn't there supposed to be separation of church and state?? Did not make sense to me whatsoever. I said to the guy.. well what if I'm a Buddhist? ( i have no ideas if Buddhists even drink, I just threw it out there..) And he said.. "ma'am.. the laws of Georgia only care about the Christian folk. " Not kidding. On the topic of which sin is greater.. Like Chuteless said, the Bible says that no one sin is greater. There are many people who will use the Bible to judge others yet these same people will do other things that are also deemed sinful. They will judge you and stone you for doing something if they disagree with it but they can do other things which they think aren't as bad... Like there are some posters who have been divorced, had premarital sex, post porn, lust in the boobie threads yet will tell you you're going to hell for having an abortion. According to the Bible none of these would be the greater sin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites The111 1 #22 February 25, 2004 QuoteI do not understand how people consider sex with a woman on top as less of a sin than two women having sex since both are supposed to be sins. Again, who said this? QuoteShouldn't people be protesting oral sex just as much as they're protesting gay marriage? Shouldn't they be putting 4 year olds in jail for lying about that stolen cookie??? Are the lesbians being put in jail? You made a huge jump here. If all "sins" were "equal", then either the lesbians and 4 year old should both go to jail or not. In our legal system however, crimes are certainly ranked and certain ones carry heavier punishments. I think this is logical. Back to the guy who stole my wallet or shot me in the chest. I would expect him to receive a much stronger punishment for the shooting, and with our legal system, he would.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chuteless 1 #23 February 25, 2004 It is those same laws and their enforcement that prevent anarchy. If that were allowed and all laws eradicated, who would protect you and your family from those who decided they wanted to harm you/them? God gave us His commandments, and from them the laws of the country are based. Picture yourself in a country full of wild non caring people who would harm you and your loved ones....would you want that? I dont think so. BILL COLE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #24 February 25, 2004 QuoteAccording to the Bible none of these would be the greater sin. Then why do people fight tooth and nail and call others names if they're just as bad? Really, which is worse: having premarital sex and using birth control or having premarital sex without using birth control and raising a baby in poverty? Which is worse: a gay man and a gay woman forced into a hetero union because that's they only way they can have kids, raising kids in misery, or a happy union between same sex couples and raising kids in a positive environment? Which is worse: someone lying to their spouse about everything so that the marriage doesn't end or honesty in the marriage and a divorce? 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pleifer 0 #4 February 25, 2004 "when choseing the lesser of two evils..... I choose the one I have not done before" Mae West personaly it goes for your own morals I think.... I would say lieing is more than sex... but I don't consiter sex a sin>>> but would I lie to protect someones feelings when It will not hurt anybody? yes... _________________________________________ The Angel of Duh has spoke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #5 February 25, 2004 Depends weather you believe in "Sin" or not. I think it's a bogus concept myself. [tommy boy voice] sinner. [/tommy boy voice]---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #6 February 25, 2004 For the record, my religious beliefs are very unique, but if I had to categorize myself it would be Agnostic. I don't really use the word "sin", but I do believe there is a set of moral rules inherent to human nature. I.e., there is such thing as right and wrong. QuoteOkay, when it comes to sex, it seems that almost anything but sex in the missionary position for procreation is a sin. Where are you getting this from? Says who? QuoteHow come no one is trying to outlaw lying? Not everything that is morally wrong is outlawed. That's part of the basis of a free society (I'm aware ours isn't). We're free to make our own choices/mistakes as long as we're not causing significant harm to others, against their will. Why are you mentioning law? QuoteI really am just confused on what makes one sin worse than another. Again, where are you getting this from? Who said this *is* the case? Is there a document somewhere which rates "sins"? From a Christian perspective, which I understand thoroughly but don't necessarily agree with, sin is sin. One is not necessarily worse than the other. From my perspective, I would be much angrier if someone shot me in the chest than if they just stole my wallet. But who's to say the amount of anger an immoral act causes me is a reliable tool to rate its "sinfulness"?www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #7 February 25, 2004 Quotepersonaly it goes for your own morals I think.... Yeah, I have my own morals, and I know how things fall in the "which is worse" category. However, when people use the Bible to back up what they're saying, how do they use it? Where in the Bible is it saying that, "This is something that really needs to be abolished from Earth!"? Where is the Bible saying, "This sin isn't so bad!"? People try to use the Bible and their religion to back up what's "right" and what's "wrong." I just don't see where in the Bible it says that something is slightly wrong and something is really really really wrong.