wildblue 7 #1 May 14, 2004 Got this in my inbox. From the "to" address, I think they harvested my email address from the Classifieds here maybe? Not sure. Dear Skydiver, In the past we have been in touch for the Vigil AAD. Now that my 'partner' Jo Smolders publishes an official document on the USPA website where he connects my name with the recent troubles that the Vigil has, I must inform you about the real situation. I worked for more than 5 years on this project and invested way over 150.000$ in it. The Vigil was my idea, from the design, the concept, to the name. I was promised half of everything that the Vigil concerns, and never saw a dime of it. Since January 2004 I'm not involved in the Vigil project any more. I NEVER received a decent explanation regarding the numerous malfunctions. Disregarding my insistence as a skydiver, as an instructor, as a rigger and as a partner, I never got any answer on my questions regarding the safety of the product from Mr. Smolders. I told him that under the present circumstances the lives of the skydivers are endangered. Anyway, due to this situation, I have been forced to consider possible alternatives. I'm sure that we'll meet again on a DZ sometime. If you have any questions, please feel free to call me at +32 (0)485 86 87 88 or bookmark my personal email address: karel.goorts@skynet.be. Blue skies, Karel Goortsit's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #2 May 14, 2004 Someone else got the same mail - crosspost:http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1077243;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #3 May 14, 2004 I never look at my spam folder in yahell, so never saw if I got it. I had exchanged emails with AAD before. Did he ask you for you bank info so he could transfer his 10 million $ out of belgium? lolRemster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #4 May 14, 2004 QuoteDid he ask you for you bank info so he could transfer his 10 million $ out of belgium? lol No, because if he did, I would have strung him along for a few months and gotten some embarassing pictures out of him, possibly even $20. http://www.419eater.comit's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #5 May 14, 2004 Ok, so I'm not the only one that had recieved this. Pretty annoying, really. Wow, talk about squared away marketing. VERY uncool!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #6 May 14, 2004 Yep, I got it also. I was, for a few minutes, wondering if I actually met "karen." until I checked my DZ email accoun tand saw the same spam...I figure she got the address form here somehow and bulk spammed us. guess she wants her 150,000 backMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricaH 0 #7 May 14, 2004 I've never given my dz.com e-mail out to anyone other than friends - or responding to an individual's ad for somethign I want to purchase. I got this e-mail as well. it almost looks like they got the anyone's e-mail addr from the profiles. I've never corresponded w/ any dealer through this e-mail either. There is no can't. Only lack of knowledge or fear. Only you can fix your fear. PMS #227 (just like the TV show) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #8 May 14, 2004 Yeah, I think we all got it. I think we should all reply with a sympathy e-mail and see how she likes being spamed.Keith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #9 May 14, 2004 QuoteI worked for more than 5 years on this project and invested way over 150.000$ in it. I HATE it when I invest a hundred and fifty dollars in something and get screwed. That's like what; 8 cases of beer?"I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricaH 0 #10 May 14, 2004 Ooooohhh, I like that idea - execpt then I'm afraid of getting on some SPAM list. I tried to delet it & get this error: QuoteGET requests are not permitted for this action. What's that, a GET request? There is no can't. Only lack of knowledge or fear. Only you can fix your fear. PMS #227 (just like the TV show) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #11 May 14, 2004 I could be wrong but I do believe that it is common practice to use periods in place of comma's for numbers. I got it too at my personal e-mail that is listed on my profile. I'm wondering if it was harvested (and how) or Karel went thru each n every one.I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #12 May 14, 2004 I forgot to insert my [sarcasm] and [/sarcasm] tags..."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #13 May 14, 2004 QuoteI forgot to insert my [sarcasm] and [/sarcasm] tags... give me the 8 cases of beer and all will be forgiven I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #14 May 14, 2004 Capitalism sucks...when yours is the investment that goes into the shitter... She so sounds like a Nigerian scammer. Other than the fact that we have another poor skydiver (as if there's a shortage...)Why should we care that her business partner's idea tanked? It sucks, but life is tough all over... Sounds like she's trying to shame her former partner into responding, by pimping him out in public... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cornholio 0 #15 May 14, 2004 Doubt it's real...nice phone number tho....85 86 87 88 Butthead: Whoa! Burritos for breakfast! Beavis: Yeah! Yeah! Cool! bellyflier on the dz.com hybrid record jump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeemax 0 #16 May 14, 2004 i got the same mail, but in my personal a/c Not entirely sure what the point is, other than to damn Vigil units Does anyone know if this guy actually had anything to do with vigil?Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #17 May 15, 2004 well there IS a link on www.uspa.org You'll probly have to find the US server etc. I dont know if its an internat'l address EDIT: my guess is the report that was issued basically said that her services sucked and that they have servered relations with her company. it looks as though she's trying to give the Skydivers HER side of the story etc.....Either way I wont be buying a vigil anytime soonMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #18 May 15, 2004 The spam showed up in the inbox of the Seattle Skydivers site too. The prez forwarded it to me, thinking it was intended directly for my reading. I let the prez know about the spam buzz over here. BTW - I'm no longer the secretary or webmaster of the Seattle Skydivers site - I resigned. mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mujie96 0 #19 May 16, 2004 QuoteYeah, I think we all got it. I think we should all reply with a sympathy e-mail and see how she likes being spamed. Does telling her to quit acting like a loser whuffo sitting home with nothing better to do than spam me count as a sympathy email? Just keep swimming...just keep swimming.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
