turtlespeed 226 #1 March 16, 2004 Technically - we are in the information age, right? So, if an outside civilization were to look upon us and make an analysis, what age would you think they would put us in, socially? My guess is that we are still in the equivallent of and advanced Middle Age. Yes we have advanced travel -and computers, but socialy, we are still just as barbaric if not even more so than we were 2000 years ago.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WeakMindedFool 0 #2 March 16, 2004 Quote So, if an outside civilization were to look upon us and make an analysis, what age would you think they would put us in, socially? Dark ages for sure...it'll take time but we will get out of it. We have lot's of nifty toys, and a child like understanding of how reality works but we can't seem to stop killing each other for reasons like, "God say's your a bad guy!" or "You crossed that imaginary line on that map so I'm gonna blow up your family!" not to mention the destruction of the environment we have to live in...which sucks cause we all know it's happening but can't control ourselves. Oh well, at least we don't have to live in the really bad parts of the planetFaith in a holy cause is to a considerable extent a substitute for lost faith in ourselves. -Eric Hoffer - Check out these Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #3 March 16, 2004 I hate to tell you bro but 2000 years ago was a lot worst. You have a lot more rights and are a lot safer then way back then. But i think we would be in the final age. We will soon all be dead as we kill ourselfs by all the crap we put in the air and water. Plus there is just too many of us we need to get rid of at least half. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #4 March 16, 2004 I don't care what age we are in as long they don't send to that freaky planet of the apes. wait a minute. . . statue of liberty?. . that was our planet! You MANIACS! You blew it up, damn you, damn you all to hell!! ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
osuskydiver 0 #5 March 16, 2004 well, if we are just as barbaric as 2000 years ago, at least the is better By the time you read this you have already read it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #6 March 16, 2004 Could you killl thousands of people at one time, losing less than say 10 of your people? Different yes, worse, no - The leaders then were just working on different guidelines - kill or be killed. Now it's kill cuz my god says you are bad.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #7 March 16, 2004 We are in the age of the big lie.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #8 March 16, 2004 This is definitely the age of the wimp. PCism, having to worry about offending people constantly, fear and demonization of weapons and self defense, affirmative action, speech codes on university campuses, etc etc etc.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingILweenie 0 #9 March 16, 2004 In the planet of the apes musical you'll play the human! it's the part i was born to play! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #10 March 16, 2004 QuoteWe are in the age of the big lie. global warming, kyoto treaty, gun control... nah, not the age of the big lie. that would mean at some point we weren't in that. This has been the epoch of the big lie, the eon of the big lie, the... you get the point.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #11 March 16, 2004 Geologically we are living in the Cenozoic Era(Age of Recent Life or Age of Mammals) which contains six major Epochs beginning about 65 million years ago. THe six are Paleocene, Eocene, Oligocene, Miocene, Pliocene, and the Pleistocene( Ice Ages). Currently we are in the seventh and latest which began about 11,000 years ago. This is called the Holocene. But if things keep up the way they are going perhaps the next stage will be the Kerocene ( for the fire that may engulf the planet thru wars) or perhaps the WeShouldHaveCene. Barbarism with kewl toys like the ones that have the ability to destroy all of the people on the planet does not bode well for the future. If we can't learn to all live together we surely will all perish together. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WeakMindedFool 0 #12 March 16, 2004 QuoteI don't care what age we are in as long they don't send to that freaky planet of the apes. Quote But if ya hat to choose...would it be the Planet of the Apes with Marky Mark or the Guy with the "Cold Dead Hands" quote? Remember, Marky Mark made bad music...but never trust poeple who dress up as Gladiators!Faith in a holy cause is to a considerable extent a substitute for lost faith in ourselves. -Eric Hoffer - Check out these Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nightingale 0 #13 March 16, 2004 um... Aquarius? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites WeakMindedFool 0 #14 March 16, 2004 Quote global warming, kyoto treaty, gun control... nah, not the age of the big lie. that would mean at some point we weren't in that. This has been the epoch of the big lie, the eon of the big lie, the... you get the point. Uhhh...Global warming isn't a lie, no reputable scientist disputes it. The question is wheather we are causing it, and that info isn't in.Faith in a holy cause is to a considerable extent a substitute for lost faith in ourselves. -Eric Hoffer - Check out these Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites happythoughts 0 #15 March 16, 2004 In the shorter term, there was the 70's, the 80's, and the 90's. Now we are in the zeroes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FallRate 0 #16 March 16, 2004 Actually the outside civilization would probably rank us as rather advanced if their analysis of us is for the purpose of invasion, enslavement and perpetual terror. This whole notion of intergallactic travel being possible only by a peaceful culture is nonsense. That sort of ability would require a concerted effort from nearly every member of the society, and what would that society look like? I'm thinking Germany, 1939. So who cares what a bunch of interstellar neo-nazis thinks about our progress? FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #17 March 16, 2004 that's wahat I meant, all the claims that we (our cars and ACs) are responsible for global warming. there isn't one solid piece of evidence stating we are doing it. the world goes through cycles. global heating and cooling happen. it takes a hell of an ego to think we are capable of that.