billvon 3,112 #26 March 2, 2004 > If a child is left alone in that situation where he or she has enough > time to play with the gun, Correctly install the clip into the gun, >correctly charge a round into the pipe, then maybe we should look at > parenting skills instead of gun locks perhaps? Agreed, but if you think that kids can't figure out how to do that, you've never seen one with a set of Legos. You either put it someplace they absolutely cannot get to it (like a safe or a locked cabinet) cannot use it (i.e. a lock) or you make absolutely, 100% sure they know not to do that. Can you trust a 17 year old to not play with the gun under the bed? Probably. An eight year old? Not sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #27 March 2, 2004 QuoteQuote How someone stores their guns in their private homes is their personal business, not the government's. I agree with you. Just curious, do you think the same if you decide you'd like to smoke a joint in your private home? Or grow the stuff in your fenced-off private back yard? Or own model rocket motors with more than 2 ounces of propellant?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #28 March 2, 2004 How you store them is your business. I'm all for no one telling you how you are and aren't allowed to do it. This amendment doesn't require locking them up, just that the locks get sold with the guns. There are other laws on the books covering firearms storage at the state level. "...but you can't ask for personal responsibility, we've already outlawed that!"witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Swoopyswoop 0 #29 March 2, 2004 I absolutely agree billvon, I guess I was just raised a little different. We wree brough up around guns, my whole family had guns. But we were also raised with a strict policy towards our parents.Under no circumstance were we ver allowed in our parents room. that was off limits. If it wasnt ours or didnt belong to us, we didnt touch it. I was never allowed in my fathers workshop without him with me. I was never allowed in the basement with the reloading equipment unless he was with me. He didnt lock any doors to keep us boys out, WE KNEW BETTER!!!! My son is 10, he has more than 15 guns to his collection, he started shootinf when he was 5, I bought him a chipmunk .22 . He was taught the same thing I was taught, I was taught by my father who my grand father taught and his dad etc etc. None of my guns are locked, none will ever be, His guns are locked in a browning 4 bolt safe due to him living with his mother who is anti-gun( I think thats why I continue to buy him more LOL). I think if people would just step up and take responsibility for there actions and use the mind that god give them, things might not have come to where they are today "when I die, I want to go like my grandfather while im sleeping, not like the passengers riding in the car with me Swoopster A.S.S. #6 Future T.S.S holder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Swoopyswoop 0 #30 March 2, 2004 as of jan 1 2004 california already requires the purchase of a Department of justice approved cable lock, Not a trigger lock, it must be a cable lock, or you sign an statement swearing to the state that you will purchase one. A bunch of hoobla is what I say. "when I die, I want to go like my grandfather while im sleeping, not like the passengers riding in the car with me Swoopster A.S.S. #6 Future T.S.S holder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #31 March 2, 2004 Quoteas of Jan 1 2004 California already requires the purchase of a Department of justice approved cable lock, Not a trigger lock, it must be a cable lock, or you sign an statement swearing to the state that you will purchase one. California is much worse than all that, but I'm sure you know better than I do. "It's 9:00, do you know where your guns are? We do, and to be sure, we're going to check whenever we want. Resist and lose them all forever. Any questions?" Well gee whiz, that sounds like reasonable compromise to me. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Swoopyswoop 0 #32 March 2, 2004 Yah it sucks, to be hinest I have signed the statements saying I will purchase them and install them but I LIED!!!!!!! lol, I dont give a damn im not going to put locks on my guns. Wheres the feds, come and get me LMAO "when I die, I want to go like my grandfather while im sleeping, not like the passengers riding in the car with me Swoopster A.S.S. #6 Future T.S.S holder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #33 March 2, 2004 I wouldn't go sharing that with everyone here. This is a public forum HH provides. I also wouldn't go shouting from the rooftops that you signed it but don't give a damn about it. It sets people off.