AggieDave 6 #1 April 28, 2004 Yup, no joke, this thing is one sexy fast car. Too bad it'll never make it to production. Clicky--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 April 28, 2004 Know what? BillVon would be proud of me for wanting to get a hybrid car...now if only they'd make one that has the torque and power my truck has, in the same size as my truck, I'd want one of those. The gas milage sucks right now, but its nice to tow stuff, its hard to get stuck and its fun to drive. Nevermind it looks good too!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #3 April 28, 2004 QuoteKnow what? BillVon would be proud of me for wanting to get a hybrid car...now if only they'd make one that has the torque and power my truck has, in the same size as my truck, I'd want one of those. The gas milage sucks right now, but its nice to tow stuff, its hard to get stuck and its fun to drive. Nevermind it looks good too! Don't write it off forever. Honda has a Hybrid-Accord coming to market this fall. It's simply a matter of time before alternative fuel technology reaches the performance levels that the exotic market will accept. Though, I doubt it will be within the next five years.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #4 April 28, 2004 I'm really wondering when they'll have the power to be in real trucks, not some POS 1/4 ton or smaller.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrhoop 0 #5 April 28, 2004 My POS 1/4 or less will go through lots of mud. My 3/4 chevy needs work, but its only 2wd. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #6 April 28, 2004 Damn, I knew that'd get under someone's skin. I was really refering to the little toyatos and such that will surely be the first hybrids. I'm seen some seriously hard-core S-10s and such.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VivaHeadDown 0 #7 April 28, 2004 It only boasted 31 miles to the gallon. That's not worth the hassle of a hybrid. Don't Confuse Me With My Own Words Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #8 April 28, 2004 For 0-60 in 4 seconds, though...that'd good gas milage.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #9 April 28, 2004 QuoteIt only boasted 31 miles to the gallon. That's not worth the hassle of a hybrid. heck i get that in my hyundai elantra.. most of the time if it's only highway i get around 35mpg.... but it won't do 4 sec 0-60 though.... but it is pretty quick... ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #10 April 28, 2004 I'm relieved you haven't fallen under the thrall of the Smart cars that are about to be unleashed on an unsuspecting US public. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/3660685.stm-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #11 April 28, 2004 31mpg sucks when you have to pay $7 a gallon as we do in the UK. We all laughed when we saw a car add stating it had excellent gas consumption at 32mpg... in the uk 60+ is good, 90+ is great, 32 sucks ass. My 3ltr supra can make 32 on the motorway and that bloody well drinks the fuel like it personally has shares in the middle east. We laughed again when we saw people complaining on the news that the price of gas had just risen above $2 a gallon and saying they would stop driving if it got to $2.5 a gallon... then we all cried and flew home to fill up on $7 gas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver30960 0 #12 April 28, 2004 90 mpg? Is that right? Or do you mean 90kmpg? Or would we have to convert to km/L? Oh, I feel like I'm back in engineering classes... how many drams to a peck in a bushel of hectares? I will now play the part of the ASSHOLE Yankee and drop all vestiges of PC: dude, gas needs to be cheap here because compared to Europe everything here is so damn SPREAD OUT! When I look at a map of Europe I see all these cool countries and cultures and cities that I want to experience, all within a stone's throw of one another. Just a quick hop over the Channel and there you are. Here, when I want to jump out of an airplane, visit family, or go to a boogie I have to hump me and my gear over countless states, time zones, and mountain ranges. Hell, I don't even have it as bad as some. Folks in the Southwest US have to drive for a year and a half just to get to a constant supply of water... right AggieDave? Elvisio "spacious skies, amber waves of grain, purple mountain majesty, and fruited plains are all good, but ALL in the same car ride?" Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedy 0 #13 April 28, 2004 Why do Americans quote fuel consumption in miles per gallon anyway? It would make more sense if they quoted it in gallons per hour. Every time I ask an American how far is so an so from here, they answer , oh that's only 2 hours from here. Dave Fallschirmsport Marl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #14 April 28, 2004 We give time instead of distance because distance is quite deceiving. Its 300 Miles to Las Vegas from my former hometown of Riverside. its 68 miles to Los Angeles from Riverside. at 7 AM, the drive time is about equal. I remember driving to work, and pulling into the parking lot, looking at the clock and thinking "damn! I could've been in Vegas by now!