North95 0 #1 March 2, 2004 For those that haven't read the previous thread, I'll summarize quickly. I was having a heated discussion with a coworker, about a work issue, when he went berserk and grabbed my scrubs (this in in a hospital) with both hands. Then he hauled off and was about to clock me. I grabbed his shirt and tie with one hand and held him away from me. Then I grabbed a chair and put it between us, told him to leave (since he was on the door side of the chair). He wouldn't. Anyway, we were both suspended without pay. This was last Thursday. SInce then I have filed a police report. My sister is a Professor of Labor Law. She called my Manager and left a message stating who she was etc. I was called yesterday and told that they would only talk to me, not my lawyer, and I should follow the chain of command. (There is someone between me and the guy she called in the chain of command.) I was asked to come to a meeting with a guy in HR at 2PM today, Eastern TIme, that I never heard of. (I've hardly heard of anyone in HR since I never get in trouble) I don't know if I scared them with my lawyer (sister), and they'll just reinstate me, or if they'll just fire me or what. I also have feelers out and will have a real NY lawyer soon, if I need one. (My sister lives in LA, CA.) So, just wish me good luck. Whatever happens, I'm determined to be in Buckeye AZ, Desert Skydiving Center, on March 22, 9AM, to continue/restart AFF! NorthRepetition does not transform a lie into a truth. Franklin D. Roosevelt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #2 March 2, 2004 Good luck! This whole thing sounds intimidating and complicated, and I hope it works out for you! Kelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GARYC24 3 #3 March 2, 2004 This would be a good time to ask for a raise in pay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
North95 0 #4 March 2, 2004 Quote This would be a good time to ask for a raise in pay. Quote I knew you guys/girls would make me feel good. North Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites slug 1 #5 March 2, 2004 Hi North Hope everything went Ok. I'd have recommended you to take a tape recorder with you and place it on the table, so there's no he said she said. I prefer to deal with HR in writeing. HR (human remains) know their in deep do do for suspendeing you without pay when they had prior knowledge of the other guys track record. IMO All they had to do was tell the repeat offender to empty his locker in 30 minutes and escort him out of the building and tell to stay away or they would have him arrrested for tresspassing. Hope you get your suspended pay back. R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DShiznit 0 #6 March 2, 2004 Any update yet???? Inquiring minds want to know!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites North95 0 #7 March 3, 2004 I had physical therapy at 5PM, Eastern Time. That left a little drinking time between HR (human remains) and PT. So I haven't been at a computer for a few hours. I also had time to speak to an employment lawyer, and my sister, the Labor Law Professor. The HR guy asked a lot of questions and wrote down what happened on the day of the "altercation." He said I'd get a call in a day, or two, with the verdict. The employment lawyer was very nice, but the situation isn't good. New York is an "at will" State. Which means, except for a Union contract, which I don't have, or another contract, which I don't have, one is employed "at will." I can be laid off, or fired, for a good reason, a bad reason, or no reason. I can also quit for any reason, at any time. The only exceptions would be if I were fired based on race, creed, color, age, religion, disability, or anything like that. The Policy Manual of an employer can be regarded as a contract, sort of. Employers have caught on and now state in their Policy books that the Policies are not to be regarded as binding or as a contract. I asked the HR guy for a copy of the policy in question. He said the Hospital has a policy of NOT giving out the policy. I almost asked for a copy of that policy. So, if they fire me, I'm screwed. NorthRepetition does not transform a lie into a truth. Franklin D. Roosevelt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites North95 0 #8 March 3, 2004 Quote I'd have recommended you to take a tape recorder with you and place it on the table, so there's no he said she said. I prefer to deal with HR in writing. You know, I have one of those little Olympus Digital Voice Recorded that was in my pocket. And I thought of using it. Sometime, though, a button gets pressed when it is in my pocket and it beeps and stuff. I didn't want that to happen. He didn't say anything anyway. It was just me being interrogated for 1/2 hour. He did mention a zero-tolerance policy, which was sort of a buzz-kill. I just have to wait. I'm jumping at DSC in three weeks anyway, screw HR. NorthRepetition does not transform a lie into a truth. Franklin D. Roosevelt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #9 March 3, 2004 That may be illegal anyway. Not a good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites North95 0 #10 March 3, 2004 Quote That may be illegal anyway. Not a good idea. I believe that in New York State it is legal to record your own telephone or your own regular conversations even without the other person's knowledge. But I didn't, and he didn't say anything anyway. Although he made notes of what I said, I hope they were accurate. NorthRepetition does not transform a lie into a truth. Franklin D. Roosevelt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Michele 1 #11 March 3, 2004 QuoteThe Policy Manual of an employer can be regarded as a contract, sort of. Employers have caught