cvfd1399 0 #1 March 30, 2004 Ok here I am sitting here wondering what religion I am and came across this. Tell me if I am right on, and if any of you feel the same way. I do not believe in god or any other supreme being, I am a person of science, that only believes what can be proven and put on paper. I believe in the big bang theory and all that where a bacteria created life bla.. bla.. evolution... you know how it goes. Would a person such as myself be classified as a Naturalistic evolutionist? Anyone out there that has the same thought process? Is there a church for this, I really don't know what there would be to talk about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #2 March 30, 2004 You sound like a perfect candidate for any of those 'Hollywood' churches like Scientology or something like that. __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vertifly 0 #3 March 30, 2004 Kinda sounds like Scientology: Scientology applied religious philosophy. It is the study and handling of the spirit in relationship to itself, universes and other life. Scientology means scio, knowing in the fullest sense of the word and logos, study. In itself the word means literally knowing how to know. Scientology is a "route," a way, rather than a dissertation or an assertive body of knowledge. Through its drills and studies one may find the truth for himself. The technology is therefore not expounded as something to believe, but something to do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vertifly 0 #4 March 30, 2004 Damn Ivan!!! You beat me to it!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #5 March 30, 2004 Let me go read about it I will let you know Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KawiZX900 0 #6 March 30, 2004 I think spirit has a whole hell of a lot to do with it. but I like my life to be noice and scientific, on paper and proven. like my dad says "Sjow Me the MONEY." me: but dad!" dad: "Show ME THE MONEY." kinda puts all that god shit to rest real quick. I'm all salty that I've got cavities that need fillings before my teeth rot out and daddy aitn payin the bizzillz. so god, show me the money. Accelerate hard to get them looking, then slam on the fronts and rollright beside the car, hanging the back wheel at eye level for a few seconds. Guaranteed reaction- Dave Sonsky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vertifly 0 #7 March 30, 2004 How ironic! The line "Show ME THE MONEY" from a movie by Tom Cruise. One of Hollywood's most famous practicers of Scientology. Not that I'm promoting this belief or anything. Haven't even read the book (Dianetics). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #8 March 30, 2004 Theistic evolution: The universe is about 14 billion years old. The earth's crust developed about 4.5 billion years ago. God created the first cell, and then used evolution as a tool to guide the development of each new species. The process culminated in human beings. That is more like Scientology I don't like that Naturalistic evolution: Beliefs are identical to that of theistic evolution, except that God is assumed to have played no part in the processes. Scientists assume evolution was driven by blind, purely natural forces. This is more like me. This is the belief, but what is the religion called? Got info from here http://www.religioustolerance.org/evolutio.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vertifly 0 #9 March 30, 2004 I'd say that this sounds more like Atheism, but you mentioned that God did not play a part in the process - and proceeded to use a capital G. Does God play any part of anything for you? If not, Atheist. If so, then what is God's part? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #10 March 30, 2004 Atheism is confined to one factor: the existence or non-existence of a deity. Atheism can be the positive belief that there is no deity. Atheism can be the absence of a belief that there is a deity. I believe ther is no god. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #11 March 30, 2004 Actually, as far back as Thomas Aquinas, science was cultivated by the church. Even Gregor Mendel, the father of genetics, was a monk. These tried to figure out how God did what he did. Indeed, there are many who find miracles explained in the timing. Most can be easily explained by science. I think that religion and naturalism are linked, especially in the pagan religions. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #12 March 30, 2004 "Diuretics....It's the science of matter over mind....It'll change your life, man." Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #13 March 30, 2004 Thanks guys Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KawiZX900 0 #14 March 30, 2004 QuoteHomer: Bart, what did I tell you? Bart: No talking like a grizzled 1890s prospector, consarnd it. you have no idea the humor I find in this. lightens the load fo sho. humor is a good thing. Accelerate hard to get them looking, then slam on the fronts and rollright beside the car, hanging the back wheel at eye level for a few seconds. Guaranteed reaction- Dave Sonsky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Tink1717 2 #15 March 30, 2004 You are an atheist (as am I). Welcome aboard. There is no church for atheism.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hoot 0 #16 March 30, 2004 You should check out Demon Haunted World by Carl Sagan clicky There are 2 types of people in this world: those who like Neil Diamond and those who don't. --Bill Murray Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
KawiZX900 0 #14 March 30, 2004 QuoteHomer: Bart, what did I tell you? Bart: No talking like a grizzled 1890s prospector, consarnd it. you have no idea the humor I find in this. lightens the load fo sho. humor is a good thing. Accelerate hard to get them looking, then slam on the fronts and rollright beside the car, hanging the back wheel at eye level for a few seconds. Guaranteed reaction- Dave Sonsky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #15 March 30, 2004 You are an atheist (as am I). Welcome aboard. There is no church for atheism.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoot 0 #16 March 30, 2004 You should check out Demon Haunted World by Carl Sagan clicky There are 2 types of people in this world: those who like Neil Diamond and those who don't. --Bill Murray Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites