Nightingale 0 #26 April 13, 2004 I love school. I'm looking forward to it. I know its going to be hard, but it will be rewarding at the same time. I like classes that make me think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #27 April 13, 2004 I'm not going to school anymore. I may already be educated beyond my intelligence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #28 April 13, 2004 CONGRATULATIONS!!! Just don't go work for the ACLU when you finish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #29 April 13, 2004 Quote I'm not going to school anymore. I may already be educated beyond my intelligence. Wow, me too! Kris, OTOH, is brilliant...so until she gets a PhD in nuclear physics, I don't think she'll even come close to being "edimecated" to her capacity. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #30 April 13, 2004 Congratulations...Next time I'm in trouble with the law, I know who to call....Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #31 April 13, 2004 I don't know if I am educated enough yet. I just know that I'm fed up with school, and the only one I hope to be in the future is a BMF. 19 years is enough... p.s. My best friend has over 35 years of school. He's got a BS and a BA, two MA's (I told him that makes him a "MAMA"), a Ph.D., a JD and will hve his LLM in a couple of months. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #32 April 13, 2004 I just got my scholarship letter from Chapman... They're offering me a 40% tuition scholarship!!!! I just about fainted. That's like $10,800 a year. OMG OMG OMG.... Now, I'm not sure what to do... I've been informed through secure channels (read: my uncle knows the dean of Loyola) that I'm going to get accepted to Loyola, but probably won't get a scholarship, since I fall right in the middle of what they're looking for. So.... I can go to a Tier 2 school and pay full price (around $19,000 per year for part time for four and a half years... totalling $85,500) or a Tier 3 school with a very good reputation for three years full time and pay $48,600. I'm VERY confused right now... anyone got any advice??????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviatrr 0 #33 April 13, 2004 Congrats! Quoteright now, I've just got a BA. As of May 9, I'll also have an MA in education. And in four years... I'll have a JD too. After another couple of degrees, you'll have the whole alphabet.. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyyhi 0 #34 April 13, 2004 YAY Kris. . .Congratulations to you. I am very proud of you, and you get to stay here and jump with us. . .course we probably will only see you during quarter breaks but hey, at least we know you will be here. . .________________________________________ Take risks not to escape life… but to prevent life from escaping. ~ A bumper sticker at the DZ FGF #6 Darcy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paige 0 #35 April 13, 2004 CONGRATS. Prepare for the worst/best year of your life! I have an incredibly brilliant cousin who went to Harvard and graduated with honors. He's at Georgia for law school and said it is easily the hardest thing he has ever done. One tip he told me to pass on to you: Don't procrastinate, TIME MANAGEMENT is key! Good luck chica! I know you'll kick the snot out of those books and impress everyone!Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #36 April 13, 2004 Chapman's law school has been in business less than ten years. Because of that, there is no real reputation regarding the quality of Chapman graduates. They were the first law school in Orange County to get ABA approval. That was what they were looking for. I'd been in frequent communication with Dean Lindsay and Professor Munch back in 1996-1997. They were realy excited about the prospective ABA (they were not, at the time, ABA accredited). Then they got it, and in short order Western State got ABA accredited and Whittier Law School relocated to Orange County. So, Chapman faced some stiff competition that they did not expect, and lost its niche. Still, Chapman students pass the Bar exam. That is certainly important. Of the first-time takers, 57 percent passed in July 2003, which is comparable to Southwestern, and much better than Western State and Whittier. I'd like to say, "LOYOLA ALL THE WAY" since it's my alma mater. But, if you get the scholarship, that certainly implicates things. But, Loyola also offers scholarships to the great students (not me - a center mass dweller). Given your proclivity for brilliance, you may get that. Another factor to consider is commute time. I don't know where you live, but travel time will affect you. While Chapman is in a nice place (walkign distance from Old Town Orange) you have the Orange Crush to deal with. Or, you have downtown LA traffic to deal with (especially at night - it sucks). So you'd have to consider travel, work and living. 2 hours on the road is tough to do everyday. Trust me, I did it every day for 5 years. SO, you've got a decision. But, if you go to Loyola, let me know and I'll see if I've got soem old outlines still with me. Edited to add: consider yourself fortunate. In 2007, the scope of the Bar Exam will change. WHile the corporations part will also include agency and other business entities, you will also be tested on California Civil Procedure and California Evidence in addition to the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and Evidence. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #37 April 13, 2004 Well, I live about ten minutes away from Chapman, so traffic is a non-issue there. However... I work ten minutes from Loyola, and since the Loyola program is part time, I would continue to work... however, I'd still have to fight the morning traffic to get to work. The questions I've been asking myself: Do I want 4.5 years of hell (loyola), or 3 (chapman)? Do I want to risk going to a law school that hasn't proven itself yet, even though the university itself has a good reputation? Is the 40% scholarship worth it? Do I want to try to work and go to school at the same time, even part time? sigh... I just don't know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clownburner 0 #38 April 13, 2004 One thing to consider when looking at two schools where one is MUCH less expensive: if the quality of the education is similar, does the prestige of the school help you work in the field or speciality you intend to pursue? If you're going to work for a hot-dog corporate law firm, they might be a lot more concerned about the 'tier' of your law school than if you wanted to work in a specialty area that was less concerned with prestige and more with your personal capability. If you don't think that'll matter much, and all else is equal, I'd go to the cheaper one - in the long run, $40k less in student loans might make the difference between being able to take a job you really want, or taking a job that pays more but will be unsatisfying. YMMV. 7CP#1 | BTR#2 | Payaso en fuego Rodriguez "I want hot chicks in my boobies!"