on and now state in their Policy books that the Policies are not to be regarded as binding or as a contract. I asked the HR guy for a copy of the policy in question. He said the Hospital has a policy of NOT giving out the policy. I almost asked for a copy of that policy. Um, not sure about NY, but if you are expected to abide by policies, here at least you need to know what they are. The only way to know what they are is to get a copy, and read it. The only way to prove that you knew what they are and violated them anyway is to have a signed receipt for a copy of the policies... If they won't give you the policies, how the heck are you supposed to know what they are? And was there any mention made about the fact you filed a police report? That may be the clincher at this point. I don't think they can fire you for being a victim of a crime.... I'd talk to the Labor Board - not an attorney, but the Feds. Equal Housing or something like that...I know they carry a great deal of weight here in CA, and I suspect they would carry the same there. You may still get fired, but it's a way to get any $$ owed you. And they may push for you to keep your job. Sorry I'm not more help. Ciels Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites slug 1 #12 March 3, 2004 QuoteThat may be illegal anyway. Not a good idea. It's only illegal if the other party doesn't know their being recorded. If you read my suggestion It said place the recorder on the table. He say's what's that you say a recorder You say good by. R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites North95 0 #13 March 3, 2004 RIP, aren't you in the State of Washington? If secretly recording a meeting is illegal its a state law, I'm sure there's no Federal law. I don't know the laws of Washington, and I don't know how you would know New York law, unless you'd lived here, or went to jail for recording a meeting here. It doesn't matter, but I really think it is NOT illegal in New York State to go around with a live mic recording everything. Any NYS lawyers or cops around?? North Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #14 March 3, 2004 Does your sister teach at Whittier? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites North95 0 #15 March 3, 2004 Yeah. You know her?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites North95 0 #16 March 3, 2004 According to this link, link New York is a "one party" state. An intrastate telephone call can be recorded as long as ONE party to the conversation knows it is being recorded. And I'm certain the same is true of plain old fashioned conversations. After all, there are cameras all over New York, even in my elevators. Maybe there are microphones also. I think its all legal, unfortunately. North Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites slug 1 #17 March 3, 2004 I believe that in New York State it is legal to record your own telephone or your own regular conversations even without the other person's knowledge.Quote QuoteSee above you don't have to hid it But I didn't, and he didn't say anything anyway. Although he made notes of what I said, I hope they were accurate.*** QuoteTalk with your Sis first. I sugest you write a letter to the head of HR with what you remember was discused at todays meeting. Including the BS about the manual and ask them "in the spirit of cooperation" if they don't agree with your version to let you know in writing what part is incorrect. Gota have a plan sam. A paper trail is a good thing for both parties as long as everyone has the same paperBased on todays meeting any further communication needs to be done in writeing by both parties.IMO you will be labeled a "disgruntled employee" I wouldn't even talk to them on the telephone. Maybe E-mail sis a copy so she can proof read your stuff before you snail mail it to your employer.R.I.P. I'm not a lawyer. Start writeing everything that happened since the altercation and every thing you know about the guy you had trouble with. North Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cindee 0 #18 March 3, 2004 Hey North, Good luck with all of this. I still think everything will work out in your favor. After all, the other guy has a history of this type of behavior, and he is still there. How will they be able to explain that if they let you go when you have never been suspended? I'm glad you are still going to Buckeye regardless of the outcome!__________________________________________________ "If happy little bluebirds fly above the rainbow, why oh why can't I?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites slug 1 #19 March 3, 2004 Hi North QuoteRIP, aren't you in the State of Washington? If secretly recording a meeting is illegal its a state law, I'm sure there's no Federal law. I don't know the laws of Washington, and I don't know how you would know New York law, unless you'd lived here, or went to jail for recording a meeting here. It doesn't matter, but I really think it is NOT illegal in New York State to go around with a live mic recording everythingQuote Yes I do live in Wa state but based on my personel ethics I don't think it's nice to record a conversation without the other parties knowledge. If I feel like I need to record a meeting I tell them first. That's the end of the meeting.I did get a call from a sheriff deputy once who started to read me the riot act. I asked him to wait a minute so I could get a pencil. The sheriff kept on telling me I couldn't record our conversation due to state lawand I kept on asking him to repeat what he was telling me because I was writeing our conversation down on a piece of paper and couldn't write that fast. So I was able to write down what he said and then called his boss the Sgt who said he'd have a talk with the guy. Any NYS lawyers or cops around??