Kennedy 0 #1 December 12, 2003 In response to "requests" I've seen, I just wanted to get it out there what the NRA is doing to promote safety and improve the human condition. More Police Departments Rely On NRA Crime Prevention Program Ohio Funds Gun Safety Program for Schools: Eddie Eagle GunSafe Program Selected NRA Hosts Gun Law Seminar for Attorneys NRA Trains Record Number of Police, Military Firearm Instructors NRA Announces Winners of 2003 Youth Wildlife Art Contest Hemphill Wins Unprecedented 6th NRA National Police Shooting Championship Maryland Club Hosts Women On Target Shooting Clinic NRA offers secure gun safe using patent pending biometric technology... Education and Training Hunters for the Hungry FAQ - Dollars FAQ - Hunters' Successes Law Enforcement National Firearms Museum Safety Programswitty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #2 December 12, 2003 Me? I look for terrorists to shoot. 9-10 Hrs per day....sometimes even on my day off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #3 December 12, 2003 Someone say safety? Safety's my middle name. Ok, at least it's in my job title. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captainpooby 0 #4 December 12, 2003 I carry cocked and locked. Except with my Glock, which has a "safe" action. I also promise not to shoot cats in a crowded room anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #5 December 12, 2003 Funny how no anti-gunners have popped in to say hello...witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJatLarge 0 #6 December 12, 2003 I'm not an anti-gunner, but I don't have one, nor do I feel the need to own one. But I'll say hello anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #7 December 12, 2003 QuoteWhat are YOU doing about safety? I pull. Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #8 December 12, 2003 QuoteI'm not an anti-gunner, but I don't have one, nor do I feel the need to own one. Gun owners respect that - we feel that everyone should have the freedom to make that choice for themselves. We don't want to force people to own a gun if they don't want one. But likewise, we also expect the same philosophy in return: we don't want anyone to pass laws that would force us not to be able to choose to own guns. It's all about freedom of choice! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,129 #9 December 12, 2003 QuoteQuoteI'm not an anti-gunner, but I don't have one, nor do I feel the need to own one. Gun owners respect that - we feel that everyone should have the freedom to make that choice for themselves. We don't want to force people to own a gun if they don't want one. KENNESAW!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #10 December 12, 2003 National Shooting Sports Foundation: Project ChildSafe is a nationwide program whose purpose is to promote safe firearms handling and storage practices among all firearms owners through the distribution of key safety education messages and free gun locking devices. Project ChildSafe is an expansion of the Project HomeSafe program developed by the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF). It is supported by a U.S. Department of Justice grant and is a component of Project Safe Neighborhoods, the nationwide commitment to reduce gun crime to create safer neighborhoods. DOJ selected NSSF to administer Project ChildSafe based on its experience in operating Project HomeSafe. NSSF also provides funding to Project ChildSafe. Click Here for More Info. They have already distributed about 3 million free gun locks, and have another 20 million to go! How to receive a free safety kit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #11 December 12, 2003 QuoteWe don't want to force people to own a gun if they don't want one. QuoteKENNESAW! Can you provide any evidence that any citizen of Kennesaw, Georgia, has ever been forced to possess a gun against his will? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #12 December 12, 2003 Not long ago the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) announced the launch of a national campaign to help prevent and deter the illegal "strawman" purchase of firearms. Featuring the theme of Don't Lie For The Other Guy, the campaign is a coordinated effort designed to educate the public on the consequences of purchasing a firearm for someone who legally cannot and to train firearms retailers on better identifying potential straw purchases. Click here for more info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #13 December 12, 2003 Hunters contribute more money for conservation than any other group in America! At the urging of organized sportsmen, State wildlife agencies, and the firearms and ammunition industries, Congress extended the life of an existing 10 percent tax on ammunition and firearms used for sport hunting, and earmarked the proceeds to be distributed to the States for wildlife restoration. The result was called the Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration act, better known as the Pittman-Robertson Act... Since then, numerous species have rebuilt their populations and extended their ranges far beyond what they were in the 1930's. Among them are the wild turkey, white-tailed deer, pronghorn antelope, wood duck, beaver, black bear, giant Canada goose, American