god damn ebay

[Zeemax 0]

people who use sniping programmes should be banned....

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[osuskydiver 0]

whats that?

By the time you read this you have already read it.

[quade 4]

Um, you could always to the same yourself.

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[Zeemax 0]

but then they fight it out?

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[sdgregory 0]

color me stupid but . . .


what are sniping programs?

[quade 4]

Yeah, but your odds are a hell of a lot better -with- one than without one.

Your odds of winning an auction without one are practically nil. It would have to be an item that almost no one wants since almost every auction will invariably have -somebody- using a bot to place the winning bid at the very last second.

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[TribalTalon 0]

who the fuck wants a snakeboard anyway.

[Gawain 0]

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whats that?

What he said. Is this a quasi-auto-bid type thing?

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[sdgregory 0]

Do not expect an answer to this. I think, though, that is what it is.

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whats that?

What he said. Is this a quasi-auto-bid type thing?

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[Gravitymaster 0]

Should get interesting once the entire Ebay Community has this.

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Should get interesting once the entire Ebay Community has this.

Actually, the using of sniping applets on eBay is verboten. I figure that the only way I'm getting away with it right now is because most people aren't using them yet.

Hey - I've got dialup, and the best speed I've ever gotten is 42667 bps. Gotta even the odds somehow.

mh

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"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

[DTOXX 0]

I personally don't use an snipping program/site but perhaps I have a different view. Seems to me that I bid on an item and place the maximum I am willing to spend. If this amount is surpassed then don't win the auction. -simple right.

People who are using a snipe application are trying to get the item at the last second and as cheap as possible. They are also using a maximum bid amount so in the end it will be the person who was willing to spend the most when making their initial bid.

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[vid666 0]

that is note tru. I have lost only one thing on ebay, and I have won everything i wanted to. The catch is using 2 monitors with a few windows open, and constantly refresh one. You can do at least 4 differrent bids in the last 15 seconds.

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I recently used SnipeRight to win an item by $.01. Boy, was the loser pissed! I got a really ugly flame-mail.

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[Aviatrr 0]

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I recently used SnipeRight

Where can I find that?

Mike

[Kennedy 0]

I thought when you bid on something they extended the auction by two minutes.

So how's this work any better than paying attention?

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[TheBile 0]

Ebay should adopt a technique that Yahoo:Community has to prevent automated registration. After you place a bid your presented with a JPEG that contains a word. You then have to type that word in the space provided for the bid to be accepted. Snipe software, as it stansa, would not be able to counteract this.

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[benny 0]

Ebay does have that in their registration if I'm not mistaken. But once you register you have your SN and password, and put that in the sniping program... voila.

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[mr2mk1g 10]

I have recently started using a snipe program called Auction Sentry. It has not modified the way I use e-bay one bit. I would only ever put in a bid in the last 30 secconds of an auction before learning about snipe programs - the program simply allows me to bid while out or asleap. If I'm in I snipe manually.

Its the only way to get the item cheap. If you bid before that the ONLY thing you do is push the price up unessaserily. People who start bidding on an item 5 days before it goes out piss me off. Do they really think they are going to win it right there and then or something?

If you ever go to live auctions you will see that experianced traders do not bid until the auction is about to end and then they out bid the current bidder. If you participate in a 4 way bidding contest 3 days before the auction ends you just push the price up - its dumb.

Yes ultimatly everyone only bids the ammount which they are willing to pay for the item so the person who has the biggest pockets wins... nothing wrong with that right? True. But I consistently win things at a FRACTION of the price I am willing to pay for it. So why not snipe (maunally or otherwise)? I get things much much cheaper than the chumps out there that start bidding a week in advance. Sooner or later you find that the price you are willing to pay comes down... because you know if you wait you can find it much cheaper.

These days, the price I am willing to pay for an item depends just as much on how fast I need it as on how much the item is worth.

[Zeemax 0]

because i was the highest bidder all the way through, i kept refreshing all the way to the end. I was the highest bidder until 8 seconds befor the end, there was no way i could place a new bid.

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[mr2mk1g 10]

You could have placed a higher bid earlier on... ebay only bids the minimum nessasery to out bid the last bidder.

You could have bid at the last moment also, then the bid which came through in the last 8 seconds (probably placed at about 30seconds) would have been outbid by yours.

The trick is to figure out how much you are willing to pay, then wait till the last moment and bid that ammount even if its miles higher than the current high bid. Don't just bid to out bid the current guy - bid to outbid the guy who just bids enough to outbid you.

That way if someone enters a bid thats only just above yours they instantly get the notice, sorry you were outbid (by your proxy bid). If their max bid is higher than what you're willing to pay then so be it - thats supply and demand.

[TheBile 0]

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Ebay does have that in their registration if I'm not mistaken. But once you register you have your SN and password, and put that in the sniping program... voila.

I didn't say about when you register with Ebay, I said each time you bid.

In yahoo:groups for example, a new pictured word comes up every time you want to join a new one. The snipe software cannot 'see' what that word is and so will not be able to progress with confirmation of the bid at auction closing time.

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[RevJim 0]

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You could have placed a higher bid earlier on... ebay only bids the minimum nessasery to out bid the last bidder.

You could have bid at the last moment also, then the bid which came through in the last 8 seconds (probably placed at about 30seconds) would have been outbid by yours.

The trick is to figure out how much you are willing to pay, then wait till the last moment and bid that ammount even if its miles higher than the current high bid. Don't just bid to out bid the current guy - bid to outbid the guy who just bids enough to outbid you.

That way if someone enters a bid thats only just above yours they instantly get the notice, sorry you were outbid (by your proxy bid). If their max bid is higher than what you're willing to pay then so be it - thats supply and demand.

As a buyer, I agree with you, but I see both sides. As a seller, I am of course trying to get the best price I can. This is why I personally hate sniping programs. Feel free to use them though. They are the very reason I almost always list as a reserve price auction. You may be able to snipe really low, but if it's below my reserve, nice waste of listing fees, but I'm not losing valuable property.

If it's something I picked up for nothing, or close to it, I'll start it at 99 cents with no reserve. If I'm invested in the item, I'll still start at 99 cents, but you can bet there will be a reserve on it.

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[mr2mk1g 10]

I prefer to list things at a high start price with no reserve. If people are serious about it they will bid from that price and will apreciate the fact they know how much its going to cost them to win the auction. If there's a reserve (unless you tell them what it is) I don't think people are as willing to bid as they have no idea how much they are going to have to shell out.

This is they way my friends and I operate anyway... if you transpose our methods onto the rest of the buyers then a reserve means less bids. Perhaps we're not that representative though and other buyers have feel differently about reserve auctions - who knows.

If I'm selling something and want proper money for it... I'm not going to use ebay (unless I'm being super lazy or I'm in a hurry). Things go for silly prices and I think (at least in this country) its easier to sell at a good price off ebay than on it.

I'm glad not everyone thinks this way though... or I wouldnt get such good deals.