DocPop 1 #1 August 3, 2010 I just (15 jumps ago) got a Katana 135 and am absolutely loving it. However, I have had some REALLY snivelly openings and I was wondering if there is any way to speed up the opening a little by changing my packjob. Currently I am leaving the nose hanging and cupping the slider over it and putting 3-4 loose rolls in the tail. Maybe this is just a Katana thing (I assume that is the reason for the mesh on the slider) as a friend has a Katana 107 and she says it takes a long time to open."The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #2 August 3, 2010 Don't change anything with the pack job or the canopy. If your canopy wants to open slow, that better than the alternative, and a snively canopy can trun into a slammer with just slight changes. Just give a sytemtrical tug on your rear risers where you're ready for the slider to come down. if you think back to your FJC, the solution to a slider that doesn't come all the way down was to flare the canopy, and the slider would come all the way down (of course, if the slider was stuck 1/2 way up or more, the solution was to cut away). Either way, tugging the rear risers does the same thing. Leave it open slow, and use the risers to fine tune it. If you speed it up, and it wants to open too fast, there's no solution to that except pain killers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocPop 1 #3 August 3, 2010 Thanks Dave - I would much prefer my openings to be a bit slow rather than risk a slammer! I guess I'll just get used to it."The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sangi 0 #4 August 3, 2010 Oh noes! 200 jumps and a 135 Katana!!! Where's the canopy nazi police?!"Dream as you'll live forever, live as you'll die today." James Dean Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #5 August 3, 2010 He knows the deal. He's been on DZ.com enough, and invovled in enough threads about overloaded HP canopies with too few jumps. It should be no surprise to him, or anyone around him if something should go wrong. I'll save the canopy nazi stuff for the guys I'm not 100% sure have read it already. A new jumper, or new poster may have never heard any of it before, so I'll repeat myself for the 1000th time, and spell it out for them. Docpop knows he's pushing it, he thinks he has ot all figured out, and he also knows that every guy that augered in thought they had it all figured out too. Meanwhile, he's jumping the second highest performance canopy PD has ever made and he doesn't know to pop the rear risers to get the slider down. If you ever actually make some jumps, and then start to jump a HP canopy, I wouldnt' spell it out for you either. You've been on the board long enough, you know the deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #6 August 3, 2010 teach me to swoop"Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocPop 1 #7 August 3, 2010 Quote Meanwhile, he's jumping the second highest performance canopy PD has ever made and he doesn't know to pop the rear risers to get the slider down. That's not true, Dave, I have used the rears to get the slider down on this canopy and on others. My question was about whether I could adjust the packjob to avoid the need to mess with risers on opening as I prefer to just stay neutral and let it do its thing. On the rest of your post - you are quite correct. I realize that I am moving a lot faster than is recommended and I accept the risks involved."The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
menopause 0 #8 August 3, 2010 QuoteI accept the risks involved. Have you asked everyone you fly with if they are okay with you risking their life? Your choice (for better or worse) isn't just about you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sangi 0 #9 August 3, 2010 If everyone can regulate you, then you should be able to regulate everyone."Dream as you'll live forever, live as you'll die today." James Dean Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #10 August 3, 2010 QuoteThat's not true, Dave, I have used the rears to get the slider down on this canopy and on others. On the rest of your post - you are quite correct. That sucks for you, because out of what I wrote, the riser thing should be the least of your worries. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocPop 1 #11 August 3, 2010 QuoteQuoteI accept the risks involved. Have you asked everyone you fly with if they are okay with you risking their life? Yes Sir/Ma'am [delete as necessary] Can we have a show of hands for who would like this thread to turn into yet another fucking canopy choice bitch-fest?"The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burtonjm 0 #12 August 3, 2010 I've sped up the openings on my canopy some by not pulling the slider in front of the nose (just pulling it straight down) and then opening each of the nose cells a little and leaving them out to catch air. That worked well for me.This shit, right here, is OK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
menopause 0 #13 August 3, 2010 QuoteCan we have a show of hands for who would like this thread to turn into yet another fucking canopy choice bitch-fest? *Raises hand* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #14 August 3, 2010 If I were you, I'd leave the openings alone, just raise the deployment altitude to compensate so you don't get too low. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocPop 1 #15 August 3, 2010 Quote If I were you, I'd leave the openings alone, just raise the deployment altitude to compensate so you don't get too low. That's exactly what I have been doing - seems like I am on the right track. I opened at 9,000 for the first 8 or 9 jumps and it didn't worry me at all then!!"The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocPop 1 #16 August 3, 2010 QuoteQuoteCan we have a show of hands for who would like this thread to turn into yet another fucking canopy choice bitch-fest? *Raises hand* Why don't you start by posting your jumps and canopy/WL in your profile instead of cowering behind your anonymity?"The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fcajump 164 #17 August 3, 2010 Quoteit takes a long time to open. Can you define "a long time?" My Spectres have taught me patience... JW (personally I agree with davelepka, and I await the daily updates on a friend who is going through PT/OT to regain the use of his body... the impact you risk is not to you alone.)Always remember that some clouds are harder than others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trigger 0 #18 August 3, 2010 Should'av brought the crossfire. 800ft+/- of pure bliss..CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roostnureye 2 #19 August 3, 2010 leave the slider collapsed or pack it down Flock University FWC / ZFlock B.A.S.E. 1580 Aussie BASE 121 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocPop 1 #20 August 3, 2010 QuoteQuoteit takes a long time to open. Can you define "a long time?" My Spectres have taught me patience... JW Seven or eight seconds of snivel at times. A hell of a lot longer than my Sabre2. If this is a characteristic of the canopy - so be it - it could be a lot worse!"The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craigbey 0 #21 August 3, 2010 200 jumps, a Katana 135 (@ 1.5) and unnecessary input on the risers during the opening sequence... Good Luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skydivesg 7 #22 August 5, 2010 Get the semi-stowless bag from UPT Vector. It gets to line stretch quicker and better, more consistant on heading openings.Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