elk, desert bighorn sheep, bobcat, mountain lion, and several species of predatory birds. In the more than 50 years since P-R began, over $2 billion in Federal excise taxes has been matched by more than $500 million in State funds (chiefly from hunting license fees) for wildlife restoration. More Info Here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #14 December 12, 2003 Thank a gun-owning hunter today! Hunting Facts America's 20 million hunters and 6 million target shooters annually fund more than 75% of the cost of wildlife management in the U.S. through license fees and excise taxes. In 1993, excise taxes paid by hunters and shooters totalled more than $182 million, and hunting license fees totalled more the $492 million. In 1992, the cumulative economic benefit of the hunting and shooting sports in this country - including everything from trip expenses to land leasing - was estimated to be more the 35 billion dollars and 680,000 jobs. Whitetail deer went from a population of about 500,000 in 1920 to more than 18 million today. Wood ducks went from near extinction in 1920 to the status of the most common waterfowl in the eastern U.S. today. North American Elk were down to only about 100,000 in 1920, but today number almost 900,000. Pronghorn antelope now total more than 1 million, up from less than 25,000. Nearly 4 million wild turkeys now roam 49 states. The numbers of American Bald Eagles have soared to the point that they are no longer on the endangered species list. The efforts and contributions of shooting sports enthusiasts in 1994 alone helped buy more than four million acres of wildlife habitat and lease an additional 50 million acres. Nearly 70% of of the usage of these habitat areas is for activities other than hunting, such as camping, hiking, bird-watching and nature photography. Source: Federal Cartridge Company advertisement in "North American Hunter", November 1994. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chute 0 #15 December 12, 2003 cocked, locked, and ready to rock doc. with my super soaker that is.Bottomless Beers and Blue Skies! * Brother_Brian * D.S.W.F.S.B. #2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #16 December 13, 2003 QuoteQuoteGun owners respect that - we feel that everyone should have the freedom to make that choice for themselves. We don't want to force people to own a gun if they don't want one. KENNESAW! So tell us Kallend, what penalty does a citizen of Kennesaw, GA suffer for failure to comply?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captainpooby 0 #17 December 13, 2003 QuoteQuoteQuoteI'm not an anti-gunner, but I don't have one, nor do I feel the need to own one. Gun owners respect that - we feel that everyone should have the freedom to make that choice for themselves. We don't want to force people to own a gun if they don't want one. KENNESAW! The New American magazine reminds us that March 25th marked the 16th anniversary of Kennesaw, Georgia's ordinance requiring heads of households (with certain exceptions) to keep at least one firearm in their homes. The city's population grew from around 5,000 in 1980 to 13,000 by 1996 (latest available estimate). Yet there have been only three murders: two with knives (1984 and 1987) and one with a firearm (1997). "After the law went into effect in 1982, crime against persons plummeted 74 percent compared to 1981, and fell another 45 percent in 1983 compared to 1982. And it has stayed impressively low. In addition to nearly non-existent homicide (murders have averaged a mere 0.19 per year), the annual number of armed robberies, residential burglaries, commercial burglaries, and rapes have averaged, respectively, 1.69, 31.63, 19.75, and 2.00 through 1998." With all the attention that has been heaped upon the lawful possession of firearms lately, you would think that a city that requires gun ownership would be the center of a media feeding frenzy. It isn't. The fact is I can't remember a major media outlet even mentioning Kennesaw. Can you? The reason is obvious. Kennesaw proves that the presence of firearms actually improves safety and security. This is not the message that the media want us to hear. They want us to believe that guns are evil and are the cause of violence. The facts tell a different story. What is even more interesting about Kennesaw is that the city's crime rate decreased with the simple knowledge that the entire community was armed. The bad guys didn't force the residents to prove it. Just knowing that residents were armed prompted them to move on to easier targets. Most criminals don't have a death wish. There have been two occasions in my own family when the presence of a handgun averted potential disaster. In both instances the gun was never aimed at a person and no shot was fired. Yet, in both cases the thugs bent on criminal mischief decided to take their ambitions elsewhere and my family remained safe. Only God knows what would have happened if a firearm had not been handy. Yes, there are times when gun accidents occur. There are many more accidents involving automobiles, airplanes, bathroom shower stalls and backyard swimming pools, however. And let's not forget that freedom is risky business. Freedom allows people to make mistakes recognizing that the alternative is worse. A local newspaper