DrunkMonkey 0 #1 March 12, 2004 So here's a story--looking for your reaction. On a particularly windy day, I had a bit of trouble collapsing my canopy after landing. Eventually got it under control, and went back to pack. Asked my coach for tips on collapsing it , then made my next jump. Same story, 25kt winds, gusting to 30, playing tug of war with my Triathlon. I tried for 5 min to collapse that pain in the ass, and then said fuckit, and cut it away. Now the DZO is busting my f**king balls over how I never listen/am a hazard. For chrissake, I make 1-2 weekends a month at the DZ, don't bother anyone, and he's busting my f**king balls. It wasn't rental gear, so WTF? I cannot wait to get out of this state. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #2 March 12, 2004 walk/run towards the canopy, and get on the other side. Maybe if you try and pull on 2-4 center lines, it should collapse the canopy. I wouldn't try that without gloves.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #3 March 12, 2004 Drop one toggle, pull in hard and fast on the other. The canopy has no choice but to deflate. Really.It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mindygirl 0 #4 March 12, 2004 Did you listen and do the tips that your coach gave you? If you did I don't understand why they would say you don't listen. Not sure the whole scenario, but don't know how that created a hazard.? Not too long ago our S&TA was getting drug by his canopy, cut away, and on instinct pulled the reserve handle. It was pretty good! Wow! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #5 March 12, 2004 Your kidding, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #6 March 12, 2004 If you're asking me, the answer is no, I'm not kidding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #7 March 12, 2004 Quote25kt winds, gusting to 30, Simple solution - don't jump in high winds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weegegirl 2 #8 March 12, 2004 how does not being able to collapse your canopy make you a hazzard to your dropzone? if your DZO is really on your case hardcore, are you sure there is nothing else to the story? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #9 March 12, 2004 QuoteQuote25kt winds, gusting to 30, Simple solution - don't jump in high winds. Got me there, Lisa. I was going to change my post to say that, but figured I'd just leave it, in case someone jumped into a landing area that had winds change after takeoff. Don't jump in high winds, if you can avoid it.It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdweller 0 #10 March 12, 2004 Was DZO upset about cutting the main away?------------------------------------------------------ "From the mightiest pharaoh to the lowliest peasant, who doesn't enjoy a good sit?" C. Montgomery Burns Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #11 March 12, 2004 I talked with him, and he's apparently under the impression that i do not listen. THis stems from the fact that as I am critiqued, I explain why I made the mistakes I made. I see it as lending them an insight into my thought process, they see it as not listening... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZoneRat 0 #12 March 12, 2004 As you go after the canopy on the ground, step on the pilot chute and walk up the bridal. Once you got the bridal underfoot, you're golden. If you cant handle your canopy on the ground in high winds, it probably doesn't instill great confidence in the DZO that you can handle it well getting it to the ground. Still. Sounds like an over-reaction. Buy the DZO a bag of pot and a blow up doll. He sounds tense. Oh, and Skybytch is right. She's always right.“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophies.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #13 March 12, 2004 There has GOT to be more to the story than as posted. That said, 25 gusting to 30 is way more than I'd be jumping in... Anyone who jumps in winds that high is asking for trouble. Sounds like your DZO might'v even had a point... _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #14 March 12, 2004 Don't know the situation.. But if it wasn't the first time the DZO got on your case...might be some 'under lying' problem. But it this was the first time you were chastised... BEER!!!!!!!!! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #15 March 12, 2004 I have had a couple of jumps in winds of 25 to 30 mph. Believe me when I say this, you'll be wishing you were on the ground watching the idiots up there than being up there going "oh shit oh shit I'm so fucked!" The last one, I was facing directly into the wind, and I was not making ANY forward movement in relation to the ground. I was simply floating straight down under a Triathlon 135 loaded about 1.25:1. I made the nicest softest touchdown ever, and then all hell broke loose and I was pulled off my feet and dragged some 40 to 50 yards across the field before I managed to turn over on my stomach and pull one of the toggles down. I didn't think about cutting away the main at the time, and I'm glad I didn't, because I had the RSL on. I don't jump with an RSL on anymore, and I also try to avoid jumping in winds like that. However, if you are jumping on a windy day that makes it tough to collapse your Triathlon, this is what I do - as soon as I touch down, I turn my back to the wind and force my Triathlon to do an about face, and then I pull my front risers down and slam the canopy nose into the ground and quickly gather up the lines and close off the nose, then ball up the canopy into your chest to carry it back to the packing area. If you can't do the steps I mentioned to get the canopy nose down, then the winds are too strong for you to be jumping in. Just my opinion and for safety's sake. Blue Skies Billy"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #16 March 12, 2004 QuoteOh, and Skybytch is right. She's always right. Nah. Not always. I've been wrong before. I'm sure I'll be wrong again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #17 March 12, 2004 QuoteNah. Not always. I've been wrong before. I'm sure I'll be wrong again Like when you introduce me to "joe" only to find out his name isn't joe...thats an example of you being wrong... ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #18 March 12, 2004 QuoteQuoteNah. Not always. I've been wrong before. I'm sure I'll be wrong again Like when you introduce me to "joe" only to find out his name isn't joe...thats an example of you being wrong... What can I say, he reminded me of this guy Joe that I had a major crush on when I was 16... I kinda hope he'll show up here someday so I can say "Hey Joe." Already blew my chances of a rematch with him, might as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #19 March 12, 2004 QuoteQuoteOh, and Skybytch is right. She's always right. Nah. Not always. I've been wrong before. I'm sure I'll be wrong again. Say it ain't so - My Image of you is CRUSHED.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #20 March 12, 2004 you ought to try jumping in kansas then... 15 mph winds is a normal day, 25 mph steady is jumpable, anything higher = cross-country's! MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #21 March 12, 2004 QuoteI talked with him, and he's apparently under the impression that i do not listen. THis stems from the fact that as I am critiqued, I explain why I made the mistakes I made. I see it as lending them an insight into my thought process, they see it as not listening... Pretty much everyone takes that as not listening. Let them finish. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #22 March 13, 2004 For some hints on collapsing canopies in wind, look at Brain Germain's user manual http://www.bigairsportz.com/basoman.pdf on page ~34, "Airlocks after Landing." I haven't had a chance to try these techniques, but they should work for non-airlocked canopies as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