- McBeth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #39 April 13, 2004 CONGRATS TO YOU!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #40 April 13, 2004 YMMV???? wuzzat mean? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clownburner 0 #41 April 13, 2004 YMMV: "Your mileage may vary." 7CP#1 | BTR#2 | Payaso en fuego Rodriguez "I want hot chicks in my boobies!"- McBeth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vertifly 0 #42 April 13, 2004 QuoteThe questions I've been asking myself: Do I want 4.5 years of hell (loyola), or 3 (chapman)? Do I want to risk going to a law school that hasn't proven itself yet, even though the university itself has a good reputation? Is the 40% scholarship worth it? Do I want to try to work and go to school at the same time, even part time? My guess is that you'll know how to figure it out on your own. Here is an idea that may help. Try answering the questions regardless of school attributes. List your values on on a seperate piece of paper than the schools. What is important to you while in Law School over the next 3 to 5 years?.... 1.having spending money during law school, 2.the prestige of a better university and what that may provide 3.location 4.even skydiving if it is important, etc. ? etc. etc. Answer as many questions, to yourself, about the things important to you - particularly over the next few years. Make a list of them. After that, associate these values with the different schools. Put them in order of importance to you personally. It's an easy way to sort out your priorities from a distant perspective. After that, place each college name next to the ones that best fulfill that attribute/value. This may provide you with an arial view of your decision. And we all know that arial views are the best ones. Good luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #43 April 13, 2004 It sounds like your deal with Chapman v. Loyola may actually be a wash. You'll keep your job during school with Loyola, right? I would HIGHLY recommend not even THINKING about employment if you are a first year day student. SO, you may need a loan for living expenses. I hate decisions like that... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Snowwhite 0 #44 April 13, 2004 QuoteI just got a letter from Chapman Law School here in California, which is my second choice. So, regardless of what happens with Loyola Law (which is my first choice who I haven't heard back from yet), I am staying right here in bright, sunny, southern California! My son graduated from Loyola a couple of years ago. International Law. I am sure that he would love to talk to you if you go there. He got to live in the Hancock building on the 84th floor for a short period while he was going to school. Interned in China. He can tell which profs were great.skydiveTaylorville.org freefallbeth@yahoo.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nightingale 0 #45 April 14, 2004 I was going to go to Loyola's night program, which is made for people who are working. However, I still think it'll be really, really hard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nightingale 0 #46 April 14, 2004 Quote Kris, OTOH, is brilliant...so until she gets a PhD in nuclear physics, I don't think she'll even come close to being "edimecated" to her capacity. Ciels- Michele Michele- you're forgetting one thing.... I suck at math. I can't even balance my damn checkbook! We all have things we're good at, and for me, math isn't one of them. so somehow, I don't think nuclear physics is gonna work... but thank you much for the compliment Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
lawrocket 3 #43 April 13, 2004 It sounds like your deal with Chapman v. Loyola may actually be a wash. You'll keep your job during school with Loyola, right? I would HIGHLY recommend not even THINKING about employment if you are a first year day student. SO, you may need a loan for living expenses. I hate decisions like that... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowwhite 0 #44 April 13, 2004 QuoteI just got a letter from Chapman Law School here in California, which is my second choice. So, regardless of what happens with Loyola Law (which is my first choice who I haven't heard back from yet), I am staying right here in bright, sunny, southern California! My son graduated from Loyola a couple of years ago. International Law. I am sure that he would love to talk to you if you go there. He got to live in the Hancock building on the 84th floor for a short period while he was going to school. Interned in China. He can tell which profs were great.skydiveTaylorville.org freefallbeth@yahoo.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nightingale 0 #45 April 14, 2004 I was going to go to Loyola's night program, which is made for people who are working. However, I still think it'll be really, really hard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nightingale 0 #46 April 14, 2004 Quote Kris, OTOH, is brilliant...so until she gets a PhD in nuclear physics, I don't think she'll even come close to being "edimecated" to her capacity. Ciels- Michele Michele- you're forgetting one thing.... I suck at math. I can't even balance my damn checkbook! We all have things we're good at, and for me, math isn't one of them. so somehow, I don't think nuclear physics is gonna work... but thank you much for the compliment Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Nightingale 0 #45 April 14, 2004 I was going to go to Loyola's night program, which is made for people who are working. However, I still think it'll be really, really hard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #46 April 14, 2004 Quote Kris, OTOH, is brilliant...so until she gets a PhD in nuclear physics, I don't think she'll even come close to being "edimecated" to her capacity. Ciels- Michele Michele- you're forgetting one thing.... I suck at math. I can't even balance my damn checkbook! We all have things we're good at, and for me, math isn't one of them. so somehow, I don't think nuclear physics is gonna work... but thank you much for the compliment Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