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites weegegirl 2 #18 March 16, 2004 ahhhh.... so that's what happened to the bong!!! turtle!!!! that stuff is bad for you!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 226 #19 March 16, 2004 QuoteIn the planet of the apes musical you'll play the human! it's the part i was born to play! Right,! the one that gets a lobotamy.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 226 #20 March 16, 2004 Quoteahhhh.... so that's what happened to the bong!!! turtle!!!! that stuff is bad for you!!! Shush! ooooh pretty colors. Seriously - What Am I not able to have a serioous thread? OK, so in the futeure then - when the inhabitants of this planet are looking back at recorded history . . .I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites beowulf 1 #21 March 16, 2004 Isaac Asimov wrote a short story entitled "Silly asses" or something like that. I can't remember exactly what the title was. but anyway it was about two aliens that were examining Earth culture and commenting on how they won't need to help bring earthlings into their modern age because they were going to blow themselves up in a nuclear holocaust. I just thought it fit into this topic. Interesting story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #22 March 16, 2004 Back when the 13 Colonies were still a part of England, a Professor Alexander Tyler wrote about the fall of the Athenian Republic that had occurred over 1,000 years ago: "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising them the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, followed by dictatorship. The average age of the world's great civilizations has been 200 years. They have progressed as follows: · From bondage to spiritual faith; · From spiritual faith to great courage; · From great courage to liberty; · From liberty to abundance; · From abundance to selfishness; · From selfishness to complacency; · From complacency to apathy; · From apathy to dependency; · From dependency back to bondage." - "The Decline and Fall of the Athenian Republic", Alexander Fraser Tyler (1748 - 1813). I would say that we are somewhere in the bottom half of those stages to self-destruction... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #23 March 16, 2004 I'd say right about here --> "From apathy to dependency"witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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Nightingale 0 #13 March 16, 2004 um... Aquarius? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WeakMindedFool 0 #14 March 16, 2004 Quote global warming, kyoto treaty, gun control... nah, not the age of the big lie. that would mean at some point we weren't in that. This has been the epoch of the big lie, the eon of the big lie, the... you get the point. Uhhh...Global warming isn't a lie, no reputable scientist disputes it. The question is wheather we are causing it, and that info isn't in.Faith in a holy cause is to a considerable extent a substitute for lost faith in ourselves. -Eric Hoffer - Check out these Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #15 March 16, 2004 In the shorter term, there was the 70's, the 80's, and the 90's. Now we are in the zeroes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #16 March 16, 2004 Actually the outside civilization would probably rank us as rather advanced if their analysis of us is for the purpose of invasion, enslavement and perpetual terror. This whole notion of intergallactic travel being possible only by a peaceful culture is nonsense. That sort of ability would require a concerted effort from nearly every member of the society, and what would that society look like? I'm thinking Germany, 1939. So who cares what a bunch of interstellar neo-nazis thinks about our progress? FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #17 March 16, 2004 that's wahat I meant, all the claims that we (our cars and ACs) are responsible for global warming. there isn't one solid piece of evidence stating we are doing it. the world goes through cycles. global heating and cooling happen. it takes a hell of an ego to think we are capable of that.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weegegirl 2 #18 March 16, 2004 ahhhh.... so that's what happened to the bong!!! turtle!!!! that stuff is bad for you!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #19 March 16, 2004 QuoteIn the planet of the apes musical you'll play the human! it's the part i was born to play! Right,! the one that gets a lobotamy.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #20 March 16, 2004 Quoteahhhh.... so that's what happened to the bong!!! turtle!!!! that stuff is bad for you!!! Shush! ooooh pretty colors. Seriously - What Am I not able to have a serioous thread? OK, so in the futeure then - when the inhabitants of this planet are looking back at recorded history . . .I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #21 March 16, 2004 Isaac Asimov wrote a short story entitled "Silly asses" or something like that. I can't remember exactly what the title was. but anyway it was about two aliens that were examining Earth culture and commenting on how they won't need to help bring earthlings into their modern age because they were going to blow themselves up in a nuclear holocaust. I just thought it fit into this topic. Interesting story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #22 March 16, 2004 Back when the 13 Colonies were still a part of England, a Professor Alexander Tyler wrote about the fall of the Athenian Republic that had occurred over 1,000 years ago: "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising them the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, followed by dictatorship. The average age of the world's great civilizations has been 200 years. They have progressed as follows: · From bondage to spiritual faith; · From spiritual faith to great courage; · From great courage to liberty; · From liberty to abundance; · From abundance to selfishness; · From selfishness to complacency; · From complacency to apathy; · From apathy to dependency; · From dependency back to bondage." - "The Decline and Fall of the Athenian Republic", Alexander Fraser Tyler (1748 - 1813). I would say that we are somewhere in the bottom half of those stages to self-destruction... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #23 March 16, 2004 I'd say right about here --> "From apathy to dependency"witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