columnist recently said that other nations are free without possessing firearms. He fails to see the obvious fact that people who are not free to own firearms are not free. Many people live their entire lives and never know a day of real freedom. And, while I'm sure that there are those who would choose to live without freedom, there are some of us who would rather die free than live enslaved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captainpooby 0 #18 December 13, 2003 QuoteQuoteQuoteI'm not an anti-gunner, but I don't have one, nor do I feel the need to own one. Gun owners respect that - we feel that everyone should have the freedom to make that choice for themselves. We don't want to force people to own a gun if they don't want one. KENNESAW! Try google before you claim anything like the people are forced to wn guns. Sheesh, it aint hard. By Jonathan Hamilton and David Burch Marietta Daily Journal Staff Writers http://www.mdjonline.com/StoryDetail.cfm?id=10017128&Section=Home%20Page 3-14-1 KENNESAW, Ga - Several Kennesaw officials attribute a drop in crime in the city over the past two decades to a law that requires residents to have a gun in the house. In 1982, the Kennesaw City Council unanimously passed a law requiring heads of households to own at least one firearm with ammunition. The ordinance states the gun law is needed to "protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants." Then-councilman J.O. Stephenson said after the ordinance was passed, everyone "went crazy." "People all over the country said there would be shootings in the street and violence in homes," he said. "Of course, that wasn't the case." In fact, according to Stephenson, it caused the crime rate in the city to plunge. Kennesaw Historical Society president Robert Jones said following the law's passage, the crime rate dropped 89 percent in the city, compared to the modest 10 percent drop statewide. "It did drop after it was passed," he said. "After it initially dropped, it has stayed at the same low level for the past 16 years." Mayor Leonard Church was not in office when the law was passed, but he said he is a staunch supporter of it. "You can't argue with the fact that Kennesaw has the lowest crime rate of any city our size in the country," said Church, who owns a denture-making company in Kennesaw. The author of the ordinance, local attorney Fred Bentley Sr., attributes at least some of the decrease in crime to the bill. "I am definitely in favor of what we did," he said. "It may not be totally responsible for the decrease, [but] it is a part." Although he is pleased with the outcome, Bentley said he was originally opposed to drafting the law. "I didn't think it could be written in a constitutional fashion," he said. "Obviously, it was constitutional, because the American Civil Liberties Union challenged it in court and we won." Jones said the ACLU challenged the law in a federal court just after it was passed. In response, the city added a clause adding conscientious objectors to the list of those exempt. Although the law is now being credited with a drop in crime, Jones said that was not the law's original purpose. He also pointed out that Kennesaw did not have a big problem with crime before. "The crime rate wasn't that high to start with. It was 11 burglaries per 1,000 residents in 1981," he said. According to the Kennesaw Police Department, the city's most recent crime statistics show 243 property crimes per 100,000 residents in 1998, or .243 per 1,000. The city's crime rate continues to be far below other metro Atlanta city's with similar populations, like Decatur. In 1998, Decatur recorded 4,049 property crimes per 100,000 residents. Jones said one motivation for the council passing the ordinance had to do with publicity. "It was done in response to a law passed by Morton Grove, Ill., outlawing gun ownership within the city limits," he said. "Several council members were upset Morton Grove had gotten a lot of attention with their ordinance so they decided to top them. "They figured the gun ownership ordinance would knock that city right off the front pages. They were right." Jones said the ensuing publicity surrounding the law has given Kennesaw worldwide name recognition. "I have been to Australia and Europe and when I tell people I am from Kennesaw they recognize the name as the place that requires everyone to own a gun," he said. But Stephenson said the issue was not publicity-driven but issue-driven. "We believed in the right of people to own guns," he said. Jones said he has sold 550 copies of a 1994 book about the first-of-its-kind law, "The Law Heard 'Round the World." He said the law in its final form has many loopholes, so not everyone is required to own a gun. "There are many outs," he said. "When you look at it, almost anyone could fit into one of the exempted groups." Kennesaw Police Chief Dwaine Wilson said no one has ever been prosecuted under the ordinance. Among those exempt are residents "who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine." Others exempt include the physically and mentally disabled, paupers and those convicted of a felony. The law contains no clause addressing punishment for violating the law. If convicted, City Clerk Diane Coker said punishment would be determined by the general penalty