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #34 March 2, 2004 QuoteFunny thing is, I recently had to temporarily give my glock to the police for safe keeping. I didn't want to get shot during the transaction, so, I removed the mag, put the cable lock in it, left the slide locked back, and put it in the box. The cop took the gun out, took the cable lock off, put the cable lock back in the box, handed me the box, asked me for an empty mag, put it in the gun, released the slide, and laid the gun on the passenger seat of his car. There definitely seems to be more to this story! Why on earth were you having to turn your Glock over to the police? Why does it seem like you had to do so in the field, rather than taking it to a precinct? Do you like the idea of only the police having the right to own guns (as so many anti-gun liberals are fond of arguing), given your first hand experience with just how cautious they can be with them?-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #35 March 2, 2004 Quote I dont give a damn what passed I aint locking up NOTHING. They want to compromise My safety and well being by installing a D.O.J. approved lock on my handguns? BULLCRAP people. Im not gonna say what I really want to in order to prevent a full scale riot in here LOL. But I will not lock my firearms period. I keep a D.E .50 in my bedroom, it is not loaded. I keep a clip fully stacked with it. If a child is left alone in that situation where he or she has enough time to play with the gun, Correctly install the clip into the gun, correctly charge a round into the pipe, then maybe we should look at parenting skills instead of gun locks perhaps? I dunno just rambling, what you think kennedy? Granted, I'm not Kennedy, and you didn't say, "What do you think, Jeffrey," but I would say I'd like to see you start calling it a "magazine" and stop calling it a "clip." Thanks in advance. (Desert Eagle .50?! Damn but you must make the big bucks!)-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #36 March 2, 2004 QuoteDo you like the idea of only the police having the right to own guns (as so many anti-gun liberals are fond of arguing), given your first hand experience with just how cautious they can be with them? Considering I'm a pro gun liberal...no. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #37 March 2, 2004 there was quite a thread on this one, titled somethign like "speaking of 2nd amendment rights...I just lost mine" Kev, whatever happened with that? Everything go Kosher for you? You get your piece back?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #38 March 2, 2004 anyone know what's going on now? the vote should happen today. Any news would help. Google is useless for up to the minute sutff.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #39 March 2, 2004 Quoteanyone know what's going on now? the vote should happen today. Any news would help. The liability bill has been loaded up with poison pills. I watched the Senate vote on C-Span, 52 to 48, to add the amendment extending the so-called "assault weapon" ban for another 10 years. And now I'm hearing on the radio that the gun show background check amendment has also been added. So the good bill has been loaded up with so many bad anti-gun amendments, that I am now for killing the whole thing. I hope Bush doesn't sign it. We'll come back next year and try for liability protection again. As part of the C-span coverage, a democratic Congressman actually stood up and called this "assault weapon" amendment a matter of "machine guns". An outright lie. He's either ignorant as to what he is voting on, or worse, he's intentionally lying to try and sway votes of his colleges. It's disgusting - the truth doesn't seem to matter anymore... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Swoopyswoop 0 #40 March 3, 2004 but I would say I'd like to see you start calling it a "magazine" and stop calling it a "clip." Thanks in advance. ------------------------------------------------------------ Clip mag its all the same thing, you knew what it was I was speaking of. ANd the D.E. is not that expensive, you can pick them up pretty cheap now. I looked at one the other day for giggles and there only a hair over a grand. I think I paid 1400 for mine but that was 4 years ago. "when I die, I want to go like my grandfather while im sleeping, not like the passengers riding in the car with me Swoopster A.S.S. #6 Future T.S.S holder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #41 March 3, 2004 QuoteClip mag its all the same thing, you knew what it was I was speaking of. They are not the same thing, but as long as someone knows what you are talking about it's not worth nitpicking over. QuoteANd the D.E. is not that expensive, you can pick them up pretty cheap now. I looked at one the other day for giggles and there only a hair over a grand. I don't think that most people would consider $1,000 to be "pretty cheap". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Swoopyswoop 0 #42 March 4, 2004 Yah I guess a grans does sound kinda steep. No wonder people cant understand why we blow a full paycheck on guns LMAO. We got this joyous 10 day waiting period here in california, I will post my newest addition to my family as soon as it arrives . "when I die, I want to go like my grandfather while im sleeping, not like the passengers riding in the car with me Swoopster A.S.S. #6 Future T.S.S holder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. 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Kennedy 0 #28 March 2, 2004 How you store them is your business. I'm all for no one telling you how you are and aren't allowed to do it. This amendment doesn't require locking them up, just that the locks get sold with the guns. There are other laws on the books covering firearms storage at the state level. "...but you can't ask for personal responsibility, we've already outlawed that!"witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swoopyswoop 0 #29 March 2, 2004 I absolutely agree billvon, I guess I was just raised a little different. We wree brough up around guns, my whole family had guns. But we were also raised with a strict policy towards our parents.Under no circumstance were we ver allowed in our parents room. that was off limits. If it wasnt ours or didnt belong to us, we didnt touch it. I was never allowed in my fathers workshop without him with me. I was never allowed in the basement with the reloading equipment unless he was with me. He didnt lock any doors to keep us boys out, WE KNEW BETTER!!!! My son is 10, he has more than 15 guns to his collection, he started shootinf when he was 5, I bought him a chipmunk .22 . He was taught the same thing I was taught, I was taught by my father who my grand father taught and his dad etc etc. None of my guns are locked, none will ever be, His guns are locked in a browning 4 bolt safe due to him living with his mother who is anti-gun( I think thats why I continue to buy him more LOL). I think if people would just step up and take responsibility for there actions and use the mind that god give them, things might not have come to where they are today "when I die, I want to go like my grandfather while im sleeping, not like the passengers riding in the car with me Swoopster A.S.S. #6 Future T.S.S holder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swoopyswoop 0 #30 March 2, 2004 as of jan 1 2004 california already requires the purchase of a Department of justice approved cable lock, Not a trigger lock, it must be a cable lock, or you sign an statement swearing to the state that you will purchase one. A bunch of hoobla is what I say. "when I die, I want to go like my grandfather while im sleeping, not like the passengers riding in the car with me Swoopster A.S.S. #6 Future T.S.S holder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #31 March 2, 2004 Quoteas of Jan 1 2004 California already requires the purchase of a Department of justice approved cable lock, Not a trigger lock, it must be a cable lock, or you sign an statement swearing to the state that you will purchase one. California is much worse than all that, but I'm sure you know better than I do. "It's 9:00, do you know where your guns are? We do, and to be sure, we're going to check whenever we want. Resist and lose them all forever. Any questions?" Well gee whiz, that sounds like reasonable compromise to me. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swoopyswoop 0 #32 March 2, 2004 Yah it sucks, to be hinest I have signed the statements saying I will purchase them and install them but I LIED!!!!!!! lol, I dont give a damn im not going to put locks on my guns. Wheres the feds, come and get me LMAO "when I die, I want to go like my grandfather while im sleeping, not like the passengers riding in the car with me Swoopster A.S.S. #6 Future T.S.S holder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #33 March 2, 2004 I wouldn't go sharing that with everyone here. This is a public forum HH provides. I also wouldn't go shouting from the rooftops that you signed it but don't give a damn about it. It sets people off.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #34 March 2, 2004 QuoteFunny thing is, I recently had to temporarily give my glock to the police for safe keeping. I didn't want to get shot during the transaction, so, I removed the mag, put the cable lock in it, left the slide locked back, and put it in the box. The cop took the gun out, took the cable lock off, put the cable lock back in the box, handed me the box, asked me for an empty mag, put it in the gun, released the slide, and laid the gun on the passenger seat of his car. There definitely seems to be more to this story! Why on earth were you having to turn your Glock over to the police? Why does it seem like you had to do so in the field, rather than taking it to a precinct? Do you like the idea of only the police having the right to own guns (as so many anti-gun liberals are fond of arguing), given your first hand experience with just how cautious they can be with them?