tunaplanet 0 #1 March 1, 2004 Damn, they cleaned house. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 March 1, 2004 Totally blew in some categories. Best song? Is y'all kidding me? I defy anyone to hum it right now and how important was it to the story? On the other hand "Kiss at the End of the Rainbow" was almost the entire point of the film "A Mighty Wind". I'll admit it, I cried when the two charachaters played it at the end of the movie and they kissed. It was the song that made the movie. Anyway, people ususally don't see things the way I do . . .quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #3 March 1, 2004 QuoteAnyway, people ususally don't see things the way I do . . . This may be the quote of the year Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 March 1, 2004 Hey, at least I admit it. I don't live in some fantasy world where I think that everyone does or should think like I do. I could name names . . . quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #5 March 1, 2004 QuoteDamn, they cleaned house. Yes, but there was some ferocious competition this year. "Master & Commander" was phenomenal, as was "Sea Biscuit". I really thought it was going to go everywhere this year, but it looks like AMPAS was either feeling guilty about ignoring Peter Jackson's monumental achievement over the past three years (really, that fat little bastard has raised the bar for directing! He'll now be the standard by which the Best Director AMPAS award is calibrated! ), and man, did they clean up! It was deserved, though, it really was. Hats off to Peter Jackson & the cast & crew of LOTR! WELL DONE!!!! mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kramer 0 #6 March 1, 2004 Quade, I'm with you on this one. A lot of those categories that LOTR won, was simply because they were predestined to win Best Picture as well. That's what I hate about the Oscars, about 80% of the categories are given out by how good the movie was, not how good the specific item that is described in the category. Grr... PS: If anyone knows or has access to Scarlet Johansson, I love her, am obsessed with her, and would like her phone number. I know you So Cal people probably chill with her and shit, don't let me down. The FAKE KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #7 March 1, 2004 QuoteQuade, I'm with you on this one. A lot of those categories that LOTR won, was simply because they were predestined to win Best Picture as well. That's what I hate about the Oscars, about 80% of the categories are given out by how good the movie was, not how good the specific item that is described in the category. Grr... PS: If anyone knows or has access to Scarlet Johansson, I love her, am obsessed with her, and would like her phone number. I know you So Cal people probably chill with her and shit, don't let me down. *SIGH* BS! A lot of times, "technical" Oscars have been handed out to pictures that were in the running for Best Picture, but were cursed by being in the SF&F genre. Quade - some support here, please.... mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BikerBabe 0 #8 March 1, 2004 A little FYI about "Into the West." It's not really about hobbits. http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2795220a2202,00.html QuoteLord of the Rings co-producer and screenwriter Fran Walsh shared the Globe for best original song in a motion picture along with composer Howard Shore and singer Annie Lennox yesterday. Walsh dedicated it to Cameron Duncan, who was 17 when he died. His mother, Sharon Duncan, of Auckland, said she was "buzzing" when she heard the tribute. Walsh and partner Peter Jackson had followed Cameron's progress as a film-maker since he was 13 and had struck up a relationship when they heard he had bone cancer. The movie Cameron made about his year-long battle with the disease deeply affected both of them. "Fran was absolutely shattered by the movie. It just ripped her in pieces. From there apparently it inspired her to write those lyrics (to winning song Into the West)." Mrs Duncan said she had already e-mailed Walsh to congratulate and thank her. "I'm so glad that she was able to do that. Some things you keep personal but that one was just so huge and Cameron would so have appreciated that." Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 March 1, 2004 Oh, to be sure. Best costume, best make up or other categories have knocked SF&F films for years. Probably the biggest exception has been stuff by either Lucas or Spielberg, but for the most part unless you're a "serious" movie, you just don't rake in the awards. I think the one guy in Hollywood that has really been screwed by the Oscars has been Danny Elfman. I was listening to NPR today (ok guys, no jokes, ya gotta know I listen to NPR by now) and they were bashing him as only being able to write for "Tim Burton quirky costume movies". Arrrgh!quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #10 March 1, 2004 Be that as it may . . . it still doesn't make the movie and is pretty forgetable.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misslmperfect 0 #11 March 1, 2004 ill agree with that! spielburg even said, before listing the nominees, that best film was a combination of ALL elements. i noticed this year that not ONE single actor/actress from LOTR was nominated for anything having to do with their accomplishments ON screen. im not sure if they have in the past. call me crazy, but i think thats one hell of a factor when considering 'all' the elements. not saying their acting was poor, but others' in other films was much better. as far as the technical stuff goes - camera, special effects, costume, blah blah etc...they definately earned it. but no way best film. just my opinion though. on another subject, anyone else notice how HOT angelina jolie looked in that dress?!Oh Canada, merci pour la livraison! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kramer 0 #12 March 1, 2004 QuoteI think the one guy in Hollywood that has really been screwed by the Oscars has been Danny Elfman. Ever listen to the Edward Scissorhands soundtrack? That's incredible music. I love this guy's work. The FAKE KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #13 March 1, 2004 Quoteill agree with that! spielburg even said, before listing the nominees, that best film was a combination of ALL elements. i noticed this year that not ONE single actor/actress from LOTR was nominated for anything having to do with their accomplishments ON screen. im not sure if they have in the past. call me crazy, but i think thats one hell of a factor when considering 'all' the elements. not saying their acting was poor, but others' in other films was much better. as far as the technical stuff goes - camera, special effects, costume, blah blah etc...they definately earned it. but no way best film. just my opinion though. I think it was a tough, tough year for AMPAS. There were some outstanding productions, and some unforgettable pieces of acting. I think they sawed the baby in half (or quarters, really) so that the awards went where they should this time. The only losers I see this year are the cast & crew of "Sea Biscuit". That was a very good film, but was ignored. mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #14 March 1, 2004 LOL. This is funny. It reminds me of this past Super Bowl. I got back from a day of skydiving, spoke with my brother on the phone, and he asked me how I liked the Patriots kicking ass and I said, "The Super Bowl was today?" Same deal. "The Academy Awards were today?" That's what I thought when I saw this thread! -Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #15 March 1, 2004 QuoteLOL. This is funny. It reminds me of this past Super Bowl. I got back from a day of skydiving, spoke with my brother on the phone, and he asked me how I liked the Patriots kicking ass and I said, "The Super Bowl was today?" Same deal. "The Academy Awards were today?" That's what I thought when I saw this thread! A little slack is requested - some of us are involved in show biz from an employment standpoint... mh ps - movie quote - "Laugh-a while you can, monkey boy!" mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #16 March 1, 2004 QuoteA little slack is requested - some of us are involved in show biz from an employment standpoint... Okay, a little slack granted. I just thought it was funny how I got this deja vu. See, I care about neither event specified, but I don't think that either one had ever before so thoroughly sneaked up on me before the actual time it happened. I think of all these awards shows as pretty much a big farce. At this point it's a big heap of self-congratulatory bullshit, and really it's more for marketing than it is for recognition of excellence. The awards-ceremony niche is a huge money-maker in and of itself, n'est pas? It barely attempts to disguise that anymore...-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #17 March 1, 2004 QuoteI think the one guy in Hollywood that has really been screwed by the Oscars has been Danny Elfman. I was listening to NPR today (ok guys, no jokes, ya gotta know I listen to NPR by now) and they were bashing him as only being able to write for "Tim Burton quirky costume movies". Arrrgh! Oh, absolutely. Everything from the Simpsons, to Men In Black, to Good Will Hunting, to Psycho, not to mention half the shows on TV. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #18 March 1, 2004 Quote At this point it's a big heap of self-congratulatory bullshit, and really it's more for marketing than it is for recognition of excellence. Um, that's all it ever really was from the very beginning -- marketing. Way back when they didn't hide the fact it was a marketing ploy. Now they're a little more subtle with a pretext of artistic merit and to some extent it is, but for the most part the reason anyone in Hollywood gives a poop about Oscar night is that it means money and jobs. Yes, jobs are on the line. The guy that nobody knew this morning but won for Best Animated Short tonight will be getting a LOT of phone calls tomorrow to direct a real feature length movie.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #19 March 1, 2004 QuoteOh, absolutely. Everything from the Simpsons, to Men In Black, to Good Will Hunting, to Psycho, not to mention half the shows on TV Add to the list, Mission Impossible and Spiderman, as well. Out of interest I googled Danny's name and found he has quite a following. Here is a more complete list of his works. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #20 March 1, 2004 What Quade said. Peter Jackson was a total unknown before LOTR. Now he can pretty much write his own ticket. The production company literally bet the house (and $300 MILLION in production costs) on the series. I saw recently the worldwide gross so far is 2.8 BILLION. And I heard a sound bite from the awards show (which I didn't watch, BTW) - it was a remark by one of the winners of Best Foreign Film: "We're glad LOTR wasn't in this category." mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #21 March 1, 2004 QuotePeter Jackson was a total unknown before LOTR. Now he can pretty much write his own ticket To be fair, Oscar or no Oscar, that pretty much was settled with the 3 billion of revenue! lolRemster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #22 March 1, 2004 There's an element of Hollyweird that continually fascinates, and it goes all the way back past ancient Greece, to the legends told around the campfires of cavemen. It's the human desire to be entertained with make-believe. Stripped of its tinsel, show business is, at its most fundamental level, an expression of this simple concept. Those who develop epic entertainment are screwed if, in the midst of all the deal-making, special-effects razzle-dazzle, marketing, etc. they forget Drama 101. Jackson & company didn't forget Drama 101. mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #23 March 1, 2004 Quote It's the human desire to be entertained with make-believe. There is a theory in anthropolgy that speech in humans developed in order to facilitate hunting and gathering and if you look at what early man was most interested in with his cave paintings it's pretty easy to see why they think this. The theory continues that stories around the camp fire (well, actually I suppose back then they just called it "fire"), was first a teaching tool. They discovered they could teach more than just how to hunt too. There's also a theory in screenwriting that all stories are actually teaching tools. You might not learn how to build a nuclear reactor, but you ususally do learn something small about human behaviour even in the stories of the Greek Gods or about Hobbits. You connect with someone in the story, see the story from their point of view, explore something that you may not have yet had the opportunity to personally experience and learn how this character had to deal with the consequences of the decisions that he made.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #24 March 2, 2004 QuoteThere is a theory in anthropolgy that speech in humans developed in order to facilitate hunting and gathering and if you look at what early man was most interested in with his cave paintings it's pretty easy to see why they think this. The theory continues that stories around the camp fire (well, actually I suppose back then they just called it "fire"), was first a teaching tool. They discovered they could teach more than just how to hunt too. Themes covered in the move: Quest for Fire. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
