Gawain 0 #1 March 22, 2004 Sheik Ahmed Yassin was a very, very high-profile figure, pretty much the founder of Hamas. This probably doesn't disable Hamas, and there is certainly the risk of this new martyr to really kick up the violence up a notch or two. However, the Israelis likely deduced (correctly I think) that violence was forthcoming from Hamas anyway. Several links: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114784,00.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3556099.stm http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/03/21/yassin/index.html AP link through Yahoo! Pretty big deal. We'll see who's head pops up to guide the snake now.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #2 March 22, 2004 Nice to see one less of the Hamas living. can you believe this statement QuoteThe Palestinian Authority declared three days of mourning and said the Israelis had crossed "all red lines with this cheap and dirty crime." cheap and dirty crime to me is Hamas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cudlo 0 #3 March 22, 2004 hrm "bring death to every home in Israel," and also hinted it would target Israel's ally the United States. well then... someone is volunteering to be live test dummies for the MOAB Nothin like the smell of crispy terrorists to wake ya up._________________________________________ "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." - Kierkegaard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #4 March 22, 2004 Quotewell then... someone is volunteering to be live test dummies for the MOAB naaah, hellfires work best... anyway, it will raise some flames because he was their "religious guru" but for me, any religious guru who uses his religion to recruit and motivate suicide bombers is much worse than those who are sent to explode in busses. he was in no way a "political figure" only. he was the founder, chief and only authority of Hamas. and as for their "revenge", they carry out terror attacks when, where and as many as they can. it will not stop terror, but it will make them run for their lives instead of sitting and planning the end of mine. O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cudlo 0 #5 March 22, 2004 True. It would be kind of interesting if they realized that Israel isn't going anyway. And terrorism isn't going to help them become an independant state when all they are doing is pissing off the 5th(i think?) strongest military in the world (also noted by the US and Russia to have basically perfected the art of urban warfare). Oh well. Maybe, they will learn before they are all dead...._________________________________________ "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." - Kierkegaard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #6 March 22, 2004 you're right about one thing. Israel has a very strong army (because it was needed mostly...) but a strong army can't fight terror. there is no "operational" problem to move in with tanks and shoot anything and everything but despite what some might think we actually try to hit the terrorists while hurting the innocent as less as possible (and thats why they've used precision missiles that killed him and his companions and not a "bunker blaster" bomb on his house). do i like "controlling" palestinians? no do i want them to have a state next to mine? yes. do i like the fact that civilians are having rough times because ambulances were used to carry explosives and explosive vest was hidden in a 12 years old school boy? no, but i don't see any other choice. O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cudlo 0 #7 March 22, 2004 Believe me. I understand what you're saying. And I know that you guys dont go out looking to kill innocent civilians (one of my best friends in basic training was israeli). My main problem is just hearing too many people complain about Israel without ever having any constructive ideas about what should change (with the exception of "Israel should just go away"). Argh. Ill end up going on for hours and just end up with a headache. Be safe and blue skies_________________________________________ "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." - Kierkegaard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #8 March 22, 2004 What the heck too the Israelis so long???? Is Yasser Arafat next?? Bill Cole D-41 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #9 March 22, 2004 Good riddance. I wonder how many people Hamas has killed...that would be a nice stat for the media to put up. Vinny the AnvilVinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #10 March 22, 2004 QuoteGood riddance. I wonder how many people Hamas has killed...that would be a nice stat for the media to put up. here you go... in the past 3 years only (since the collaps of the peace process, Hamas only, not including other groups) 425 terror attacks (including those with no victims) 377 dead. 2,076 wounded. and if you count only the lethal ones (again 3 years): 52 attacks which killed 288 victims and wounded 1,646. O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxmadmax 8 #11 March 22, 2004 It's called the "reach out and touch someone" plan. Touch 'em with a missle. Don't go away mad....just go away! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #12 March 22, 2004 Too little, too late in my book.......but it's a good start on the rest of the extremists that should be sent to "paradise" early...Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #13 March 22, 2004 Now let's here that on CNN....Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #14 March 22, 2004 Woke up at 3AM after a bender, and saw the video. There were pieces of the guy's wheelchair, some clothes, and some blood - that's about it. I don't approve of the action, but I think Leon Klinghoffer can rest easier now. mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #15 March 22, 2004 QuoteWhat the heck too the Israelis so long???? They tried to whack him last September, but missed. QuoteIs Yasser Arafat next?? Hope not - better "The Devil You Know"... mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #16 March 22, 2004 Meanwhile, European leaders are condemning the attack, urging instead a "peace" process that has been stalled for months and is of no interest to the Palestinians. Appeasement doesn't work.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #17 March 22, 2004 QuoteMeanwhile, European leaders are condemning the attack, urging instead a "peace" process that has been stalled for months and is of no interest to the Palestinians. Appeasement doesn't work. i wonder what would their reaction be if it was the mind behind the madrid attacks... no endto hypocrisy... O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #18 March 22, 2004 Quotei wonder what would their reaction be if it was the mind behind the madrid attacks... no endto hypocrisy... Alas, Spain already handed the terrorists not just one victory, but two. They voted in a new government (that is to say: "Okay, leave us alone now and bother someone else.") and that new government is getting ready to turn 180 degrees (that is to say: "This reaffirms that your attack worked and we will bow to your wishes.").So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #19 March 22, 2004 Good for Israel!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #20 March 22, 2004 I'm glad he's dead, but I also wish he had died in his sleep. "Hey, Allah wanted him back . . . " I fear for the Israelis who will suffer the next round of suicide bombers, now that they have a new martyr to worship. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #21 March 22, 2004 QuoteI fear for the Israelis who will suffer the next round of suicide bombers, now that they have a new martyr to worship. The retard terrorists have plenty of martyrs, what difference is one more? I fear for my friends in Israel pretty much all the time, whether or not the terrorists have a new "reason" to do something. Terrorism is not rational and no amount of retaliation or non-retaliation will get them to stop. They want to kill. Period. Short of genocide of all people that don't think EXACTLY like them... I'm pretty sure we'll never see the end of it.Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #22 March 22, 2004 well he did say he wanted to die "for the cause"... so i guess he got what he wanted. and yes, i do predict a boost in their motivation, not that there was any shortage in the past 3 years. the main reason for this action was and still is to make them run and hide, instead of plan and attack. and it does work. O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #23 March 22, 2004 Yahhh!!!! One less shit head on the face of the planet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #24 March 22, 2004 >The retard terrorists have plenty of martyrs, what difference is one more? There will always be the extremists on both sides. The problem is that some poorly motivated terrorists just got better motivation. >Terrorism is not rational and no amount of retaliation or non- >retaliation will get them to stop. If that's the case, why retaliate? But I don't think your statement is true. Terrorism seems to increase whenever there's another Israeli rocket attack or other incident that gets them riled up. If what you said is true, they would just attack at random all the time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #25 March 22, 2004 QuoteThere will always be the extremists on both sides. i really resent this "both sides" statement. yes, there are right wingers that would like to see all arabs go away, and the very few who try to do something illegal are in jail. there is a big difference between political extremists and terrorism. QuoteIf that's the case, why retaliate? But I don't think your statement is true. Terrorism seems to increase whenever there's another Israeli rocket attack or other incident that gets them riled up. If what you said is true, they would just attack at random all the time. its not to retaliate. to retaliate would be to blow up a school bus or drop a bomb in the middle of the market. this was chasing the man leading a terrorist organization who has murdered hundreds. and the immediate result is their leaders hiding and looking over their shoulders. and the DO attack at random, ALL the time. lucky for us, the majority are captured before exploding (only last week, 2 explosive packs were captured at a road block, one hidden in a school boy's bag), two succeeded and killed 10 civilians in one of our ports (not too far from chemical storage facility.) O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