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #8 February 25, 2004 QuoteNot everything that is morally wrong is outlawed. QuoteWhy are you mentioning law? Sorry, I wasn't very clear! People try to use the Bible to get many laws passed. People are opposed to birth control because of the Bible. People are opposed to gay marriage because of it. However, many of these same people have had sex with a woman on top. So, how are they deciding which sin is worse?There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #9 February 25, 2004 I have absolutely no idea what the bible says about this, nor do I really care. If you were to tweak your question to be "what acts are more harmful then others", I would answer your question by pointing out Maslow's hierarchy of needs, among other ideas of psychology, and say that some acts hurt people more then others. I'm pretty sure Maslov's not in the bible, though. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #10 February 25, 2004 The Bible says that if you have broken one of God's commandments, then you have in effect broken them all. Sin is Sin, and God doesnt have a grading system with one being more sinful than another. All sins are wrong In God's sight, and only Christ can forgive them No other person , onject, or thing can forgive your sins, ONLY Christ. If it were the other way, Christ would have died in Vain. If there was some other way in which to get to heaven ( i.e. good works) then Christ would have ied in vain. He said "NO MAN (or woman) comes to the Father (God) But by me". He alone is the door to Heaven, and you must go through him, by accepting his love and forgiveness, in order to enter God's kingdom. Bill Cole Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #11 February 25, 2004 Why use a book written by someone else to explain why anything is wrong? Why not use a logical explanation? Stealing my wallet is wrong because it deprives me of money that I earned and you didn't. Shooting me in the chest is wrong because it will either kill me or damage me phyiscally for the rest of my life. To me, my life/health is more important than $100. You keep using very vague statements about people using the Bible to rate sins. What is the real issue here? Why does it matter to you if it really is in the Bible or not?www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #12 February 25, 2004 I'm just as confused about it also. I'm also trying to figure out if God and Jesus are the same "thing". I guy at work bot me a book but it still doesn't prove one way or another. JudyBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #13 February 25, 2004 QuoteSorry, I wasn't very clear! People try to use the Bible to get many laws passed. People are opposed to birth control because of the Bible. People are opposed to gay marriage because of it. However, many of these same people have had sex with a woman on top. So, how are they deciding which sin is worse? I am opposed to gay marriage, and it has nothing to do with the Bible. I've made it clear I don't think following the Bible with no rational thought involved gets anyone anywhere, but again, where *in* the Bible does it say that "sex with a woman on top" is wrong?www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #14 February 25, 2004 QuoteHow do you know which sins are more sinful? Thunder and Lightning. Seriously, I too, get a giggle from observing those that think they got it all figured out and pass their own judgements. Man, by God's definition, is imperfect. The basic texts of all the "Christian" religions notes pretty clearly that the one, only and ultimate judge is God himself (or Jesus). So, people that wish to guide themselves by a specific doctrine are fine with me. Try to shove it in my face uninvited though and I start to laugh at them... If they're serious, they'll forgive me, but most of the time they get a resentment... So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #15 February 25, 2004 Yes Jesus and God are the same. Jesus said "I and my Father are ONE", but it is a triune God, an includes the Holy Spirit. It is that same Holy Spirit that inspired the 41 writers over a 1500 yr peiod to write God's WORD. The Bible even declares that the scriptures are of no private interpretation, but were directed by God through the Holy Spirit. To answer your question...YES, they are ONE. Bill Cole Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #16 February 25, 2004 QuoteI have absolutely no idea what the bible says about this, nor do I really care. You are missing my point then. I don't use the Bible to decide what's right or wrong for me. However, when I'm trying to understand why other people want things in a certain way, I want to understand where they're coming from. I do not understand how sins are ranked in the Bible. I do not understand how people consider sex with a woman on top as less of a sin than two women having sex since both are supposed to be sins. Shouldn't people be protesting oral sex just as much as they're protesting gay marriage? Shouldn't they be putting 4 year olds in jail for lying about that stolen cookie??? QuoteThe Bible says that if you have broken one of God's commandments, then you have in effect broken them all. So, it's safe to say that most people broke them when they were very very young. I do not know of anyone who hasn't lied to their parents at least once. QuoteSin is Sin, and God doesnt have a grading system with one being more sinful than another Why aren't people getting on the government's tail about getting polygraphs attached to everyone then? QuoteWhy use a book written by someone else to explain why anything is wrong? Why not use a logical explanation? Once again, I agree. I tend to go by right/wrong in how much it infringes on someone else's rights.