*** QuoteI'm not a lawyer but in my opinion you have just as much rights as your employer to write down what's being said in a meeting. That way you can exchange info on what was discussed at the meeting and make sure there wasn't a "failure to communicate". CYA 101, Business 101 etc. Your employer may not like it. So what? They've already put you on LWOP. Now they had a meeting with you where you can't prove what was discussed, because you were told to come alone. Maybe you can trust them to take care of you. You know you can trust me even if I don't really exist R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites North95 0 #20 March 3, 2004 I can't believe it. I was so busy talking to you guys, and answering the phone, that I didn't notice that there was a message on my voicemail. It was MY BOSS, telling me to REPORT TO WORK tomorrow at 8AM. I guess all is forgiven!!!! Thanks to all of you for your help and support. North Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Michele 1 #21 March 3, 2004 HOT DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But CYA anyway...at this point, it wouldn't hurt, right? Well done! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites slug 1 #22 March 3, 2004 QuoteHOT DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But CYA anyway...at this point, it wouldn't hurt, right? Well done! Ciels- Michele What Michele said. And Please get your paperwork up to date (meeting). You don't need a recorder carry a pencil and paper if you got to go to a meeting. Let us know if the other guy goes back to work You owe your Sis a big one R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites North95 0 #23 March 4, 2004 Well, I'm back at work. Problem is, that little shit that went postal on me last week is also back. They just threw us back together with a "can't we all just get along" kind of sentiment. He's really seething now. I should have a knife in my back any time now. For a company with a $1 Billion/year revenue, they sure can be stupid. I wrote a memo to my supervisor a little while ago. I suppose I should give it to him tomorrow. I have to be up in a few hours, so I'd better be asleep soon. Maybe things will seem less ridiculous in the morning. 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slug 1 #5 March 2, 2004 Hi North Hope everything went Ok. I'd have recommended you to take a tape recorder with you and place it on the table, so there's no he said she said. I prefer to deal with HR in writeing. HR (human remains) know their in deep do do for suspendeing you without pay when they had prior knowledge of the other guys track record. IMO All they had to do was tell the repeat offender to empty his locker in 30 minutes and escort him out of the building and tell to stay away or they would have him arrrested for tresspassing. Hope you get your suspended pay back. R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DShiznit 0 #6 March 2, 2004 Any update yet???? Inquiring minds want to know!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
North95 0 #7 March 3, 2004 I had physical therapy at 5PM, Eastern Time. That left a little drinking time between HR (human remains) and PT. So I haven't been at a computer for a few hours. I also had time to speak to an employment lawyer, and my sister, the Labor Law Professor. The HR guy asked a lot of questions and wrote down what happened on the day of the "altercation." He said I'd get a call in a day, or two, with the verdict. The employment lawyer was very nice, but the situation isn't good. New York is an "at will" State. Which means, except for a Union contract, which I don't have, or another contract, which I don't have, one is employed "at will." I can be laid off, or fired, for a good reason, a bad reason, or no reason. I can also quit for any reason, at any time. The only exceptions would be if I were fired based on race, creed, color, age, religion, disability, or anything like that. The Policy Manual of an employer can be regarded as a contract, sort of. Employers have caught on and now state in their Policy books that the Policies are not to be regarded as binding or as a contract. I asked the HR guy for a copy of the policy in question. He said the Hospital has a policy of NOT giving out the policy. I almost asked for a copy of that policy. So, if they fire me, I'm screwed. NorthRepetition does not transform a lie into a truth. Franklin D. Roosevelt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
North95 0 #8 March 3, 2004 Quote I'd have recommended you to take a tape recorder with you and place it on the table, so there's no he said she said. I prefer to deal with HR in writing. You know, I have one of those little Olympus Digital Voice Recorded that was in my pocket. And I thought of using it. Sometime, though, a button gets pressed when it is in my pocket and it beeps and stuff. I didn't want that to happen. He didn't say anything anyway. It was just me being interrogated for 1/2 hour. He did mention a zero-tolerance policy, which was sort of a buzz-kill. I just have to wait. I'm jumping at DSC in three weeks anyway, screw HR. NorthRepetition does not transform a lie into a truth. Franklin D. Roosevelt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #9 March 3, 2004 That may be illegal anyway. Not a good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
