rehmwa 2 #26 March 16, 2004 QuoteQuoteCan we vote for Clinton again? I liked him.... Technically he can be on the ticket as Kerry's VP. No he can't (since there is a potential for violation of the 10 year requirement. and there's nothing 'technical' about it) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #27 March 16, 2004 Yes he could be... Since he would not be elected to the position its not violating the 10 year clause. Its a loop hole that lets you be elected to another position but if you happen to get elevated to President later there is nothing wrong with that. AMENDMENT XXII Passed by Congress March 21, 1947. Ratified February 27, 1951. Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term. Section 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #28 March 16, 2004 Nice.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #29 March 16, 2004 I understand your loophole and it's a crock. Here's a good article for you to read http://www.presidentelect.org/art_preztoveep.html I misstated myself earlier, the 10 year AND the 2 term req would keep him out. Shit, the Dems could run Billy boy on their ticket as VP under the express agreement that the elected pres would step down after winning the election. The spirit of the law is pretty clear - your loophole doesn't hold water. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #30 March 16, 2004 That link is just one persons interpertation of the Constitution. Until the SC makes a ruleing on a situation like this, there is nothing to prevent any former President from running as a VP in the future. Spirit of the law and written law are two totally seperate things. Just look at all the tax shelters that people use. The spirit of the law is to eliminate them but since the loop holes are there they use them anyways.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #31 March 16, 2004 Gawd I Hate election years. And I'm even a political science grad....Fucking adults turned juvenile by spending billions on getting a $500,000/yr job... Please send me to an overseas airbase, please... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #32 March 16, 2004 Fine, let him try and we'll see how the real world works. It's pretty obvious we both understand what's written in the amendment and the related constitutional bits. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #33 March 16, 2004 >He shouldn't be claiming endorsements that aren't able to be confirmed. As it turned out, he never said that. From the Drudge Report: --------------------------------------- A BOSTON GLOBE reporter at the center of a growing controversy over comments made by John Kerry last week in Florida now claims he "screwed-up" -- and John Kerry never bragged how "foreign leaders" privately backed his presidential bid! "I mistranscribed a key word," explains Patrick Healy, a political reporter for the BOSTON GLOBE who covered the event in a pool capacity. "Listening to the audio recorder now, in the quiet of my house, I hear 'more leaders' and I am certain that 'more leaders' is what Senator Kerry said." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #34 March 16, 2004 I'm still in awe that you said it. You're so correct.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #35 March 16, 2004 QuoteA BOSTON GLOBE reporter at the center of a growing controversy over comments made by John Kerry last week in Florida now claims he "screwed-up" -- and John Kerry never bragged how "foreign leaders" privately backed his presidential bid! "I mistranscribed a key word," explains Patrick Healy, a political reporter for the BOSTON GLOBE who covered the event in a pool capacity. "Listening to the audio recorder now, in the quiet of my house, I hear 'more leaders' and I am certain that 'more leaders' is what Senator Kerry said." Got the tape...Or is this a cover up?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #36 March 16, 2004 bill -- I tried to tell them this yesterday and they simply ignored it. Once they get a notion into their heads . . . it's difficult to change it.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #37 March 16, 2004 QuoteI'm still in awe that you said it. You're so correct. But I'm still voting for him. I'd rather have an ass than a maniac. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #38 March 16, 2004 QuoteGot the tape...Or is this a cover up? Do you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #39 March 16, 2004 QuoteQuoteI'm still in awe that you said it. You're so correct. But I'm still voting for him. I'd rather have an ass than a maniac. Asses were made to be kicked... So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #40 March 16, 2004 QuoteQuoteGot the tape...Or is this a cover up? Do you? As prominant as is the technology of this age - one would think that if this WERE a statement of retraction that it would be acompanied by some sort of backing. Perhaps a .wav file. I for one believe he said exactly that - I mean his democratic predesessor, Algore said that he invented the internet - why shouldn't Kerry lie - it does a candidate good.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #41 March 16, 2004 Now who is the conspiracy theorist? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #42 March 16, 2004 QuoteNow who is the conspiracy theorist? Ummm - that would be anyone that doesn't trust the left leaning media.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #43 March 16, 2004 QuoteQuoteNow who is the conspiracy theorist? Ummm - that would be anyone that doesn't trust the left leaning media. So you trust the reporter when he says that Kerry said one thing. Than you distrust him when he says he made a mistake. Kind of convenient, no? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #44 March 16, 2004 > I for one believe he said exactly that . . . So a reporter said he didn't and you believe he did. Ah well. I suppose news is easier to stomach if you just plain make it up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #45 March 16, 2004 Quote> I for one believe he said exactly that . . . So a reporter said he didn't and you believe he did. Ah well. I suppose news is easier to stomach if you just plain make it up. Don't you think if it weren't true that Kerry would deny it? QuoteKerry refused on Sunday to name names. "No leader would obviously share a conversation if I started listing them," Kerry told reporters. He's not denying it - he's avoiding it - he's saying that the leaders that allegedly support him are either afraid to admit it or afraid that it is a bad choice. Either way he doesn't deny it.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #46 March 16, 2004 Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Got the tape...Or is this a cover up? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Do you? No, but you guys say all the time that Bush lied without proof. So all I asked was for proof."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #47 March 16, 2004 QuoteDon't you think if it weren't true that Kerry would deny it? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kerry refused on Sunday to name names. "No leader would obviously share a conversation if I started listing them," Kerry told reporters. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- He's not denying it - he's avoiding it - he's saying that the leaders that allegedly support him are either afraid to admit it or afraid that it is a bad choice. Either way he doesn't deny it. Oh good point...why would he not just deny it if it were not true? Why would he say he just can't tell? Sounds like BS to me."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #48 March 16, 2004 >He's not denying it - he's avoiding it . . To reply to a post and have your answer make sense, you have to actually read the post. He said "I've been hearing it, I'll tell ya. The news, the coverage in other countries, the news in other places. I've met more leaders who can't go out and say it all publicly, but boy they look at you and say, you gotta win this, you gotta beat this guy, we need a new policy, things like that. So there is enormous energy out there." He said "more leaders" not "foreign leaders." His claim is that leaders support his candidacy. Here are a few leaders who support Kerry; I got their names after spending ten seconds on Google. Harold Schaitberger - President, International Association of Fire Fighters Leo Gerard - President, United Steelworkers of America John Sweeney - President, AFL-CIO And those are the ones who admit it publically. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #49 March 16, 2004 Quote>He's not denying it - he's avoiding it . . To reply to a post and have your answer make sense, you have to actually read the post. He said "I've been hearing it, I'll tell ya. The news, the coverage in other countries, the news in other places. I've met more leaders who can't go out and say it all publicly, but boy they look at you and say, you gotta win this, you gotta beat this guy, we need a new policy, things like that. So there is enormous energy out there." He said "more leaders" not "foreign leaders." His claim is that leaders support his candidacy. Here are a few leaders who support Kerry; I got their names after spending ten seconds on Google. Harold Schaitberger - President, International Association of Fire Fighters Leo Gerard - President, United Steelworkers of America John Sweeney - President, AFL-CIO And those are the ones who admit it publically. Bill - He was responding to the allegations that he said that FORIEGN leaders were backing him( yes paraphrased) this was his response: Kerry refused on Sunday to name names. "No leader would obviously share a conversation if I started listing them," Kerry told reporters. He did not deny that he said "Foriegn" he just refused to name names He did not say that he was mis quoted, he refused to name names. He did not Rebuke the allegations that he said that foriegn leaders were backing him - he refused to name names. Not one mention of the word "More" came out of Kerrys mouth in any way trying to defend against any injustice done by misquoting him, he just refused to name names. I tell you what, if someone mis quotes me and i'm questioned about it - I certainly would tell the truth, or is that above his level?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #50 March 16, 2004 QuoteQuote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Got the tape...Or is this a cover up? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Do you? No, but you guys say all the time that Bush lied without proof. So all I asked was for proof. We all heard Bush tell his "untruths", he was on TV speaking to the Congress for many of them. It is also a matter of public record what he said about WMDs deployed "in 45 minutes" and that the CIA had already debunked this story when he said it. It is also a matter of public record what he said about veterans' care on the day he proposed reductions in benefits. It is a matter of public record what he said about no nation building ("Absolutely NOT"), and that we are now doing exactly that.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
