Guest #1 March 18, 2004 Interesting tactic the libs are up to, and very clever, I might add. Instead of sending hate-mail to the families of GIs killed in action like they did in Vietnam, this time the libs are co-opting those families, exploiting them by using the grief of their loss to further their political agenda. I'll say it again - Very clever. And very, very detestable. I didn't think the libs could stoop any lower than sending hate mail to families, but they have. Story here. mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #2 March 18, 2004 What you mean Bush didn't lie or manipulate intelligence to go into Iraq? Or are you pissed because some military families don't buy into the lie? Your story is suspect in my book, and I suppose your motives are pure. blues jerry Fire the Lying bastard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #3 March 18, 2004 QuoteWhat you mean Bush didn't lie or manipulate intelligence to go into Iraq? Or are you pissed because some military families don't buy into the lie? Your story is suspect in my book, and I suppose your motives are pure. blues jerry Fire the Lying bastard. The story is running in the media - it didn't originate with me. The libs are acting just like the ambulance-chasers who use the families of skydiving-mishap victims as their puppets. I grant you, skydiving is quite a bit different from WAR, but the theme is the same - EXPLOITATION FOR POLITICAL GAIN. mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #4 March 18, 2004 The story is running in the media - it didn't originate with me. The libs are acting just like the ambulance-chasers who use the families of skydiving-mishap victims as their puppets. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Yea well just wait a few days and the republicans are sure to get in on the act with their own spin. OTOH you can expect some families to be bitter its human nature after all, not everyone can suck it up when Johnnie dies. blues jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #5 March 18, 2004 Sure, and it's perfectly understandable, but it's the worst kind of political pefidy to exploit the grief of others for one's own political gain. Further, those who are whining because they thought they should "join the Army for college" and were surprised to find themselves in a war should STFU. What did they think the Army is for? Well, libs see it as a laboratory for social engineering, but it's not seen that way by the warmasters in the Pentagon, or by their leadership in the House, or over at 1600. The military is a political tool - the ultimate expression of which is Karl von Clausewitz - "War is a continuation of diplomacy by other means." And riddle me this, Batman - if your buddy Kerry wins the election and doesn't pull the plug on Iraq (which he won't be able to do no matter what - trust me on this one) who will libs blame THEN? Who will they march in protest against? I almost hope Kerry wins, I really do, for this reason alone. Oh yeah, libs will continue to blame the Bush Administration, but that will only go so far. It will be interesting to see how things are handled then. BTW - Just in case it was ever in doubt, absolutely none of this is personal. mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #6 March 18, 2004 Sure, and it's perfectly understandable, but it's the worst kind of political pefidy to exploit the grief of others for one's own political gain. ----------------------------------------------------------------- You had to go and say that, what do you call it when Bush runs footage of 9/11 in his political adds? I don't have a problem with your second paragraph. I hope Kerry wins too, but for different reasons. LOL news flash its the Iraqi who will throw our ass out of Iraq. blues jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #7 March 18, 2004 QuoteYou had to go and say that, what do you call it when Bush runs footage of 9/11 in his political adds? That it was crass and tacky, and a bad move politically. When I heard the news about it, I thought to myself - well, there goes the election......so that goes DOUBLE for the libs, IMHO. QuoteI don't have a problem with your second paragraph. I'm pleased to hear that... QuoteI hope Kerry wins too, but for different reasons. Guess there aren't enough Northeastern Liberal Establishment HYPOCRITES in DC these days... QuoteLOL news flash its the Iraqi who will throw our ass out of Iraq. Arabs aren't Viet Cong, much as Libs would like for them to be. Quoteblues jerry Back at cha... mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #8 March 18, 2004 I must have been reading a different article than you. I didn't interpret it as exploitation of families at all. I interpreted it that families were sick of being exploited by the Bush administration for political/monetary gain.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #9 March 18, 2004 Quote I must have been reading a different article than you. I didn't interpret it as exploitation of families at all. I interpreted it that families were sick of being exploited by the Bush administration for political/monetary gain. Yup, that's how I'm interpreting it too. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #10 March 18, 2004 QuoteAnd riddle me this, Batman - if your buddy Kerry wins the election and doesn't pull the plug on Iraq (which he won't be able to do no matter what - trust me on this one) who will libs blame THEN? Keeping soldiers in Iraq at the moment is the right thing to do. However Bush will still be the one who sent them there in the first place and that is the questionable decision. If Kerry gets in will it suddenly be his fault that troops are in Iraq? Of course not. Bush will still be the man to blame.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #11 March 18, 2004 QuoteSure, and it's perfectly understandable, but it's the worst kind of political pefidy to exploit the grief of others for one's own political gain. For example - Patriot Act, Dept Of Homeland Security, Haliburton, a War, video footage of 9/11 in political commercials. It goes both ways Mark. Neither side is innocent, and both can develop spin and bang on the drum to prove the other guy is doing it as well. Are we going to get into a pissing contest of who is worse now? It is unethical, and both sides should stop._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #12 March 18, 2004 Quote I must have been reading a different article than you. I didn't interpret it as exploitation of families at all. I interpreted it that families were sick of being exploited by the Bush administration for political/monetary gain. Exactly - our troops went over there to fight and die in a war they believed was necessary for the safety of America. As it turns out, it was based on lie after lie - most voiced right on national TV. Even if MovOn.org and others are involved in this, do you think it was fair to our troops to be sent over there on a lie to die? From their Commander in Cheif? I tend to think if the war had honorable, truthful reasons behind it the familes would not be listening to the democratic spnosored groups. Bush brought this on himself._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #13 March 18, 2004 what I'm trying to figure out is why you've chosen to place "activist" in quotation marks. Activist: A proponent or practitioner of activism Activism: n : a policy of taking direct action to achieve a political or social goal It seems like they are taking direct action to achieve their political goal. They fit the definition of activists, therefore no quotation marks necessary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites