Slappie 9 #1 March 18, 2004 Could Stern's anti-Bush rants shock the vote? But wait a minute: Is "shock jock" Howard Stern -- stripper aficionado, champion of misfits everywhere, all-purpose radio provocateur -- already giving liberals a voice on the airwaves? And is that voice powerful enough to affect the upcoming presidential election? Since the FCC crackdown on media "indecency" in the wake of Janet Jackson's Nipplegate incident, Stern has transformed his morning variety show into a rabidly anti-Bush talk forum. Every weekday, he has been devoting hours of his broadcast (locally on WBCN-FM, 104.1) to impassioned criticism of President Bush and support of Senator John Kerry. Railing tirelessly against the president, Stern has been attacking Bush's yoking together of church and state, the legitimacy of his National Guard service, his use of Sept. 11 imagery in his campaign ads, his stances regarding First Amendment rights, his handling of Iraq, and his stands on gay marriage and stem-cell research. Clicky to story "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #2 March 18, 2004 Is Stern the "Rush" of the Dem party? Hmmmm maybe he's cashing in or does he really want to do something.. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #3 March 18, 2004 YAY!!!!!!!!! MORE REPETITIVE POLITICAL TALK!!!!! WOOT! Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #4 March 18, 2004 The only thing more repetitive than the political threads are your dozen posts declaring the political threads repetitive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #5 March 18, 2004 QuoteThe only thing more repetitive than the political threads are your dozen posts declaring the political threads repetitive. You said that already. I think all that time in jail has damaged you _________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #6 March 18, 2004 QuoteIs Stern the "Rush" of the Dem party? Hmmmm maybe he's cashing in or does he really want to do something.. Actually, he firmly backed Bush until the beginning of this year. He was and still is 100% in favor of invading Iraq, etc. But when other social issues started coming to light, and Bush exposed his religious bias when writing policy, Stern started mouthing off about him. I'm sure it's a completely self-serving effort on his part to get the FCC to back off. But he is influential. Lots of people spend hours a day listening to him. His propaganda will get through to a lot of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #7 March 18, 2004 QuoteYAY!!!!!!!!! MORE REPETITIVE POLITICAL TALK!!!!! WOOT! Actually tuna, this is a different spin on the usual political threads. This is a story about a DJ whos decided to become political. Stern wasn't a huge political ranter, he's only become one since the FCC and the Goverment has cracked down on morning talk shows across the nation.. The only reason it's "news" is Stern could actually make an impact on the Presidential Election. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingILweenie 0 #8 March 18, 2004 I'm not particularly knowledgeable about politics but you know, even if Stern's rants are only to get back at the FCC and whatnot, good for him. They pushed him, now he's pushing back the best way he knows how. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #9 March 18, 2004 QuoteThe only thing more repetitive than the political threads are your dozen posts declaring the political threads repetitive. Now son, do you really want to tally up your political/religeon/gun threads compared to my opposition of them? If so, here you go. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #10 March 18, 2004 QuoteThe only thing more repetitive than the political threads are your dozen posts declaring the political threads repetitive. I agree. Why would anyone keep clicking on threads that they have no interest in, much less keep posting in them (which then bumps the thread)??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #11 March 18, 2004 Quote Stern wasn't a huge political ranter, he's only become one since the FCC and the Goverment has cracked down on morning talk shows across the nation.. Quote Really? I'm sure Gov. Pataki would disagree, and be thankful that you are wrong... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Slappie 9 #12 March 18, 2004 QuoteI'm not particularly knowledgeable about politics but you know, even if Stern's rants are only to get back at the FCC and whatnot, good for him. They pushed him, now he's pushing back the best way he knows how. I agree and he's got a huge following. He's got a point also... QuoteWhether or not he is being censored for putting down Bush, the First Amendment issues at stake in his case remain incendiary. How much is America willing to let politicians determine what is "decent" and "indecent"? Where do you people stand on this issue? "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Slappie 9 #13 March 18, 2004 Ok lemme rephrase my statement.. Stern wasn't a huge political ranter on a national scale. He wasn't devoting most of his 4 hour show to politic and ranting about the President and his policies. Attacks on Govenors and such were always around. This is completely new for Stern to turn his normal show around. Quote And until recently, Stern was supportive of Bush and the decision to go to war in Iraq. But Stern has never come out so relentlessly for or against a politician, and he is best known as someone who would just as soon joke about flatulence and prostitution as take on the government. His anti-Bush push began in earnest after the FCC crackdown on "indecency" inspired Clear Channel -- which he calls "Fear Channel" -- to remove his show from six cities the week of Feb. 23. While those markets form a relatively small portion of his audience, the punitive action threw Stern for a loop. And his outrage has boiled to a head with news that Congress is currently considering a radical increase in the amount of FCC indecency fines (from a maximum of $27,500 to $500,000). "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #14 March 18, 2004 QuoteQuoteThe only thing more repetitive than the political threads are your dozen posts declaring the political threads repetitive. Now son, do you really want to tally up your political/religeon/gun threads compared to my opposition of them? If so, here you go. Not really...just wonder why you care to complain so much about them when 40% of your last 25 posts have been in political threads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tunaplanet 0 #15 March 18, 2004 QuoteNot really...just wonder why you care to complain so much about them Same reason you post repetitive threads, perhaps? Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #16 March 18, 2004 To get interesting and thought provoking feedback. You're not providing any. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tunaplanet 0 #17 March 18, 2004 Neither are you. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #18 March 18, 2004 That's it....we've degenerated to the raspberry stage.... Edit to ad. Am too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Slappie 9 #19 March 18, 2004 grumbles.. ya bastages hijacked me thread.. no more beer for either of ya for a week "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #20 March 18, 2004 >Is Stern the "Rush" of the Dem party? Well, their techniques are quite similar, and they both make money by saying outrageous things and appealing to a specific target audience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydyvr 0 #21 March 19, 2004 QuoteNow son, do you really want to . . . Hehe, guys who call other guys "son" make me laugh . . . . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Slappie 9 #22 March 19, 2004 Oh man here comes the FCC Again. On a semi related story. Dropping the F-Bomb on broadcast media is going to cost a fortune. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114626,00.html Quote In another decision Thursday, the FCC proposed fining Infinity Broadcasting the maximum $27,500 for a Stern show broadcast July 26, 2001, on WKRK-FM in Detroit. The FCC received a complaint from a Detroit listener about a show that featured discussions about sexual practices and techniques. FCC is going after him 3 years later? This action can't be because of his recent tirades or spewing antiBush hatred can it? "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pajarito 0 #23 March 19, 2004 I hope people are intelligent enough not to take Howard Stern, of all people, seriously. Even liberals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #24 March 19, 2004 I hope that same thing about Limbaugh and the conservatives that swear by him. Sadly, though, people aren't as intelligent as you and I hope. I forget the exact statistic, but it was a pretty high number of people who considered "attractiveness" to be a major factor when deciding for whom to vote. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 3ringheathen 0 #25 March 20, 2004 QuoteI hope people are intelligent enough not to take Howard Stern, of all people, seriously. Even liberals. You aren't giving him enough credit. His assessment of the issues surrounding stem cell research, gay marriage, and racism are dead on. He's not the sharpest political knife in the drawer, but he's capable of insightful political discussion. 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Slappie 9 #12 March 18, 2004 QuoteI'm not particularly knowledgeable about politics but you know, even if Stern's rants are only to get back at the FCC and whatnot, good for him. They pushed him, now he's pushing back the best way he knows how. I agree and he's got a huge following. He's got a point also... QuoteWhether or not he is being censored for putting down Bush, the First Amendment issues at stake in his case remain incendiary. How much is America willing to let politicians determine what is "decent" and "indecent"? Where do you people stand on this issue? "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #13 March 18, 2004 Ok lemme rephrase my statement.. Stern wasn't a huge political ranter on a national scale. He wasn't devoting most of his 4 hour show to politic and ranting about the President and his policies. Attacks on Govenors and such were always around. This is completely new for Stern to turn his normal show around. Quote And until recently, Stern was supportive of Bush and the decision to go to war in Iraq. But Stern has never come out so relentlessly for or against a politician, and he is best known as someone who would just as soon joke about flatulence and prostitution as take on the government. His anti-Bush push began in earnest after the FCC crackdown on "indecency" inspired Clear Channel -- which he calls "Fear Channel" -- to remove his show from six cities the week of Feb. 23. While those markets form a relatively small portion of his audience, the punitive action threw Stern for a loop. And his outrage has boiled to a head with news that Congress is currently considering a radical increase in the amount of FCC indecency fines (from a maximum of $27,500 to $500,000). "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #14 March 18, 2004 QuoteQuoteThe only thing more repetitive than the political threads are your dozen posts declaring the political threads repetitive. Now son, do you really want to tally up your political/religeon/gun threads compared to my opposition of them? If so, here you go. Not really...just wonder why you care to complain so much about them when 40% of your last 25 posts have been in political threads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #15 March 18, 2004 QuoteNot really...just wonder why you care to complain so much about them Same reason you post repetitive threads, perhaps? Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #16 March 18, 2004 To get interesting and thought provoking feedback. You're not providing any. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #17 March 18, 2004 Neither are you. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #18 March 18, 2004 That's it....we've degenerated to the raspberry stage.... Edit to ad. Am too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #19 March 18, 2004 grumbles.. ya bastages hijacked me thread.. no more beer for either of ya for a week "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #20 March 18, 2004 >Is Stern the "Rush" of the Dem party? Well, their techniques are quite similar, and they both make money by saying outrageous things and appealing to a specific target audience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #21 March 19, 2004 QuoteNow son, do you really want to . . . Hehe, guys who call other guys "son" make me laugh . . . . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #22 March 19, 2004 Oh man here comes the FCC Again. On a semi related story. Dropping the F-Bomb on broadcast media is going to cost a fortune. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114626,00.html Quote In another decision Thursday, the FCC proposed fining Infinity Broadcasting the maximum $27,500 for a Stern show broadcast July 26, 2001, on WKRK-FM in Detroit. The FCC received a complaint from a Detroit listener about a show that featured discussions about sexual practices and techniques. FCC is going after him 3 years later? This action can't be because of his recent tirades or spewing antiBush hatred can it? "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #23 March 19, 2004 I hope people are intelligent enough not to take Howard Stern, of all people, seriously. Even liberals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #24 March 19, 2004 I hope that same thing about Limbaugh and the conservatives that swear by him. Sadly, though, people aren't as intelligent as you and I hope. I forget the exact statistic, but it was a pretty high number of people who considered "attractiveness" to be a major factor when deciding for whom to vote. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3ringheathen 0 #25 March 20, 2004 QuoteI hope people are intelligent enough not to take Howard Stern, of all people, seriously. Even liberals. You aren't giving him enough credit. His assessment of the issues surrounding stem cell research, gay marriage, and racism are dead on. He's not the sharpest political knife in the drawer, but he's capable of insightful political discussion. That is, when he's not talking about lesbians and farts. -Josh If you have time to panic, you have time to do something more productive. -Me* *Ron has accused me of plagiarizing this quote. He attributes it to Douglas Adams. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