North95 0 #10 March 3, 2004 Quote That may be illegal anyway. Not a good idea. I believe that in New York State it is legal to record your own telephone or your own regular conversations even without the other person's knowledge. But I didn't, and he didn't say anything anyway. Although he made notes of what I said, I hope they were accurate. NorthRepetition does not transform a lie into a truth. Franklin D. Roosevelt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #11 March 3, 2004 QuoteThe Policy Manual of an employer can be regarded as a contract, sort of. Employers have caught on and now state in their Policy books that the Policies are not to be regarded as binding or as a contract. I asked the HR guy for a copy of the policy in question. He said the Hospital has a policy of NOT giving out the policy. I almost asked for a copy of that policy. Um, not sure about NY, but if you are expected to abide by policies, here at least you need to know what they are. The only way to know what they are is to get a copy, and read it. The only way to prove that you knew what they are and violated them anyway is to have a signed receipt for a copy of the policies... If they won't give you the policies, how the heck are you supposed to know what they are? And was there any mention made about the fact you filed a police report? That may be the clincher at this point. I don't think they can fire you for being a victim of a crime.... I'd talk to the Labor Board - not an attorney, but the Feds. Equal Housing or something like that...I know they carry a great deal of weight here in CA, and I suspect they would carry the same there. You may still get fired, but it's a way to get any $$ owed you. And they may push for you to keep your job. Sorry I'm not more help. Ciels Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #12 March 3, 2004 QuoteThat may be illegal anyway. Not a good idea. It's only illegal if the other party doesn't know their being recorded. If you read my suggestion It said place the recorder on the table. He say's what's that you say a recorder You say good by. R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
North95 0 #13 March 3, 2004 RIP, aren't you in the State of Washington? If secretly recording a meeting is illegal its a state law, I'm sure there's no Federal law. I don't know the laws of Washington, and I don't know how you would know New York law, unless you'd lived here, or went to jail for recording a meeting here. It doesn't matter, but I really think it is NOT illegal in New York State to go around with a live mic recording everything. Any NYS lawyers or cops around?? North Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #14 March 3, 2004 Does your sister teach at Whittier? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
North95 0 #15 March 3, 2004 Yeah. You know her?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
North95 0 #16 March 3, 2004 According to this link, link New York is a "one party" state. An intrastate telephone call can be recorded as long as ONE party to the conversation knows it is being recorded. And I'm certain the same is true of plain old fashioned conversations. After all, there are cameras all over New York, even in my elevators. Maybe there are microphones also. I think its all legal, unfortunately. North Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #17 March 3, 2004 I believe that in New York State it is legal to record your own telephone or your own regular conversations even without the other person's knowledge.Quote QuoteSee above you don't have to hid it But I didn't, and he didn't say anything anyway. Although he made notes of what I said, I hope they were accurate.*** QuoteTalk with your Sis first. I sugest you write a letter to the head of HR with what you remember was discused at todays meeting. Including the BS about the manual and ask them "in the spirit of cooperation" if they don't agree with your version to let you know in writing what part is incorrect. Gota have a plan sam. A paper trail is a good thing for both parties as long as everyone has the same paperBased on todays meeting any further communication needs to be done in writeing by both parties.IMO you will be labeled a "disgruntled employee" I wouldn't even talk to them on the telephone. Maybe E-mail sis a copy so she can proof read your stuff before you snail mail it to your employer.R.I.P. I'm not a lawyer. Start writeing everything that happened since the altercation and every thing you know about the guy you had trouble with. North Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cindee 0 #18 March 3, 2004 Hey North, Good luck with all of this. I still think everything will work out in your favor. After all, the other guy has a history of this type of behavior, and he is still there. How will they be able to explain that if they let you go when you have never been suspended? I'm glad you are still going to Buckeye regardless of the outcome!__________________________________________________ "If happy little bluebirds fly above the rainbow, why oh why can't I?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #19 March 3, 2004 Hi North QuoteRIP, aren't you in the State of Washington? If secretly recording a meeting is illegal its a state law, I'm sure there's no Federal law. I don't know the laws of Washington, and I don't know how you would know New York law, unless you'd lived here, or went to jail for recording a meeting here. It doesn't matter, but I really think it is NOT illegal in New York State to go around with a live mic recording everythingQuote Yes I do live in Wa state but based on my personel ethics I don't think it's nice to record a conversation without the other parties knowledge. If I feel like I need to record a meeting I tell them first. That's the end of the meeting.I did get a call from a sheriff deputy once who started to read me the riot act. I asked him to wait a minute so I could get a pencil. The sheriff kept on telling me I couldn't record our conversation due to state lawand I kept on asking him to repeat what he was telling me because I was writeing our conversation down on a piece of paper and couldn't write that fast. So I was able to write down what he said and then called his boss the Sgt who said he'd have a talk with the guy. Any NYS lawyers or cops around??