Rdutch 0 #1 March 30, 2004 Ok we all have farmer Mcnasty stories, I myself had to get the police to recover my cutaway. What I dont understand is why would someone be so upset that someone landed in their yard, that they would run someone over. Let alone try and damage someones gear, or steal it. I dont care for people to walk through my yard if I dont know them, but I dont call the police on them if they do, or threaten them, or damage their shoes or whatever. I know they must not understand that we cant plan where our cutaways land, or we dont want to land in their yards, but wtf. There is a thought that we scare their cows, but the same people that dont want their cows scared, drive off road vehicles around them all day. Why does it piss some people off that we might land in their yards, when others are so apt, to recover our mains and also offer a ride back to the dz. I do know of some dz's where its well known that a returned canopy fetches a reward, that the locals are more than happy to chase down a cutaway and return it, maybe we could all work on public relations a little, or at least lynch the assholes that run people over for landing in their yard. Ray Small and fast what every girl dreams of! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottjaco 0 #2 March 30, 2004 Just be glad you are cool enough to be skydiving in the first place. I can't imagine what it would be like for farmer boy, looking up and seeing all the fun we are having!! Thats why they are pissed because they've are too busy tending the sheep and goats! A chopped main landing in their yard is like shoving their face in it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpinfarmer 0 #3 March 30, 2004 I've watched the world go by from the seat of a John Deere all my life and have never got sore about someone else having fun when I couldn't. That said some land owners are real assholes and should not be allowed to own land. Skydivers are not going to scare cows or ruin crops and the land owner knows it. The McNastys out there I think mostly don't like the airport being next door. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sneaky 0 #4 March 30, 2004 have a chat with Fingers at SC he will tell you his theory as too why the badass gets nasty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #5 March 30, 2004 QuoteJust be glad you are cool enough to be skydiving in the first place. I can't imagine what it would be like for farmer boy, looking up and seeing all the fun we are having!! Thats why they are pissed because they've are too busy tending the sheep and goats! A chopped main landing in their yard is like shoving their face in it! One wonders what this self satisfied post was edited from to make it less offensive? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douva 0 #6 March 30, 2004 QuoteJust be glad you are cool enough to be skydiving in the first place. I can't imagine what it would be like for farmer boy, looking up and seeing all the fun we are having!! Thats why they are pissed because they've are too busy tending the sheep and goats! A chopped main landing in their yard is like shoving their face in it! My first real exposure to skydiving was when a drop zone opened next to my cousins' farm, when I was about ten. My cousins and I kept seeing canopies in the air, so one day we got curious and took off running across soybean fields, following a group of canopies down. We followed them to a small airport next to the farm. The skydivers showed us their gear and how it worked. They explained the training process. Over the next few years, we'd occasionally come by to watch them jump, and the DZ staff would show us skydiving videos, etc. Eight years after following those first canopies down, I came back to that little drop zone to do my AFF. For the ten years that drop zone was open, my cousins, great uncle, and everyone else on the farm were more than happy to give any skydivers who landed on their property a ride back to the drop zone. I think in the end, how you respond to something like a skydiver landing on your property just comes down to what's really in your heart. Most people with farm or ranch land are really good people, but a few have a strange, misguided belief that they have the God given right to operate completely outside of society--to live as hermit. They see anybody who comes near their property as a threat to that lifestyle. They skydivers who land on their property probably threaten them more psychologically than physically. The skydivers threaten their belief that they can live lives unaffected by the rest of society. --DouvaI don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #7 March 30, 2004 QuoteI do know of some dz's where its well known that a returned canopy fetches a reward over here at my DZ (in Switz), it already happened that you could spot a main which had been cutaway, by the time you reached the place the canopy had dissapeared... A few days later (once we put an ad with a reward in the local newspaper) we suddenly received a phone call from a farmer which had found a big colourful parachute, and did not know where to return it so he decided to take it home... The DZ is approx 2-3 km from where the canopy was, and the DZ had been operating for more than 10 years... I think the best reward would be to take the guy on a tandem jump... But this is quite exceptional. Many times we had gear found and returned really quickly. One piece of gear which we never found was a helmet which got ripped off the head of a speedskydiver due to a premature deployment at approx 240mph... Lost in a field somewhere, with 2 protracks and a prodytter inside... The guy had a sore neck and his eyes blood injected for a while, but he managed to land with no big trouble...scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #8 March 30, 2004 McNasty was not as nasty as he could have been. Flyangel2 and I landed off at Skydive Houston last weekend. The guy drove up - we thought it was the DZ - but we were in the corner of his fence and looking for a way out. He was immediately on the defensive - we were VERY respectful to him and explained that we were not intending to land here but had no little choice - there were no animals to scare - he said to Mary, (Hee HEE) if you are newbies then get lessons! LMAO. Anyway it came down to the fact that mostly they want respect for thier property and land. This guy was just upset because people didn't want to walk to the gate to exit and kept making him repair his fence. All it takes is one attitude to jade the farmers that we are ALL attitude filled.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #9 March 30, 2004 Quote he said to Mary, (Hee HEE) if you are newbies then get lessons! LMAO. I've heard this one before from McNasty - "if you can't fly a parachute, you shouldn't be skydiving". They don't seem to understand that parachutes don't have engines But I can relate to them. If my neighbors kept coming into my yard and throwing trash into my yard, I would get pissed after a while, even if it's just an inconvenience. Can't say I would hit someone with my car about it, though Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdgregory 0 #10 April 5, 2004 Honestly, I have to say, we need to understand that it is THEIR property. They own it, they bought it, they have a right to prohibit trespassing. Maybe a little PR. Invite them over for wuffo parties occassionally or soemthing is in order. I for one do not like people telling me what I can and cannot do with my property. Also, if we do land on their property. Taking the time to not damage their fences or gardens, or crops or any other number of things just because we do not want to walk around would go a long way. And if we do happen to damage property, confess it and offer to help repair it, whether through physical labor or financial payment might go farther too. If we always walk up and say, "look I landed off today and hit your fence. There was some damage and I would like to help repair it." Then when they go to their feild or yard and find something damaged that they did not know about, we will not be the first one they blame. That in and of itself will help with neighbor relations. Yes, sometimes we land off and sometimes the only safe place to land is someone's property. But if we do more than just "oops, sorry, I couldn't land anywhere else without getting killed" they may say something kinder than "Next time aim for the powerlines." If we want them to respect us we had sure well better respect the property that they worked for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckbrown 0 #11 April 5, 2004 Couldn't agree more. My home DZ is located in some of the best farmland in the world (Lancaster County, PA). We go out of our way to be on great relations with the neighbors. By being extremely sensitive to the property rights of others, our jumpers are extended courtesies many times over. If someone does give you grief, it is their property... suck it up, say I'm sorry & get on another load. If I land in somebody's yard I always introduce myself, apologize and offer to pay for the inconvenience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