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #15 April 28, 2004 yup - mpg. See somthing like this: http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/nav?page=car.stories.detail&storyId=582346 90mpg cars are not particularly common yet, but exist non the less. City cars on sale now do not sell well against their competition unless they can claim 50 odd miles/gallon. Yes miles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brains 2 #16 April 28, 2004 QuoteYup, no joke, this thing is one sexy fast car. Too bad it'll never make it to production. Clicky You get the car, and since you already have one, i'll take the model standing next to it. That way your so won't get jealous or anything. I'm here to help you out man. Never look down on someone, unless they are going down on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #17 April 28, 2004 How 'bout this beauty of a car? ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #18 April 28, 2004 QuoteI'm really wondering when they'll have the power to be in real trucks, not some POS 1/4 ton or smaller. They're working on it... Silverado 1/2 and 3/4 ton Ram Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,121 #19 April 28, 2004 >Why do Americans quote fuel consumption in miles per gallon anyway? Cause most people measure distance in kilometers or miles, not time. People have fixed distances to drive to work, to the DZ etc, but the time can vary all over the place. Besides, I get much better gas mileage when I'm creeping along at 10mph on the 15 than doing 85 driving up to Perris. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,121 #20 April 28, 2004 >It only boasted 31 miles to the gallon. That's not worth the hassle of a hybrid. What hassle? The 1991 Testarossa does 0-60 in 6.2 seconds and gets 15mpg. Better performance, better gas mileage sounds like an overall win. Plus you get the usual advantages of a hybrid (instant start, longer engine life.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #21 April 28, 2004 Just out of interest, Bill, are you guys getting into biodiesel over there yet? I just noticed my TDi unit will run on the stuff unmodified. All I have to do now is find a place that sells the stuff.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,121 #22 April 28, 2004 >Just out of interest, Bill, are you guys getting into biodiesel over there yet? Yep. We have a bunch of stations selling B20. No one's selling B100 out of a pump yet, which is too bad. >I just noticed my TDi unit will run on the stuff unmodified. True biodiesel will run in any diesel engine. But diesel cars need some moderate modification to run on plain vegetable oil (have to keep the oil hot.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #23 April 28, 2004 Quote>Just out of interest, Bill, are you guys getting into biodiesel over there yet? Yep. We have a bunch of stations selling B20. No one's selling B100 out of a pump yet, which is too bad. >I just noticed my TDi unit will run on the stuff unmodified. True biodiesel will run in any diesel engine. But diesel cars need some moderate modification to run on plain vegetable oil (have to keep the oil hot.) There was a guy in Colorado that converted a truck to Biodiesel. Did some marathon drive with it. Would stop at resturaunts and collected all the used oils. I'll see if I can find a link to it. Was interesting. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #24 April 28, 2004 All you have to do to run a desel off vegetable oil (even used oil from friers) is to add about a tea-spoon of a thinning agent/gallon to it (I forget the specific chemical). Popular UK TV program called Top Gear did some tests and could run any diesel off the stuff and it cost peanuts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,121 #25 April 28, 2004 >All you have to do to run a desel off vegetable oil (even used oil > from friers) is to add about a tea-spoon of a thinning agent/gallon > to it (I forget the specific chemical). You have three options there. One is to run on pure oil; you need heaters and whatnot. The second is an oil/kerosene mix that solves the gelling problem, but has a few other problems, like hard starts in cold weather. A 90% oil/10% kero mixture is a good emergency fuel. The third is the 'real' way, which is to add some sodium methoxide to the oil. (You can make sodium methoxide with lye and methanol.) That's tricky as sodium methoxide is incredibly toxic, and you get some glycerin precipitating out afterwards that you can't use as fuel (although it makes good soap.) Side note - anyone who saw "fight club" saw people making biodiesel out of human fat. They actually used the glycerin to make the soap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
