Base jump in the news

[cderham 0]

Found this this morning, I know it should be in the Base forum but thought it would get more exposure here.

Chris


Man Jumps Off Salt Lake City Building
Fri Apr 30, 6:26 PM ET Add Strange News - AP to My Yahoo!



SALT LAKE CITY — Police ticketed a man who parachuted off a downtown building but got tangled on a pole, leaving him suspended above the street.


Carson Douglas Klein made the jump Thursday with two other men off the roof of the 27-story American Towers condominiums. His friends descended safely and fled, but Klein's parachute got caught on a light pole, leaving him hanging about 15 feet above the pavement.


Guards at the building helped Klein down and detained him.


Klein, 27, was ticketed for trespassing and faces up to six months in jail and a $1,000 fine if convicted, Detective Kevin Joiner said.


Joiner said the thrill-seekers known as "base jumpers" manage to illegally parachute off Salt Lake City's tall buildings about once or twice a year.

[BASE813 0]

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thrill-seekers known as "base jumpers"

whatever..............

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and faces up to six months in jail and a $1,000 fine

for what?...............

harsh.........

we are just trying to have fun without hurting anyone or anything......

[PhreeZone 20]

>?for what?...............

Trespassing. Probally did'nt have permission to be on the roof of the building. Think of it this way, how would you feel as a landowner to have someone walking all over your building with out permission.

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[BASE813 0]

trespassin is not a criminal offence?

[dbattman 0]

Sure, lock him up for six months. Just be sure to let a violent felon out early to make room.

I've always thought 'house arrest' more appropriate for non-violent/non-property crimes (property meaning theft, burglary, etc.).

Just my $0.02.

[lawrocket 3]

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trespassin is not a criminal offence?

Sure it is, if defined as such. What if the act of BASE is against the law and you entered at night? If true, in most places, this would constitute a burglary, since it was unauthorized entry into a dwelling with intent to commit a crime.

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[mjosparky 4]

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trespassin is not a criminal offence?

Almost all base jumping off buildings in the US involves one or more criminal act. If you don't feel it is a crime why do base jumpers sneak in at night and run like hell when they land? If you want to dance you gotta pay the band.
Sparky

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[TomAiello 26]

Remember that 813 is in the UK, where the rules, not to mention the definition of "criminal offense" may be different.

A while back we had a very confusing discussion about felony v. misdemeanor, a distinction which apparently doesn't exist in some places.

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[Skymonkey13 0]

That story even made it to the Kansas City newspaper.

[leroydb 0]

thatsucks ass, i am disliking this C.Y.A. (cover your @$$ ) society that we are turing into. Damn people, a lawsuit is not the lottery!!!

Leroy


..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio...

[BASE813 0]

thanks Tom. Yes in the UK tresspass is obviously different then - which is why I asked - tresspass in the UK is a civil offence and not a criminal offence. In fact it only becomes criminal when some sort of intent or agression is shown - (this may be slightly inaccurate someone may like to correct the details here) - but generally tresspass is not something the police here in the UK will do you for.

The reason I questioned is that "faces prison" to me seemed harsh - and I would like to know exactly what they would send the jumper to prison for? surely not tresspass? - but I guess the US has some fucked up rules and regulations!

............and for the other response - why do we do it late at night and run away? - well hey I dont want to be noticed by anyone and would like easily accessable objects kept open, I dont want people that dont understand what I am doing to shut down objects by raising the security - this is the only reason to me - seeing that technically BASE is not an illegal act!!

[lawrocket 3]

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Remember that 813 is in the UK, where the rules, not to mention the definition of "criminal offense" may be different.

A while back we had a very confusing discussion about felony v. misdemeanor, a distinction which apparently doesn't exist in some places.

Thank you for conditioning my mind, Tom! I hadn't realized the England aspect.

I should trust all BASE guys to know about "trespass" and "unauthorized air delivery"

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[Faber 0]

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I hadn't realized the England aspect.

or should we say the US aspect???most i know the rules of,are like 813 desicibes.

Im whith Mac here,tresspassing shouldnt give jail,stealing andhurting people should give prisson..

Yes US jumpers are hardcore,they face this on each jump,that suck a$$ and is to considder it you come from over the pond to join in at the US objects..

just to note that trasspassing in DK probaly max will give a fine at max 100$,however BASE is so realitiv new here that most times you should be abel to talk you out of trouble(only know this from other DK jumpers,as they told me,the talk thing).

the worst thing by a BASE jump to me is when people see it but dont know what it is,they think some one makes a suiside.i dont think that part is cool.

mac,mail me your summer plans,im planing to visit some freinds abit south of our location(slider off place ofcourse),i think of a loong weekend or so...

Stay safe
Stefan Faber

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

Seems to me that a lot of this issue is property rights, and if a building owner does not wish to have the negative press of someone splatting after a failed base jump from their property, I can see their side of it.

I have never understood why I haven't heard of any DZO buying some property for a tower to be erected so people could do BASE jumps off of it. Once erected, there would be no fuel costs, just maintenance and the cost of operating a light. The type of tower could be specially designed to be suitable for BASE jumping, and it would not be some major microwave-emitting thing that heats up fillings (or so I'm told they do).

How about it? Are there any LEGITIMATE BASE structures around? Isn't there money in that? Build a tower once, have people jumping off it for decades. Haul in the cash with very little overhead.
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[PhreeZone 20]

Starting price for a really nice 500+ tower is pricey. Its way more then just sitting there and putting it together like an erector set. You have to do ground surveys, prep work, foundation work, FAA clearence, certified welders to put it together... I once heard figures of 30k for a 500 foot tower and 75k+ for a 1000 foot with elevator. Not to mention you can't put it near an airport so now there is the land purchase cost too.

Know any DZO's that have 100k laying around for a tower that people are going to bitch at paying to jump and try to sneak on for free? Try and guess an ROI on that

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[PhillyKev 0]

Sounds a lot cheaper than a plane.

[PhreeZone 20]

Get a Cessna for 35k and fly tandems around.. lots more profit

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[Faber 0]

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I have never understood why I haven't heard of any DZO buying some property for a tower to be erected so people could do BASE jumps off of it.

a tower at minimum200ft so all or most can freefall it would be really precy,who should pay for that?
As a BASE jumper im not sure i would pay too much for a legal object(yes i sure pay others if i need to,and ofcours if i ever will go to one of thouse big events theres arround).

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Are there any LEGITIMATE BASE structures around?

'depends how you define that.. yes there are Buildings ang other stuff that can be jumped legal,but most at events(your forced to take place in such an event then).not all of us does like that

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Isn't there money in that?

No if there are its only to pay the costs,thats the way it should be...

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Haul in the cash with very little overhead

you think ill pay for your tower,if i easily can find a free one??...

just my thourght

Stay safe
Stefan Faber

[3ringheathen 0]

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............and for the other response - why do we do it late at night and run away?

Often times, night is simply more practical, even if you have permission.

The winds tend to be much calmer, and there's very little traffic or pedestrians to worry about.

Most likely I'd still run away because historically, the knee jerk reaction of authorities is to arrest you and charge you with whatever they can think of.

So hypothetically, I've got permission to be on the 30th floor of a building in the middle of the city. I jump late at night and get busted.
Trespassing? No, I had permission.
Wreckless endangerment? I'd almost certainly be found not guilty, but it's much easier to make a quick exit and avoid the hassle!

-Josh

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[cloudseeker2001 0]

I guess the US has some fucked up rules and regulations!

Yep, and it is getting worse every year. Law on top of law and they cannot even enforce the laws we already have.

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others mean and rueful of the western dream"

[cloudseeker2001 0]

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Seems to me that a lot of this issue is property rights, and if a building owner does not wish to have the negative press of someone splatting after a failed base jump from their property, I can see their side of it.

I have never understood why I haven't heard of any DZO buying some property for a tower to be erected so people could do BASE jumps off of it. Once erected, there would be no fuel costs, just maintenance and the cost of operating a light. The type of tower could be specially designed to be suitable for BASE jumping, and it would not be some major microwave-emitting thing that heats up fillings (or so I'm told they do).

How about it? Are there any LEGITIMATE BASE structures around? Isn't there money in that? Build a tower once, have people jumping off it for decades. Haul in the cash with very little overhead.
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Houston used to have a bungee tower that was about 200ft tall and the city made them shut it down. I think the city actually bought them out. This was about 10 years ago. It was cool and 4 people could jump at once. I have some pics somewhere.

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others mean and rueful of the western dream"

[nbblood 0]

Bwahahahaha!!!!

I know that guy!! Can't wait to see him again.

LMAO!

Blues,
Nathan

Blues,
Nathan

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[LouYoung 0]

I'll best the worst part about building a "dedicated" BASE structure is that eventually someone will decide that they can make money with it in other ways.

Own a canyon? Build a bridge for BASE. Eventually you'll figure out that you an drive cars across it. Build a tower? You can bolt some antennas to it and make money that way.

Build a BASE-able structure for antennas and people will jump off it. Build a BASE-able structure for jumping and people will lease antenna space.

[catfishhunter 2]

LMAO I wonder if he has seen this yet :) Seen him at the DZ yesterday and all he knew was it made the local paper. LMAO!!! Wonder what he will think when he finds out it went nationwide! DOH! Oh and from what I heard the story isn't completly accurate but will let him fix it if he wants. but it is pretty funny

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