clause of the Kennesaw Code Ordinance - probably a fine of about $100. Jones said the unusual law has not deterred anyone from moving to Kennesaw. "Our population has increased just like everyone's in Georgia in the past 20 years," he said. "The law really hasn't done any harm to the city's growth." The city's population in 1998 was recorded at 14,493 - a sharp increase over the 8,936 residents recorded in the 1990 census. Cobb Chamber of Commerce president Bill Cooper said odd laws are typically not counted as strike against a city when a business is looking to relocate. "These laws don't have laws don't have an impact on a company's decision to move to Cobb County," Cooper said. "Many communities have strange laws that are out of date. Businesses look at many factors when relocating, such as quality of life, education, infrastructure and available workforce." Bentley said the law actually may have helped business development. "Kennesaw is home to more manufacturing businesses than any other Cobb city," he said. "Companies have said they want to be located in conservative areas." And Kennesaw isn't the only city in Cobb with an unusual law on the books. According to Jeff Koon, who runs a Web site specializing in funny laws, Dumblaws.com, Acworth has a ordinance requiring residents to own a rake. In Marietta, it is illegal to spit from a car or a bus, but perfectly legal to spit from a truck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,129 #19 December 13, 2003 QuoteA local newspaper columnist recently said that other nations are free without possessing firearms. He fails to see the obvious fact that people who are not free to own firearms are not free. Many people live their entire lives and never know a day of real freedom. And, while I'm sure that there are those who would choose to live without freedom, there are some of us who would rather die free than live enslaved. I like building large model rockets. In the panic reaction over 9/11 large model rocket motors have become essentially unavailable (somewhat harder to obtain than a handgun, for example). Is a person who is not free to possess a large model rocket really free? I like building R/C model aircraft. Since 9/11 it has become illegal to put a GPS into a model aircraft. Is a person who is not free to possess a GPS in a model aircraft really free? Some people like smoking pot in the privacy of their home (I am not one of them). This is illegal. Is someone who is not free to possess pot really free? I could continue. The essential point is that the USA is far from being a free society in many respects. You are brainwashed from childhood into thinking you live in a free country, but in fact it is highly restrictive. Citizens of the Netherlands enjoy many freedoms that we don't. We enjoy one that they don't - easy legal gun ownership.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captainpooby 0 #20 December 13, 2003 QuoteQuoteA local newspaper columnist recently said that other nations are free without possessing firearms. He fails to see the obvious fact that people who are not free to own firearms are not free. Many people live their entire lives and never know a day of real freedom. And, while I'm sure that there are those who would choose to live without freedom, there are some of us who would rather die free than live enslaved. I like building large model rockets. In the panic reaction over 9/11 large model rocket motors have become essentially unavailable (somewhat harder to obtain than a handgun, for example). Is a person who is not free to possess a large model rocket really free? I like building R/C model aircraft. Since 9/11 it has become illegal to put a GPS into a model aircraft. Is a person who is not free to possess a GPS in a model aircraft really free? Some people like smoking pot in the privacy of their home (I am not one of them). This is illegal. Is someone who is not free to possess pot really free? I could continue. The essential point is that the USA is far from being a free society in many respects. You are brainwashed from childhood into thinking you live in a free country, but in fact it is highly restrictive. Citizens of the Netherlands enjoy many freedoms that we don't. We enjoy one that they don't - easy legal gun ownership. You seem to be happy with the chains. I, personally, am not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #21 December 13, 2003 Do I smell a "safety meeting" going on here? _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #22 December 13, 2003 I find it absolutely HILARIOUS that my address used to fall under the city limits of Kenesaw, GA. Yes....I was WELL within limits of the city ordinance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasterfaller 0 #23 December 13, 2003 I attend regular safety meetings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoostedXT 0 #24 December 13, 2003 Wearing a condom.For long as you live and high you fly and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry and all that you touch and all that you see is all your life will ever be. Pedro Offers you his Protection. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #25 December 13, 2003 Does that smell like cordite, sulfur, and other fun substances? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