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #17 February 25, 2004 Quote I am opposed to gay marriage, and it has nothing to do with the Bible. That's fine. I'm talking about more than just gay marriage. I'm affected by people who use the Bible to support their stance. People still try to get birth control outlawed, and they use the Bible to back up why. I can't buy beer on Sundays, and many people in the Bible belt try to keep it that way when business try to propose changing that law.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #18 February 25, 2004 The laws of Ameruica were written based on the Christian-Judeo religions, and they come from the Bible and the Torah. Whether you like it or not, you know right and wrong based on your contry's laws that state it so, By the same token, there are some people who think they can decide its okay to kill another person. He isnt abiding by the laws of the country which were based on the Bible/Torah, he wants to make his own laws. Some people think its quite alright to steal another persons belongings. He too wants to make his own laws, and resents being charged by police for violating the laws of the country. Bill Cole Bill Cole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #19 February 25, 2004 'cause they're more fun... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #20 February 25, 2004 QuoteThe laws of Ameruica were written based on the Christian-Judeo religions, and they come from the Bible and the Torah. Okay, well then when they made these laws, how did they decide that having oral sex was worse than lying to some woman about her husband cheating on her? Since having oral sex is illegal and lying is not, I'm assuming that oral sex is worse of a sin. Also, if they used the Bible to make laws, why do we have government if God is supposed to be the one true judge? Shouldn't we live in anarchy and have no one judge anyone else?There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #21 February 25, 2004 QuoteI can't buy beer on Sundays, and many people in the Bible belt try to keep it that way when business try to propose changing that law. I found this out when trying to buy wine on a Sunday in Georgia once. When they explained it to me I was somewhat blown away. What about religious freedom in this country? There are more people here than just Christians.. isn't there supposed to be separation of church and state?? Did not make sense to me whatsoever. I said to the guy.. well what if I'm a Buddhist? ( i have no ideas if Buddhists even drink, I just threw it out there..) And he said.. "ma'am.. the laws of Georgia only care about the Christian folk. " Not kidding. On the topic of which sin is greater.. Like Chuteless said, the Bible says that no one sin is greater. There are many people who will use the Bible to judge others yet these same people will do other things that are also deemed sinful. They will judge you and stone you for doing something if they disagree with it but they can do other things which they think aren't as bad... Like there are some posters who have been divorced, had premarital sex, post porn, lust in the boobie threads yet will tell you you're going to hell for having an abortion. According to the Bible none of these would be the greater sin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #22 February 25, 2004 QuoteI do not understand how people consider sex with a woman on top as less of a sin than two women having sex since both are supposed to be sins. Again, who said this? QuoteShouldn't people be protesting oral sex just as much as they're protesting gay marriage? Shouldn't they be putting 4 year olds in jail for lying about that stolen cookie??? Are the lesbians being put in jail? You made a huge jump here. If all "sins" were "equal", then either the lesbians and 4 year old should both go to jail or not. In our legal system however, crimes are certainly ranked and certain ones carry heavier punishments. I think this is logical. Back to the guy who stole my wallet or shot me in the chest. I would expect him to receive a much stronger punishment for the shooting, and with our legal system, he would.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #23 February 25, 2004 It is those same laws and their enforcement that prevent anarchy. If that were allowed and all laws eradicated, who would protect you and your family from those who decided they wanted to harm you/them? God gave us His commandments, and from them the laws of the country are based. Picture yourself in a country full of wild non caring people who would harm you and your loved ones....would you want that? I dont think so. BILL COLE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #24 February 25, 2004 QuoteAccording to the Bible none of these would be the greater sin. Then why do people fight tooth and nail and call others names if they're just as bad? Really, which is worse: having premarital sex and using birth control or having premarital sex without using birth control and raising a baby in poverty? Which is worse: a gay man and a gay woman forced into a hetero union because that's they only way they can have kids, raising kids in misery, or a happy union between same sex couples and raising kids in a positive environment? Which is worse: someone lying to their spouse about everything so that the marriage doesn't end or honesty in the marriage and a divorce? (oh, this reply wasn't at you, MissKriss, but I think you know that!)There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #25 February 25, 2004 The more fun it is the more sinful it is. Common knowledge.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