-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #35 March 2, 2004 Quote I dont give a damn what passed I aint locking up NOTHING. They want to compromise My safety and well being by installing a D.O.J. approved lock on my handguns? BULLCRAP people. Im not gonna say what I really want to in order to prevent a full scale riot in here LOL. But I will not lock my firearms period. I keep a D.E .50 in my bedroom, it is not loaded. I keep a clip fully stacked with it. If a child is left alone in that situation where he or she has enough time to play with the gun, Correctly install the clip into the gun, correctly charge a round into the pipe, then maybe we should look at parenting skills instead of gun locks perhaps? I dunno just rambling, what you think kennedy? Granted, I'm not Kennedy, and you didn't say, "What do you think, Jeffrey," but I would say I'd like to see you start calling it a "magazine" and stop calling it a "clip." Thanks in advance. (Desert Eagle .50?! Damn but you must make the big bucks!)-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #36 March 2, 2004 QuoteDo you like the idea of only the police having the right to own guns (as so many anti-gun liberals are fond of arguing), given your first hand experience with just how cautious they can be with them? Considering I'm a pro gun liberal...no. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #37 March 2, 2004 there was quite a thread on this one, titled somethign like "speaking of 2nd amendment rights...I just lost mine" Kev, whatever happened with that? Everything go Kosher for you? You get your piece back?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #38 March 2, 2004 anyone know what's going on now? the vote should happen today. Any news would help. Google is useless for up to the minute sutff.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #39 March 2, 2004 Quoteanyone know what's going on now? the vote should happen today. Any news would help. The liability bill has been loaded up with poison pills. I watched the Senate vote on C-Span, 52 to 48, to add the amendment extending the so-called "assault weapon" ban for another 10 years. And now I'm hearing on the radio that the gun show background check amendment has also been added. So the good bill has been loaded up with so many bad anti-gun amendments, that I am now for killing the whole thing. I hope Bush doesn't sign it. We'll come back next year and try for liability protection again. As part of the C-span coverage, a democratic Congressman actually stood up and called this "assault weapon" amendment a matter of "machine guns". An outright lie. He's either ignorant as to what he is voting on, or worse, he's intentionally lying to try and sway votes of his colleges. It's disgusting - the truth doesn't seem to matter anymore... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swoopyswoop 0 #40 March 3, 2004 but I would say I'd like to see you start calling it a "magazine" and stop calling it a "clip." Thanks in advance. ------------------------------------------------------------ Clip mag its all the same thing, you knew what it was I was speaking of. ANd the D.E. is not that expensive, you can pick them up pretty cheap now. I looked at one the other day for giggles and there only a hair over a grand. I think I paid 1400 for mine but that was 4 years ago. "when I die, I want to go like my grandfather while im sleeping, not like the passengers riding in the car with me Swoopster A.S.S. #6 Future T.S.S holder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #41 March 3, 2004 QuoteClip mag its all the same thing, you knew what it was I was speaking of. They are not the same thing, but as long as someone knows what you are talking about it's not worth nitpicking over. QuoteANd the D.E. is not that expensive, you can pick them up pretty cheap now. I looked at one the other day for giggles and there only a hair over a grand. I don't think that most people would consider $1,000 to be "pretty cheap". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swoopyswoop 0 #42 March 4, 2004 Yah I guess a grans does sound kinda steep. No wonder people cant understand why we blow a full paycheck on guns LMAO. We got this joyous 10 day waiting period here in california, I will post my newest addition to my family as soon as it arrives . "when I die, I want to go like my grandfather while im sleeping, not like the passengers riding in the car with me Swoopster A.S.S. #6 Future T.S.S holder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