*** QuoteI'm not a lawyer but in my opinion you have just as much rights as your employer to write down what's being said in a meeting. That way you can exchange info on what was discussed at the meeting and make sure there wasn't a "failure to communicate". CYA 101, Business 101 etc. Your employer may not like it. So what? They've already put you on LWOP. Now they had a meeting with you where you can't prove what was discussed, because you were told to come alone. Maybe you can trust them to take care of you. You know you can trust me even if I don't really exist R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites North95 0 #20 March 3, 2004 I can't believe it. I was so busy talking to you guys, and answering the phone, that I didn't notice that there was a message on my voicemail. It was MY BOSS, telling me to REPORT TO WORK tomorrow at 8AM. I guess all is forgiven!!!! Thanks to all of you for your help and support. North Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Michele 1 #21 March 3, 2004 HOT DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But CYA anyway...at this point, it wouldn't hurt, right? Well done! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites slug 1 #22 March 3, 2004 QuoteHOT DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But CYA anyway...at this point, it wouldn't hurt, right? Well done! Ciels- Michele What Michele said. And Please get your paperwork up to date (meeting). You don't need a recorder carry a pencil and paper if you got to go to a meeting. Let us know if the other guy goes back to work You owe your Sis a big one R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites North95 0 #23 March 4, 2004 Well, I'm back at work. Problem is, that little shit that went postal on me last week is also back. They just threw us back together with a "can't we all just get along" kind of sentiment. He's really seething now. I should have a knife in my back any time now. For a company with a $1 Billion/year revenue, they sure can be stupid. I wrote a memo to my supervisor a little while ago. I suppose I should give it to him tomorrow. I have to be up in a few hours, so I'd better be asleep soon. Maybe things will seem less ridiculous in the morning. NorthRepetition does not transform a lie into a truth. Franklin D. Roosevelt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites slug 1 #24 March 4, 2004 Hi North I recommend emailing your Sis and if she concurs sending a letter to your boss with a CC to HR and the big cheese, (Chain of command.) Your supervisor has allowed this situation to go this far you shouldn't expect him to do anything after he gets your letter. Check with your sis for the legal buzzwords that you can use in your letter.If your feeling stressed, depressed, losing sleep over your work situation mention that to your sis. BTW never say postal at work! Keep a daily diary. Not a professional work enviroment, you could be a old man before the feds got to your case. Have you considered looking for a job at another hospital? Two weeks notice would be sweet R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
North95 0 #20 March 3, 2004 I can't believe it. I was so busy talking to you guys, and answering the phone, that I didn't notice that there was a message on my voicemail. It was MY BOSS, telling me to REPORT TO WORK tomorrow at 8AM. I guess all is forgiven!!!! Thanks to all of you for your help and support. North Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #21 March 3, 2004 HOT DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But CYA anyway...at this point, it wouldn't hurt, right? Well done! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #22 March 3, 2004 QuoteHOT DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But CYA anyway...at this point, it wouldn't hurt, right? Well done! Ciels- Michele What Michele said. And Please get your paperwork up to date (meeting). You don't need a recorder carry a pencil and paper if you got to go to a meeting. Let us know if the other guy goes back to work You owe your Sis a big one R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
North95 0 #23 March 4, 2004 Well, I'm back at work. Problem is, that little shit that went postal on me last week is also back. They just threw us back together with a "can't we all just get along" kind of sentiment. He's really seething now. I should have a knife in my back any time now. For a company with a $1 Billion/year revenue, they sure can be stupid. I wrote a memo to my supervisor a little while ago. I suppose I should give it to him tomorrow. I have to be up in a few hours, so I'd better be asleep soon. Maybe things will seem less ridiculous in the morning. NorthRepetition does not transform a lie into a truth. Franklin D. Roosevelt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #24 March 4, 2004 Hi North I recommend emailing your Sis and if she concurs sending a letter to your boss with a CC to HR and the big cheese, (Chain of command.) Your supervisor has allowed this situation to go this far you shouldn't expect him to do anything after he gets your letter. Check with your sis for the legal buzzwords that you can use in your letter.If your feeling stressed, depressed, losing sleep over your work situation mention that to your sis. BTW never say postal at work! Keep a daily diary. Not a professional work enviroment, you could be a old man before the feds got to your case. Have you considered looking for a job at another hospital? Two weeks notice would be sweet R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites