Gawain 0 #1 March 11, 2004 It's a simple headline with no story yet on Fox News. It begins.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #2 March 11, 2004 SHoot. And here I was thinking of it in business terms. Aw, well. The Cal Supremes merely stalling the inevitable. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #3 March 11, 2004 We've had it in Canada for about a year. You know what? It hasn't impacted my well being one bit. Why do people who aren't gay give a damn? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #4 March 11, 2004 Luckily Oregon is just a quick hop away. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 March 11, 2004 San Francisco is already ignoring the state law and the Governor. Why does the Supreme Court of California think they'll hold sway? Yes, it adds another voice to the subject, but simply ordering the stoppage without ruling on the legallity of them is just silly. More on the developing story HERE.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #6 March 12, 2004 I don't discount your point. However, it does show about the quality of the type of leadership in San Francisco. Mayor Brown is not so special that he can simply discount current state law. The Legislature in this state is liberal enough to make this legal. Mayor Brown is now saying that even the political process (a crummy as it is) isn't good enough. "I'll do what I want to do, when I want to do it." I could not care less about who get married to whom, but I do care about reckless disregard taking action in this form. So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 March 12, 2004 Quote I could not care less about who get married to whom, but I do care about reckless disregard taking action in this form. I think it depends on the issue trying to be dealt with. Although the Underground Railroad was illegal, I think we (as a whole) now hold the people that participated in it in very high regard.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #8 March 12, 2004 Anyone else find this one confusing: Massachusetts lawmakers gave preliminary approval to a constitutional amendment that would ban gay marriage but allow civil unions._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #9 March 12, 2004 QuoteWhy do people who aren't gay give a damn? I've been trying really hard to figure this out too... You know, I have enough crap to worry about in my life without worrying about who's marrying who - especially people who are not even a part of my life! Why do people get so upset about gay marriage??? And why is our new governor (Arnie) wasting his time trying to halt the gay marriages when he's got so many other things he should be dealing with? (and I guess I should say the same about our President too). I just don't get it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #10 March 12, 2004 QuoteSan Francisco is already ignoring the state law and the Governor. Why does the Supreme Court of California think they'll hold sway? Yes, it adds another voice to the subject, but simply ordering the stoppage without ruling on the legallity of them is just silly. More on the developing story HERE. Here's the difference. "The Collateral Bar Rule." Persons may violate a law and not face any penalty (other than legal fees, time lost, etc.) if a court finds the law unconstitutional. But, even unconstitutional orders of a court must be followed. If the court orders you to stop doing something, and you do not, it is contempt. This is true even if the court order was not merited. Ironically, if the marriages continue despite a court order, there will be some straneg bedfellows, no pun intended. It was Alabama Supreme Court Judge Roy Moore who violated a court order to remove the 10 Commandments. Perhaps the SF mayor oughtta give Judge Moore a call and ask for some pointers (again, no pun intended). That would be funny. I'd love to interview Roy Moore and get his opinion on this! My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivexxl 0 #11 March 12, 2004 QuoteI don't discount your point. However, it does show about the quality of the type of leadership in San Francisco. Mayor Brown is not so special that he can simply discount current state law. The Legislature in this state is liberal enough to make this legal. Mayor Brown is now saying that even the political process (a crummy as it is) isn't good enough. "I'll do what I want to do, when I want to do it." I could not care less about who get married to whom, but I do care about reckless disregard taking action in this form. I think Willie Brown was a crappy mayor, but I actually regret voting for Newsom's opponent. Newsom has the balls to do what is right... equal rights. The Underground Railroad is a great example! Blog Clicky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dbriggs 0 #12 March 12, 2004 About freggin time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #13 March 12, 2004 QuoteQuote I could not care less about who get married to whom, but I do care about reckless disregard taking action in this form. I think it depends on the issue trying to be dealt with. Although the Underground Railroad was illegal, I think we (as a whole) now hold the people that participated in it in very high regard. Slavery and same-sex-marriage is hardly comparable. In fact, they aren't in the same league.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
