JohnRich 4 #1 March 18, 2004 From the news, paraphrased: The new campaign finance law makes it against the law for advocacy organizations to run ads about federal candidates close to elections. The NRA believes this violates the right to free speech, and is one of many organizations that has taken the law to court. Oddly, the Supreme Court ruled that this law is valid. The NRA is considering acquiring a television or radio outlet which would make them an official member of "the media", and thereby exempting them from the prohibition. This would allow them to aid advertisements informing the public of their view of candidates. But John Kerry isn't happy with the NRA being able to say what they want. Kerry sent Federal Election Commission Chairwoman Ellen Weintraub a letter asking the commission to block any attempt by the NRA to get a media exemption to campaign finance rules: "We urge you to prevent the NRA from hijacking America's airwaves with the gun lobby's money," Kerry's letter said. Full Story Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainbo 0 #2 March 18, 2004 Yeah but he is more than happy to let his 527 groups blast the republicans.Rainbo TheSpeedTriple - Speed is everything "Blessed are those who can give without remembering, and take without forgetting." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #3 March 18, 2004 From CNN: ---------------- The Republican National Committee is warning television stations across the country not to run ads from the MoveOn.org Voter Fund that criticize President Bush, charging that the left-leaning political group is paying for them with money raised in violation of the new campaign-finance law. As a broadcaster licensed by the Federal Communications Commission, you have a responsibility to the viewing public, and to your licensing agency, to refrain from complicity in any illegal activity," said the RNC's chief counsel, Jill Holtzman Vogel, in a letter sent to about 250 stations Friday. "Now that you have been apprised of the law, to prevent further violations of federal law, we urge you to remove these advertisements from your station's broadcast rotation." But MoveOn.org's lawyer, Joseph Sandler, said in a statement that the ads were funded legally, calling the RNC's letter "a complete misrepresentation of the law." "The federal campaign laws have permitted precisely this use of money for advertising for the past 25 years," he said. And MoveOn.org, which was planning to spend $1.9 million on an ad buy that started Thursday, said Friday that it would spend another $1 million. --------------------- So John, has that pot met that particular kettle yet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #4 March 18, 2004 If they were part of the media, then they would need to follow the egual time law - for every second of pro-bush campaign junk, they would need to do the same for Kerry._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #5 March 18, 2004 Read this. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #6 March 18, 2004 QuoteThe NRA believes this violates the right to free speech, and is one of many organizations that has taken the law to court. Oddly, the Supreme Court ruled that this law is valid. I get this feeling you would find it odd if any court, including the Supreme Court would rule against the NRA on any issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #7 March 18, 2004 QuoteRead this. If you dislike political threads so much, what are you doing here reading this one? Maybe you should just follow your own link... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,146 #8 March 18, 2004 QuoteYeah but he is more than happy to let his 527 groups blast the republicans. And Bush is against the 527 groups. Six of one and half-dozen of the other. The courts will decide, not Fox News. Matthew 7: 3-4... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TheAnvil 0 #9 March 18, 2004 I was surprised at the ACLU's silence on the first ammendment issues associated with the new campaign finance reform laws. Don't recall hearing them at all, though I could be mistaken. They weren't part of McConnell's lawsuit, were they? I forget.Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #10 March 18, 2004 QuoteSo John, has that pot met that particular kettle yet? Yep, it sounds like it. They're both disgusting. Controlling who gets to say what, and when, is not the proper way to win votes and an election, in a free society. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #11 March 18, 2004 QuoteQuoteThe NRA believes this violates the right to free speech, and is one of many organizations that has taken the law to court. Oddly, the Supreme Court ruled that this law is valid. I get this feeling you would find it odd if any court, including the Supreme Court would rule against the NRA on any issue. This issue is not just about the NRA. Other organizations joined in the lawsuit, like the ACLU, NAACP, environmental groups, and so on. They cover a cross-section of every conceivable political bent. It is fundamentall wrong to prohibit political speech. That's the whole purpose of the 1st Amendment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #12 March 18, 2004 Quoteis not the proper way to win votes and an election, in a free society. I wonder when Americans realize that really their country isn't as free as they perceive it to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #13 March 18, 2004 Once again...both sides wrong on this. Bush uses taxpayer money to create propaganda ads that look like legitimate news reports, which is clearly a violation of the law and has nothing to do with free speech. And than Kerry responds with this. Neither side is going to be taking the high road in this campaign. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 226 #14 March 18, 2004 Neither one need to be in office! Where's Ross when you need him.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
JohnRich 4 #7 March 18, 2004 QuoteRead this. If you dislike political threads so much, what are you doing here reading this one? Maybe you should just follow your own link... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #8 March 18, 2004 QuoteYeah but he is more than happy to let his 527 groups blast the republicans. And Bush is against the 527 groups. Six of one and half-dozen of the other. The courts will decide, not Fox News. Matthew 7: 3-4... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #9 March 18, 2004 I was surprised at the ACLU's silence on the first ammendment issues associated with the new campaign finance reform laws. Don't recall hearing them at all, though I could be mistaken. They weren't part of McConnell's lawsuit, were they? I forget.Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #10 March 18, 2004 QuoteSo John, has that pot met that particular kettle yet? Yep, it sounds like it. They're both disgusting. Controlling who gets to say what, and when, is not the proper way to win votes and an election, in a free society. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #11 March 18, 2004 QuoteQuoteThe NRA believes this violates the right to free speech, and is one of many organizations that has taken the law to court. Oddly, the Supreme Court ruled that this law is valid. I get this feeling you would find it odd if any court, including the Supreme Court would rule against the NRA on any issue. This issue is not just about the NRA. Other organizations joined in the lawsuit, like the ACLU, NAACP, environmental groups, and so on. They cover a cross-section of every conceivable political bent. It is fundamentall wrong to prohibit political speech. That's the whole purpose of the 1st Amendment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #12 March 18, 2004 Quoteis not the proper way to win votes and an election, in a free society. I wonder when Americans realize that really their country isn't as free as they perceive it to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #13 March 18, 2004 Once again...both sides wrong on this. Bush uses taxpayer money to create propaganda ads that look like legitimate news reports, which is clearly a violation of the law and has nothing to do with free speech. And than Kerry responds with this. Neither side is going to be taking the high road in this campaign. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #14 March 18, 2004 Neither one need to be in office! Where's Ross when you need him.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
